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Follow the Debian 8 "Jessie" Release Activity in Realtime

posted by martyb on Sunday April 26 2015, @06:48PM   
from the unbridled-enthusiasm dept.

Aroused For Debian 8 "Jessie" reports:

Debian 8 "Jessie" was released on 25 Apr. A link to the Debian release page shows the changes and you can follow the release in 'real-time' should you desire to do so.

This release will be supported for 5 years and includes "improvements" to the UEFI software (both 32- and 64-bit) introduced in the previous version, "Wheezy". It also is the first release to use systemd as default init system replacing the earlier sysvinit, which is still available in the repos should you wish to revert the change. What effects such a change might have on the remainder of the system is not clear. Improvements to the support of Debian software include the ability to browse and search all source code distributed in the latest release.

• Not every Devuan fan is crazy (unproven stmt) Not every Devuan fan is crazy (unproven stmt) (Score: 1) by fritsd on Monday April 27 2015, @11:06AM

  by fritsd (4586) on Monday April 27 2015, @11:06AM (#175649) Journal

  It's all very muddled due to the personalities involved.

  On the Devuan mailing list, MikeeUSA has been banned now. Twice.

  Here's my datapoint: at least one "anti-systemd" Devuan fan is more or less a feminist, not a misogynist anyway. I'll let you draw your own conclusions about my sanity from my other postings here... (oh dear).

  So, I can say truthfully that nowadays, the discussions on the Devuan mailing list are mostly technical, and that I personally believe that Devuan *will* release a systemd-less fork of Debian Jessie.

  When it's ready.

  Mailing list archive: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.devuan.devel [gmane.org]

  Advantages of Devuan, when it is released:
  (1) if your system is currently using sysvinit to boot it will stay that way
  (2) attempts to stay as flexible and universal as Debian Wheezy. Because Debian Jessie now depends on systemd, and systemd is Linux-specific due to cgroups, Debian is going to drop the option to use a different kernel: The Debian GNU/kFreeBSD option is going to go, I believe
  (3) there's a not fully developed idea in the Devuan group and groupies, that core user-space system programs should be simple, discoverable and maintainable. One person is almost finished working on a udev fork (vdev), and I had a crazy (oops.. there's that word again) idea about splitting DBus in three.

  About the Debian/kFreeBSD kernel:
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00005.html [debian.org]

  Architectures
  =============

  There remained yes/no decisions for arm64, ppc64el, and kfreebsd.

  arm64 and ppc64el have made enough progress to be release
  architectures for Jessie. Britney no longer has special handling
  for these two. Therefore, FTBFS regressions for arm64 and ppc64el
  are now release critical (but non-regressions are not).

  We discussed kfreebsd at length, but are not satisfied that a
  release with Jessie will be of sufficient quality. We are dropping
  it as an official release architecture, though we do hope that the
  porters will be able to make a simultaneous unofficial release.

  There may also be an unofficial release of kfreebsd:
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2015/04/msg00605.html [debian.org]

  PS I am not a spokesperson for Devuan and have about as much to say as MikeeUSA.

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• Re:Not every Devuan fan is crazy (unproven stmt) (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @07:56PM

  by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @07:56PM (#175840)

  I hope you're right and they release and become the new debian.
  I hope jaromil stops smoking pot and does something with his life.

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• Re:Not every Devuan fan is crazy (unproven stmt) (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @08:36PM

  by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @08:36PM (#175855)

  vdev is a new /dev daemon, not a fork of a existing one.

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