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After my last SN post the topic of moderation was brought up. Since its been quite awhile since we last openly discussed the state of moderation, I want to give the community a venue to discuss their feelings on it, and if the system needs further refinement. As a reminder, here's a review for how the system is currently setup:
- 5 mod points are handed out to at 00:10 UTC to users with positive karma
- ACs start at +0, users with karma less than 40 post at +1, users above that can post at +2
- You need 10 karma to mark some spam or troll
- Under normal circumstances, the staff do *not* have unlimited mod points, but can (and have) banned abusers of the moderation system
Please also review our SoylentNews Moderation Guidelines.
As always, we are willing to make changes to the system, but please post examples *with* links to any cases of suspected mod abuse. It's a lot easier to justify changing the system when evidence is in black and white. I also recommend that users make serious proposals on changes we can make. I'm not going to color the discussion with my own opinions, but as always, I will respond inline with comments when this goes live, and post a follow up article a few days after this one
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by kbahey on Wednesday May 20 2015, @01:52PM
I said this before, and I will repeat it again.
This is not to belittle the efforts that have been made so far. The site is awesome. It fixed long standing issues that Slashdot has been suffering from for over 15 years. Think unicode or having the summary display when clicking a link to a single comment.
But, I feel that sometimes there is an urge to change things just because we can, without it being a pressing need or an urgent problem to be fixed.
If it works don't fix it. The site works. Leave the code alone. Think of ways to increase readership, most importantly by recruiting new readers and contributors, rather than changing the code.
2bits.com, Inc: Drupal, WordPress, and LAMP performance tuning [2bits.com].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 20 2015, @03:16PM
As far as I understand, this thread is basically because there were a few posters who complained in their comments that the moderation system were broken (IMHO they were wrong). So this one does not appear to be about change for the sake of change.
Anyway, there's no harm is discussing it. It's certainly better then either acting without asking whether action is welcome (aka Beta), but it is also better than just assuming everyone is OK with the current situation (because, well, how do you know if you don't ask?)
(Score: 2, Insightful) by mechanicjay on Wednesday May 20 2015, @03:24PM
You make a fair point, however, constantly examining what we do to see if it's meeting the needs of the community and looking for things we can do better is how we can keep the site relevant and growing. Stagnation leads to death.
My VMS box beat up your Windows box.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by kbahey on Wednesday May 20 2015, @03:28PM
I hear ya.
While stagnation and stability are close, they not the same.
Stability in the technology underlining the site is a good thing. Too many changes too quickly is not good.
I'd rather that the efforts be focused on attracting more users for more comments and more moderation.
2bits.com, Inc: Drupal, WordPress, and LAMP performance tuning [2bits.com].
(Score: 2) by NCommander on Thursday May 21 2015, @11:23AM
There are no plans to overhaul moderation. The thread feedback has convienced me the system is largely fine as is. But we (the staff) sometimes just need to flat out ask what the community feels. At our largest, I think we're about 10-15 people active at any given time. We need to check on occasion that we're still in touch with reality and the community. I've (famously) managed to bug crap up by misreading intent, and while I took steps to correct that, it could have been avoided in the first place.
Still always moving
(Score: 2) by kbahey on Wednesday May 27 2015, @02:36AM
Thanks for the reply, and thanks for noting the feedback from the community.
2bits.com, Inc: Drupal, WordPress, and LAMP performance tuning [2bits.com].