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posted by martyb on Sunday April 26 2015, @06:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the unbridled-enthusiasm dept.

Debian 8 "Jessie" was released on 25 Apr. A link to the Debian release page shows the changes and you can follow the release in 'real-time' should you desire to do so.

This release will be supported for 5 years and includes "improvements" to the UEFI software (both 32- and 64-bit) introduced in the previous version, "Wheezy". It also is the first release to use systemd as default init system replacing the earlier sysvinit, which is still available in the repos should you wish to revert the change. What effects such a change might have on the remainder of the system is not clear. Improvements to the support of Debian software include the ability to browse and search all source code distributed in the latest release.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Marand on Monday April 27 2015, @03:44AM

    by Marand (1081) on Monday April 27 2015, @03:44AM (#175573) Journal

    The BSD developers are generally Generation X'ers, with some even being Baby Boomers. They aren't Millennials (aka, hipsters). That's the big difference.

    Maybe it's due to their age or the naivety they were raised with, but Millennials make some really fucking stupid decisions when it comes to software. Ruby on Rails, JavaScript, NoSQL and systemd are superb examples of this. Developers from earlier generations aren't dumb in the same way. They don't make obvious mistakes so readily.

    You might want to rethink your stance on this: Lennart Poettering, at 34, is considered "Generation X" and is responsible for systemd, PulseAudio, and Avahi (among other things). Lumping his decisions into the millennials group is an insult to the millennials.

    Bad decisions happen at all ages.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @05:44PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @05:44PM (#175779)

    No, somebody who is 34 would be a millennial, not a gen x.

    Baby boomers were born between 1945 and 1960. Gen x were born between 1960 and 1975. Millennials were born between 1975 and 1990. They're called millennials because their formative years (10 to 25) were around the turn of the millennium. Those born between 1990 and 2005 are gen z. Those born after 2005 are commonly called recessionistas, due to living most or all of their lives during a global economic downturn.

    • (Score: 2) by Marand on Tuesday April 28 2015, @02:41AM

      by Marand (1081) on Tuesday April 28 2015, @02:41AM (#175938) Journal

      No, somebody who is 34 would be a millennial, not a gen x.

      Baby boomers were born between 1945 and 1960. Gen x were born between 1960 and 1975. Millennials were born between 1975 and 1990. They're called millennials because their formative years (10 to 25) were around the turn of the millennium. Those born between 1990 and 2005 are gen z. Those born after 2005 are commonly called recessionistas, due to living most or all of their lives during a global economic downturn.

      Source for this definition of GenX? and Baby Boomer and Millennial actually...

      Wikipedia mentions multiple age ranges that have been used to define GenX and they all include the early 80s.

      In a 2012 article for the Joint Center for Housing Studies of Harvard University, George Masnick wrote that the "Census counted 82.1 million" Gen Xers in the U.S. The Harvard Center uses 1965 to 1984 to define Gen X so that Boomers, Xers and Millennials "cover equal 20-year age spans".

      Jon Miller at the Longitudinal Study of American Youth at the University of Michigan wrote that "Generation X refers to adults born between 1961 and 1981"

      In 2011 "The Generation X Report" (based on annual surveys used in the Longitudinal Study of today's adults) found Gen Xers, defined in the report as people born between 1961 and 1981

      Poettering, born in 1980, counts as GenX in every definition except yours, conveniently.

      Related: there's also some variation in Millennials, but the definitions for it mostly stick to 1981-1982ish for the beginning and ending around 2000-2004, and "baby boomer" is mentioned as being 1946 to 1964. Every label you defined has been off by 4-10 years.

      In my opinion, using your year of birth as a catch-all for negative stereotyping is lazy and ignorant. When the boomers did it to later generations it was considered ignorant, but now that genX is getting older, many are doing it to the next generation down. It's just as dumb now as it was then, even if you're using widely-accepted definitions (which you aren't even doing).

      Point is, if you can't find a better foundation for your argument that BSD development is superior than lazy stereotyping based on blaming millennials (that you can't even define properly), then there's probably something wrong with the argument itself. Not saying that you're wrong about BSD devs being superior and the tendency for dumb design decisions elsewhere, just that your reasoning is faulty and you should look for a better answer.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:49AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:49AM (#175952)

        Poettering looks like he's 12.

        He should date 12 yr old girls.