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posted by LaminatorX on Wednesday March 19 2014, @12:43PM   Printer-friendly
from the special-victims-unit dept.

Absinth writes:

From MSNBC, "It (the site) attempted to operate as a 'discussion-only' forum where people could share their sexual interest in young boys without committing any specific offenses, thus operating 'below the radar' of police attention. Having made contact on the site, some members would move to more private channels, such as email, to exchange and share illegal images and films of children being abused.

The statement said Europol analysts had cracked the security features of a key computer server at the center of the network which uncovered the identities of suspected child sex offenders. And, after his arrest, the forum's Dutch administrator helped police break encryption measures that shielded users' identities, allowing police to begin their covert investigations.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement( ICE ) has also issued a news release."

 
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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by CoolHand on Wednesday March 19 2014, @01:45PM

    by CoolHand (438) on Wednesday March 19 2014, @01:45PM (#18531) Journal

    I agree that the government seems to be starting a campaign of FUD against our last vestiges of freedom and privacy... What can do, though, except to ignore that and continue doing the right thing?

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Hairyfeet on Wednesday March 19 2014, @11:52PM

    by Hairyfeet (75) <reversethis-{moc ... {8691tsaebssab}> on Wednesday March 19 2014, @11:52PM (#18729) Journal

    If you "keep doing the right thing" you better not be in the USA, as I talked to a friend in the state crime lab when Tor and Freenet first made headlines and he says there is a VERY real chance that using them could get you decades in prison.

    The reason why is this...child porn distribution laws were written when distributing involved making a hard copy and actually sending it to someone and they have never been updated to reflect the Internet age. What does that have to do with Tor? Simple, if I ask you to take a box from here to the next town over but don't hand you the key to the box and the cops pull you over and find drugs and CP in the box? You are an accomplice and accessory after the fact to cp distribution since you helped to make it happen....see the problem now? You are running an exit node and a guy requests CP based on the laws of many states YOU are the distributor as much as the website, the same goes for Freenet and their cache. Doesn't matter that you can't personally get access to the cache anymore than you having the key to the box matters, you helped a crime be committed so you are going to prison.

    Here is the part that will REALLY piss you off.....its ALL FOR NOTHING. That is right, even LEOs know its a joke, a waste of time, they are destroying civil liberties for no gains at all. Know where the most CP comes from? Not the net...its USPS and Fed Ex. That is right, they trade encrypted DVDs. My friend has stacks of 'em, without the passwords they are paperweights and by using mail drops its damned near unstoppable. The ones they catch over the net are more than 90% according to my friend "socially retarded porn addicts" which if you were to lock them into a room with a child would run to the nearest corner and try to claw their way out of the room as they have as little contact with living people as humanly possible. One they busted hadn't left his house since 1994 and had to be tranqed like an animal.

    So there ya have it, use any of that software and depending on the state you could be looking at as much as 60 years. That is what happens when you make pictures and/or descriptions of a crime equal to or greater than a crime itself, you have to mangle precedent and the law so badly to do so that you give prosecutors a gap they can drive a truck through and since "suspected child pornographer" makes for great headlines and helps their political careers they have no reason not to go for it and use it whenever possible. He said he didn't know how many that his lab threw into prison for 50+ years that were so obviously mentally ill that it wasn't even funny and since the ones actually raping the kids and filming this shit are often halfway around the world nobody will pay to follow the actual crime back to its source. he is so disgusted with it he is looking for another job, he said 4 years of therapy from having to look at this shit only to know you aren't making a damned bit of difference is just too much for him.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by melikamp on Thursday March 20 2014, @01:07AM

      by melikamp (1886) on Thursday March 20 2014, @01:07AM (#18744) Journal

      child porn distribution laws were written when distributing involved making a hard copy and actually sending it to someone and they have never been updated to reflect the Internet age

      child porn distribution laws were written by sex-crazy prudes who did not believe in the freedom of expression by individuals, be it via talking, printing, or (God forbid) Internet posting. One immediate consequence of these laws is that it is not possible to have an honest and informed discussion about child abuse, or even to report the evidence of child abuse without a very real risk of a book being thrown at you. IMHO, it is far from coincidental that the same world-wide organization that spreads an idiotic and twisted moral teaching about sex is being implicated in institutionalized child abuse.

      There, fixed it for you.

      To drag the Internet into this discussion is to miss the point. If it is legal to slice people in half with chainsaws in videogames... if it is legal to share movies of people killing each other, then it should be legal to share pictures of anything. Not commercially. Not taking the pictures. Not abusing children (or anyone, for that matter). But there is absolutely no coherent argument that can be made for making it illegal to share a photo of a person, other than something related to privacy.

    • (Score: 1) by DNied on Thursday March 20 2014, @08:52AM

      by DNied (3409) on Thursday March 20 2014, @08:52AM (#18813)

      You are running an exit node and a guy requests CP based on the laws of many states YOU are the distributor as much as the website

      If you only run the TOR browser, you aren't an exit node.

      • (Score: 1) by Hairyfeet on Thursday March 20 2014, @07:12PM

        by Hairyfeet (75) <reversethis-{moc ... {8691tsaebssab}> on Thursday March 20 2014, @07:12PM (#19032) Journal

        But without exit nodes the whole system doesn't work. If what we have seen lately is true more and more of the exit nodes are being run by nasty actors like the NSA so you may as well just be sending it straight to the government and cut out the middle man.

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    • (Score: 1) by tathra on Monday March 24 2014, @01:09AM

      by tathra (3367) on Monday March 24 2014, @01:09AM (#20022)

      So does that mean we can charge the CIA/NSA/what have you with distribution of child porn?

      I know its the mantra of the DEA and all, but you can not break the law to enforce it. Breaking the law is illegal by definition.