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After my last SN post the topic of moderation was brought up. Since its been quite awhile since we last openly discussed the state of moderation, I want to give the community a venue to discuss their feelings on it, and if the system needs further refinement. As a reminder, here's a review for how the system is currently setup:
- 5 mod points are handed out to at 00:10 UTC to users with positive karma
- ACs start at +0, users with karma less than 40 post at +1, users above that can post at +2
- You need 10 karma to mark some spam or troll
- Under normal circumstances, the staff do *not* have unlimited mod points, but can (and have) banned abusers of the moderation system
Please also review our SoylentNews Moderation Guidelines.
As always, we are willing to make changes to the system, but please post examples *with* links to any cases of suspected mod abuse. It's a lot easier to justify changing the system when evidence is in black and white. I also recommend that users make serious proposals on changes we can make. I'm not going to color the discussion with my own opinions, but as always, I will respond inline with comments when this goes live, and post a follow up article a few days after this one
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(Score: 5, Interesting) by hubie on Wednesday May 20 2015, @12:38PM
I think this is pretty important. If you're not browsing at -1 to see all comments, then I don't think your moderation drop-down boxes should be visible. You can't correct abusive mods if you don't see them, and you can't promote good AC comments if you don't see them. You otherwise introduce selection bias whereby only comments that break a certain mod threshold get promoted. I think this elevates "popular" opinions quickly and leads to groupthink.
I'm not a web programmer nor do I have insight into how Slashcode works so I don't know how feasible this is, but for the lazy maybe have a "I want to moderate" button you hit that sets a default browse condition (e.g., -1, nested, oldest first), and a "I'm done moderating" button to set it back to their default values.
(Score: 3, Touché) by tangomargarine on Wednesday May 20 2015, @04:39PM
I see your forced threshhold browsing and raise you a custom GreaseMonkey filter.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 20 2015, @05:20PM
A counterexample is when something is incorectly positively modded informative when it is actually wrong. In that case, you don't have to see every comment in the thread to moderate the comment fairly.
(Score: 2) by hubie on Wednesday May 20 2015, @06:58PM
I don't see that as much of a counter-example as it doesn't do anything to help you see -1 comments.