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posted by janrinok on Tuesday March 18 2014, @09:51PM   Printer-friendly
from the not-everyone-will-be-happy dept.

elias writes:

"A very public and sometimes acrimonious dispute in the Debian ecosystem about upstart versus systemd has been settled in favour of systemd. Some go as far as to brand it a new era after the Linux civil war [Beware popups].

We also had an asksoylentnews question on what the fuzz was all about. But what can upstart contribute to systemd now the war is over, or will it simply be a technology that we remember fondly, but do not see any more in a few years time?"

 
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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by wjwlsn on Tuesday March 18 2014, @10:28PM

    by wjwlsn (171) on Tuesday March 18 2014, @10:28PM (#18274) Homepage Journal

    Yeah, what's the deal? I saw the title of the summary and immediately wondered if there had been some major change since the vote in February, and then a final capitulation by Canonical. But no... this summary really is reporting month old news. I'm kind of surprised by this, as the dates included in *all* the linked urls are 3 to 6 weeks old.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by zsau on Tuesday March 18 2014, @11:35PM

    by zsau (2642) on Tuesday March 18 2014, @11:35PM (#18294)

    I hadn't heard it before. Anyway, isn't the point of this site the discussion? Perhaps with a few weeks lag that can sometimes be even better. I don't think we need to complain about repeats and olds; in fact, I'd rather like it if there were occasionally deliberate olds posted (like making a post on the demise of the floppy disk or the GPLing of Qt).

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by wjwlsn on Wednesday March 19 2014, @05:49AM

      by wjwlsn (171) on Wednesday March 19 2014, @05:49AM (#18418) Homepage Journal

      I don't mind revisiting old news either. Hell, I read net.unix-wizards in my newsreader every day, as served by http://olduse.net/ [olduse.net], which plays out Usenet in real time as it was 30 years ago. (Most interesting discussions over the past few weeks during 1984 are generally about bugs, crashes, and complaints regarding 4.2BSD... also, a small religious war about the #! operator in shell scripts).

      Anyway, the point I should have been making was about the summary, not the age of the news. I would suggest that if a summary is about something that isn't exactly current (more than a week), it should include words like "revisiting", "reconsidering", "reanalyzing", etc... and it should still bring something new to the table, like a new question, implication, discovery, side-effect. That way, the followup discussion doesn't have to rehash the same old stuff that has been beaten to death elsewhere.

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Tuesday March 18 2014, @11:49PM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Tuesday March 18 2014, @11:49PM (#18300) Homepage

    Hey, you. Yes, you, and your parent. And while we're at it, every single motherfucker who's made similar complaints -- This site is about DISCUSSIONS, the "articles" provide only a topic for discussion.

    I know those dastardly scum who named this place Soylent News should be strung up by their balls for falsely advertising that this place is about "news," but then again we are assumed to be a crowd of 3-digit IQ who can "read between the lines." No, stop that -- put that magnifying glass away -- there's literally nothing between the lines I just posted, back away from the monitor before you bump your head. What are you doing without your helmet on anyway? Don't you have a short bus to catch?

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Wednesday March 19 2014, @12:53AM

      by edIII (791) on Wednesday March 19 2014, @12:53AM (#18320)

      Thank you. I don't care that it's 30 days old.

      I don't know anything about it, and quite frankly, I wish some people around here that understood it could compare and contrast Upstart and SystemD for me and possibly tell me why it was such a big deal in the first place.

      For there to be so much emotion, especially from techies, I know the pros and cons on either side must have been huge.

      So what were they?

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    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19 2014, @01:13AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19 2014, @01:13AM (#18335)

      "SoylentNews is people... and people are OLD." :)

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by wjwlsn on Wednesday March 19 2014, @06:05AM

      by wjwlsn (171) on Wednesday March 19 2014, @06:05AM (#18423) Homepage Journal

      This site is about DISCUSSIONS, the "articles" provide only a topic for discussion.

      I know this very well. In fact, this is the crux of why I left Slashdot to come here. I even said as much over there. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4761527&cid=46 178769 [slashdot.org]

      Oh, by the way... go fuck yourself.

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    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday March 19 2014, @02:25PM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday March 19 2014, @02:25PM (#18552)

      So glad to see you can log in now, EF...

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