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After my last SN post the topic of moderation was brought up. Since its been quite awhile since we last openly discussed the state of moderation, I want to give the community a venue to discuss their feelings on it, and if the system needs further refinement. As a reminder, here's a review for how the system is currently setup:
- 5 mod points are handed out to at 00:10 UTC to users with positive karma
- ACs start at +0, users with karma less than 40 post at +1, users above that can post at +2
- You need 10 karma to mark some spam or troll
- Under normal circumstances, the staff do *not* have unlimited mod points, but can (and have) banned abusers of the moderation system
Please also review our SoylentNews Moderation Guidelines.
As always, we are willing to make changes to the system, but please post examples *with* links to any cases of suspected mod abuse. It's a lot easier to justify changing the system when evidence is in black and white. I also recommend that users make serious proposals on changes we can make. I'm not going to color the discussion with my own opinions, but as always, I will respond inline with comments when this goes live, and post a follow up article a few days after this one
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Thursday May 21 2015, @07:13PM
it costs the modbomber nothing and in fact will embolden them when they see they can do it for as long as they want with ZERO penalty for themselves. this means also that the law of averages is on the modbombers side as the odds that the admins will catch every time he modbombs? VERY low, unless they are literally babysitting the accounts of those being modbombed.
Agreed.
Modbombing comes in two forms. Positive modbombing and Negative modboming.
One brings more attention to an article. The other serves only to silence unpopular (non-group-think) opinions.
This is why I've pushed for a negative mod to cost MORE karma. (I suggested 5 karma, but that's just me). The idea is to limit the damage-hammer that we let mod-bombers inflict, by whacking them with enough negative karma till they can't mod at all. If all of one's mod-army accounts acquire negative karma it would shut them down fairly effectively.
I would like to see all the mods in the mod summary.
I would like to seesaw modding (in excess of some number of valence changes - like two mod-armies dukeing it out) be flagged on the purple header line with the word "Modbombed".
At least that way we could all see what is happening.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Friday May 22 2015, @01:09AM
I would 100% support your idea IF they would put some sort of limit on IP address or some sort of ID system, because otherwise? See "mickey(insert ever increasing number)" at Slashdot who just cranks out accounts so he can modbomb.
Hell for awhile there on Slash there was even a modbomber that had made "knock offs" of all the posters he didn't like, there was "Mcgriew", "Hairytoes", you get the idea. Using this method not only could he farm mod points for modbombing but for extra damage he'd post a ton of racist foul shit under these knock off names in the hopes that people would mistake them for the real person and start modding them down thinking they were racist trolls.
I'm NOT bringing this up because I give a rat's ass about my karma or even this account, I've got enough places I frequent that one either way makes no difference and I ain't changing my views for NOBODY, Mr Modbomber can kiss my hairy southern ass for all I care. But the way this place was sold to me was "A return to the old Slash, heavy on tech, light on politics and groupthinking" and if that is the case? Then this kind of shit really needs to be nipped in the bud, otherwise you end up with something like The Escapist where everyone interesting has walked away because of all the modbombing and all you have left is an echo chamber that just parrots whatever the admin who does the modbombing (because in that case it IS an admin, in fact he brags about his bias regularly) so its about as interesting as reading some douchebag's manifesto on Eastern Socialism and its affect on modern feminism.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday May 22 2015, @01:09AM
frojack, don't you see all the mods in the summary? I do. Are you and Hairy on some kind of restriction?
(Oh, that whole down-modding as censorship, I don't think we have seen any evidence of that in this entire thread. Nothing actually gets hidden here, so I have to repeat myself and say I don't see the problem. )