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posted by LaminatorX on Thursday March 20 2014, @01:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the ilibc-ulibc-we-all-C-for-libc dept.

dalias writes

"The musl libc project has released version 1.0, the result of three years of development and testing. Musl is a lightweight, fast, simple, MIT-licensed, correctness-oriented alternative to the GNU C library (glibc), uClibc, or Android's Bionic. At this point musl provides all mandatory C99 and POSIX interfaces (plus a lot of widely-used extensions), and well over 5000 packages are known to build successfully against musl.

Several options are available for trying musl. Compiler toolchains are available from the musl-cross project, and several new musl-based Linux distributions are already available (Sabotage and Snowflake, among others). Some well-established distributions including OpenWRT and Gentoo are in the process of adding musl-based variants, and others (Aboriginal, Alpine, Bedrock, Dragora) are adopting musl as their default libc."

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  • (Score: 1) by ArghBlarg on Thursday March 20 2014, @06:26PM

    by ArghBlarg (1449) on Thursday March 20 2014, @06:26PM (#19002)

    It may not make code more resistant to attack (ie., intentional overflows), but it would help prevent accidental overflows (ie., programmer error).

    And if you're concerned about 16-vs 32-bit lengths, standardize on one then. Memory's cheap.

    I know I'd like to never have to think about terminating strings again.. it's a stupidly menial task and no matter how careful people try to be, someone somewhere forgets a memset() or a fixup on an snprintf() or strncat() somewhere... and before anyone says "so write a wrapper once that does it right and forget about it".. easy to say for you own code, but you probably use lots of other people's code and if it's third-party libs you do NOT want to go through all of that when the changes won't get pushed upstream.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 21 2014, @03:58PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 21 2014, @03:58PM (#19351)

    but it would help prevent accidental overflows

    How? That would *only* work if you made sure to use the libraries for everything. If you are doing that who cares how it is terminated. And then I could just overflow anyway by a stupid cast somewhere (which are trivial to do and usually done at function boundaries), and that is just 1 example. Stupidity is not created from the language. It comes from poor knowledge and bad mistakes.

    Memory's cheap.
    Yes, if you are building 1 of something it is. If you are building 20k of something not so much.

    You are fighting for something that does not exist for C. There is basically no standard 'p-string' type in C. C is a 'buffer' orientated language. I can turn a int64 into a buffer with 1 cast. char * is no different. You can do pstring things in other languages as it is 'built in'.

    The language does not do it. Libraries can help you do it though. The C language is fairly simple. It has no concept of 'printf'. The library that goes along with it? Thats a beast.

    Feel free though to create a 'pstring' crt. I am sure many would use it.