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posted by janrinok on Monday June 15 2015, @08:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the he-said,-she-said dept.

Reuters reports that according to the Sunday Times Britain has pulled out agents from live operations in "hostile countries" after Russia and China cracked top-secret information contained in files leaked by former US. National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden. According to Rupert Murdoch's Sunday Times unnamed officials at the office of British Prime Minister David Cameron say China has also cracked the encrypted documents, which contain details of secret intelligence techniques and information that could allow British and American spies to be identified "Western intelligence agencies say they have been forced into the rescue operations after Moscow gained access to more than 1m classified files (paywalled) held by the former American security contractor, who fled to seek protection from Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, after mounting one of the largest leaks in US history."

However David Davis, the Conservative MP who is one of the leading campaigners for privacy, says: "We have to treat all of these things with a pinch of salt." Davis says the use of an anonymous source to create scare stories was a typical tactic and the timing was comfortable for the government. "You can see they have been made nervous by Anderson. We have not been given any facts, just assertions." Andrew Mitchell, a former cabinet minister, says he is sure the Sunday Times got the story because of the Anderson report and added "I think we have to be very careful of the argument 'listen sonny, we know what you don't know and therefore you should do what we say'. That is not a good argument; we need to have a proper debate about all of this. I don't approve of what Snowden did, but I have to say having been to Washington recently that there has been a massive change of view in the United States, not just people like Rand Paul and so on, there's a massive change of view about the debate and that has resulted from Snowden, whether you like it or not."

[Editor's Comment: There is media interest in the UK regarding this story. It originated from an unnamed source and is without any corroboration.]


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Yog-Yogguth on Tuesday June 16 2015, @12:46AM

    by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 16 2015, @12:46AM (#196685) Journal

    No it's great, the actual news is that all the governments in all the nations involved and in particular the USA, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Denmark, France, the Netherlands, Norway, Germany, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Sweden, Singapore, Japan, and South Korea and their agencies are yet again loudly insisting on proclaiming themselves to be total liars and completely untrustworthy. I hope they continue to do this kind of propaganda on a regular basis (as they have so far) so that even more people can realize that those countries and as many as over 60 other cooperating countries (include the rest of Europe, all of the Middle East, and Africa) have been committing crimes against humanity [wikipedia.org] on a continual basis for over a decade.

    That's not hyperbole, if the global surveillance and manipulation system which is in direct breach of fundamental human rights as defined by the UN isn't a crime against humanity then nothing is.
     

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:25AM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @04:25AM (#196735) Journal

    I hope they continue to do this kind of propaganda on a regular basis

    My favorite by far so far is the creepy PR piece Keith Alexander, then head of the NSA, did after the Snowden files broke. It really told you in your gut all you needed to know about the story and who the lying sacks of shit are. The piece was so creepy, and its execution so ham-fisted and stupid, that throughout the same phrase ran on a loop in my head: "Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining."

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