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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday August 12 2015, @04:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the prosecutors-want-access-to-everything dept.

The New York Times features a joint (and very one sided) opinion piece by prosecutors from Manhattan, Paris, London and Spain, in which they decry the default use by Apple and Google of full disk encryption in their latest smartphone OSes. They talk about the murder scene of a father of six, where an iPhone 6 and a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge were found.

An Illinois state judge issued a warrant ordering Apple and Google to unlock the phones and share with authorities any data therein that could potentially solve the murder. Apple and Google replied, in essence, that they could not — because they did not know the user's passcode. The homicide remains unsolved. The killer remains at large.

Except, there is no proof that having such a backdoor would conclusively allow them to solve the case and wouldn't require actual police work.


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday August 12 2015, @04:53AM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Wednesday August 12 2015, @04:53AM (#221564) Homepage

    " They talk about the murder scene of a father of six, where an iPhone 6 and a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge were found.

    Why would a killer toss his phone in the crime scene? The answer is that nobody did and only thugs and dope dealers carry more than one phone.

    " The homicide remains unsolved. The killer remains at large. "

    In Chicago. Since when did anybody give a fuck about a murder in Chicago?

    So not only are they trying to ban (end-to-end)encryption, but they're trying to ride the coattails of #Blacklivesmatter and so disagreeing with the prosecutors would be racist.

    Those desperate prosecutors are really scraping the bottom of the barrel here in trying to bait the Blacks into being anti-encryption. Couldn't they at least make up some bullshit about some high-powered mafia boss or terrorists or somethin'?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 12 2015, @04:59AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 12 2015, @04:59AM (#221566)

    Why would a killer toss his phone in the crime scene?

    I haven't read beyond the summary, but I inferred the encrypted phones belonged to the victim, and knowledge of the passcodes died with him.

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 12 2015, @05:39AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 12 2015, @05:39AM (#221583)

    >In Chicago

    It was a nigger.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 12 2015, @05:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 12 2015, @05:54AM (#221587)

    Evanston is not in Chicago, it's a suburb, and the article is wrong as well, as Evanston is on the northern border of the city, not 10 miles north of the city. Chicago is bigger than the article says it is and yet smaller than you want it to be. Good work. You're all geographically ignorant.

    • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:05AM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:05AM (#221588) Homepage

      Somebody once used "its" instead of "it's" on an online forum somewhere. Nobody believed that motherfucker because he was too stupid to know English.

    • (Score: 2) by Daiv on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:20PM

      by Daiv (3940) on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:20PM (#221803)

      Yeah, well Michigan isn't Detroit, but that doesn't stop people from that mistake either.

      Ignore the little flaws, see the message.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday August 12 2015, @11:57PM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Wednesday August 12 2015, @11:57PM (#222007) Homepage
      It sounds like you are unable to distinguish "X" from "X metropolitan area". "X metropolitan area" is often way bigger than X, and includes towns and cities which are not X. In the US, it may even include towns and cities which aren't even in the same state as X. In Europe and the US there are even examples of metropolitan areas which span national boundaries.
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  • (Score: 1, Redundant) by wonkey_monkey on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:43AM

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:43AM (#221597) Homepage

    Why would a killer toss his phone in the crime scene?

    Ah, thank you Sherlock Holmes. Obviously the phone couldn't possibly hold any other clues. Oh, and don't bother dusting for fingerprints, the killer won't have left any so any others will be useless.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 12 2015, @08:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 12 2015, @08:33PM (#221900)

      So they need encryption backdoors to dust fingerprints?

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by brocksampson on Wednesday August 12 2015, @10:30AM

    by brocksampson (1810) on Wednesday August 12 2015, @10:30AM (#221643)

    How do you know when you are making a baseless argument? When you use scary-sounding numbers instead of statistics followed by the implication of a hyperbolic tragedy. They managed to do both in the same paragraph; 74 iPhones!!! That sounds like a big number!!! And THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! Oh, why won't someone think of the children!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 13 2015, @03:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 13 2015, @03:43PM (#222355)

    Why would a killer toss his phone in the crime scene?

    Maybe the killer was also a thief and those phones were stolen... thus useless to solving the case.