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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday August 18 2015, @06:23AM   Printer-friendly
from the skynet-is-beginning dept.

Opposition to the creation of autonomous robot weapons have been the subject of discussion here recently. The New York Times has added another voice to the chorus with this article:

The specter of autonomous weapons may evoke images of killer robots, but most applications are likely to be decidedly more pedestrian. Indeed, while there are certainly risks involved, the potential benefits of artificial intelligence on the battlefield — to soldiers, civilians and global stability — are also significant.

The authors of the letter liken A.I.-based weapons to chemical and biological munitions, space-based nuclear missiles and blinding lasers. But this comparison doesn't stand up under scrutiny. However high-tech those systems are in design, in their application they are "dumb" — and, particularly in the case of chemical and biological weapons, impossible to control once deployed.

A.I.-based weapons, in contrast, offer the possibility of selectively sparing the lives of noncombatants, limiting their use to precise geographical boundaries or times, or ceasing operation upon command (or the lack of a command to continue).

Personally, I dislike the idea of using AI in weapons to make targeting decisions. I would hate to have to argue with a smart bomb to try to convince it that it should not carry out what it thinks is is mission because of an error.


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  • (Score: 2) by davester666 on Tuesday August 18 2015, @08:42AM

    by davester666 (155) on Tuesday August 18 2015, @08:42AM (#224311)

    There is a new generation of automated weapons in use: automated [as in, not directly human controlled] machine guns on the North/South Korean border [on the South side].

    And given that there is no effective way to tell at any distance the difference between a 'combatant' and a 'noncombatant', I guess by 'possibility' they mean, "we might not kill everyone in sight".

    And given that there are a significant number of wealthy sociopaths involved in running countries, independent military contractor organizations, and weapons creation, besides the sociopaths in virtually all military's, there is approximately zero chance that, if the first A.I. isn't directly created by one of them, it will be stolen/given to them to immediately incorporation in as many weapons systems as possible ASAP.

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  • (Score: 1) by Francis on Tuesday August 18 2015, @01:56PM

    by Francis (5544) on Tuesday August 18 2015, @01:56PM (#224409)

    Pretty much. And just look at the mess that mines did, those are still killing and maiming people every year even though they've been banned by most countries.

    An automated gun that's mounted is a bit better, as in you know where they are, but allowing them to move about and make their own decisions isn't something that a decent person would be OK with. The applications that it's designed for are mostly things we shouldn't be encouraging in the first place. It's a way of rich countries being able to get away with things that poor countries can't afford to get away with. There will be an increase in lives lost, but because they're lives on the other side, that's OK, because they clearly don't deserve to live.

    We should be moving into an era where fewer people are dieing in these small dick contests, but we keep creating bigger and better ways of blowing each other up without considering why. We wouldn't have ever needed a lot of this crap if people hadn't created the previous generation. Muskets would have done just fine if nobody had bothered to invent shells.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2015, @02:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2015, @02:49PM (#225011)
      Poor little naive nerdling. How little you understand of human nature.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2015, @06:52PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2015, @06:52PM (#225122)

      We wouldn't have ever needed a lot of this crap if people hadn't created the previous generation.

      Yes, none of us would be here.