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posted by LaminatorX on Friday March 21 2014, @02:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the keeping-designers-busy dept.

kef writes:

"The new Australis interface has finally landed in beta. Is this really a step forward or has the Mozilla user designers lost their mind once again? Sure, if you are ok with the default user interface and don't tweak it to suit your needs then the new UI is not too different from previous releases. But if you, like me, like to change the interface to suit your needs, then the new Australis UI will probably not rock your world, it certainly doesn't rock mine. I can no long get the stop/reload button out of the url bar, the forward/back buttons are locked next to the url bar and so on. Beta Sucks, anyone?"

 
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by michealpwalls on Friday March 21 2014, @02:56PM

    by michealpwalls (3920) on Friday March 21 2014, @02:56PM (#19332) Homepage Journal

    What a wasted effort, unless it either decreases the memory footprint of Firefox or address the hardware-acceleration issues associated with the old UI.

    The current UI is very customizable.. Simply right-click on a control, select customize and start dragging things you don't like off and moving things into places you want them. It's a no-brainer.. Re-writing this UI is a massive waste of time, when there are 5 year old bugs in Gecko [mozilla.org] that IE, WebKit(Chrome/Safari) and even Opera's Presto engine have all worked out at this point.

    I think their focus is completely misguided..FirefoxOS and etc. Unless their goal is to let Gecko fall into irrelevancy and simply adopt WebKit (Opera has done this, switching away from their Presto engine)

    All I see when I crawl BugZilla is old, show-stopping bugs simply being re-organized, re-filed and continuously ignored... Mozilla Foundation is doing more good for Google/Chrome than they are Firefox, to be frank. That's weird!

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Zyx Abacab on Friday March 21 2014, @03:32PM

    by Zyx Abacab (3701) on Friday March 21 2014, @03:32PM (#19345)

    I can't be the only one who wants a consistent user experience between applications. I don't just use the browser all day, and it's very annoying to use several vastly-different looking programs at once.

    It's possible, although difficult for the uninitiated, to make GTK and QT play nice together; but, if Firefox forces this custom UI upon us, I'll have to deal with yet another non-native-looking interface in my workspace. At least that Aurora interface abomination has the option to be disabled.

    I agree with you: this is a waste of effort that is sorely needed elsewhere.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by zafiro17 on Friday March 21 2014, @04:01PM

    by zafiro17 (234) on Friday March 21 2014, @04:01PM (#19353) Homepage

    I'd say it's safe to assume the mozilla team is so deeply ensconced in "Bike Shed Mode" [1] these days that can't even see the sunlight. Maybe they no longer have developers who can fix - or want to fix - the big issues. But it's fun to wank about with endless iterations of UI stuff. UI changes are like opinions - everybody has one and nobody's is fully, indisputably right.

    I barely run Firefox anymore, and this is one reason why. I got sick of my extensions breaking, of having to deal with "your X.Y.00.2.2222 versioned theme won't work with X.Y.00.22.2223" stuff, and of endless wankerism. I still run Opera - and they've got issues too, believe me - because I don't trust Chrome. But crap, it's no fun using web browsers anymore.

    Firefox - you're spending too much time and all your money dealing with issues no one cares about. And you are totally avoiding issues people do care about. Sound like anybody you know? Sounds to me like Microsoft in the '00s. And look at how it worked out for them.

    [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson's_law_of_tr iviality [wikipedia.org]

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Bill, Shooter Of Bul on Saturday March 22 2014, @12:36AM

      by Bill, Shooter Of Bul (3170) on Saturday March 22 2014, @12:36AM (#19548)

      Exactly this. I can't get any Mozilla dev to see the light. I don't know what will become of them. The best response I got to the question about Firefox OS, was $$$. Mozilla wants another revenue stream besides google. They think firefox os will do that....