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posted by martyb on Sunday April 26 2015, @06:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the unbridled-enthusiasm dept.

Debian 8 "Jessie" was released on 25 Apr. A link to the Debian release page shows the changes and you can follow the release in 'real-time' should you desire to do so.

This release will be supported for 5 years and includes "improvements" to the UEFI software (both 32- and 64-bit) introduced in the previous version, "Wheezy". It also is the first release to use systemd as default init system replacing the earlier sysvinit, which is still available in the repos should you wish to revert the change. What effects such a change might have on the remainder of the system is not clear. Improvements to the support of Debian software include the ability to browse and search all source code distributed in the latest release.

 
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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 27 2015, @02:47AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 27 2015, @02:47AM (#175561) Journal

    I'm a distro hopper, and I don't care very much about systemd or any other part of the OS. I don't develop, and I'm poorly equipped to evaluate a lot of what the developers offer. I just use the stuff, and make my own rough evaluations, like "This stuff works" or "This piece of crap makes a mess of everything."

    Systemd? I've not had a system come crashing down because of systemd. I've not seen any improvement because of systemd. Perhaps the system is potentially less stable because of systemd, perhaps not.

    Disclaimer: Being a distro hopper, I quite naturally have NOT attempted to upgrade a years-old installation to systemd. My experience with upgrades, is a single Jessie installation upgrading itself by way of Synaptic. It worked. But then, the movement toward systemd was already underway before this particular distro was published and installed.

    Which is technically superior, systemd, or sysvinit? I really can't tell. Both have treated me well. My major frustrations with any Linux distro, have been provided by nVidia and sound (OSS4 vs ALSA). Drivers have caused more problems for me, than all other software combined.

    The social ramifications simply haven't interested me. Is systemd promoted by the SJW's mentioned above? Possibly. I can't really care though.

    I will note that the AC who posts the most vehement protests agains systemd above is just to hateful for my taste. I strongly dislike feminists, especially the more militant feminists. But, I even more strongly dislike guys who think they are somehow superior to women. I mean - WTF? Some of these guys actually measure their manliness by how offensive they can be toward women? (Remember "upskirt"? Everything they published had references to perverse forms of voyeurism.)

    BTW - wasn't Debian forked over this? If you don't like systemd - just install the other brand.
    https://devuan.org/ [devuan.org]

    This is a big part of the reason I like Linux. It comes in many flavors. At one time, I thought Suse was the greatest things since sliced bread. (It was the first distro that "just worked" on my hardware - then they screwed the pooch by adopting Microsoft ideas and money.) Since then, I've played with nearly everything out there, including China's official offering - what was that, Red Flag Linux?

    Come on guys - if you no longer like Debian, just move on. I'm interested in Devuan - but I'm running a Debian Jessie derivative right now. Sooner or later, I'll nuke and repave my OS - I always do - and it may well be Devuan, or a BSD, or Redhat, or - well - if someone here does his own distro, I might boot to that!

    Get over yourselves guys. No single part of Linux is THAT damned important. It's the overall philosophy, the greater community that matters.

    Well - except maybe for the people who code drivers. And, can we lynch OSS4 developers for not giving us a sweet, one step method to blacklist ALSA and install OSS4? I might bring a firebrand to that party.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @02:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @02:54AM (#175563)

    Devuan hasn't done anything.

    It's unforutunate.
    It really is :(.

    Maybe you can motivate them or help them.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @04:19AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @04:19AM (#175580)

    Christ, what a retard.