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posted by cmn32480 on Monday August 24 2015, @02:41AM   Printer-friendly
from the white-males-have-enough-awards dept.

So, last night the SJW types over at the Hugo awards decided they'd rather burn the whole thing to the ground than give out an award based on what the readers like instead of social justice reasons:

The members of the World Science Fiction Society rejected the slate of finalists in five categories, giving No Award in Best Novella, Short Story, Related Work, Editor Short Form, and Editor Long Form. This equals the total number of times that WSFS members have presented No Award in the entire history of the Hugo Awards, most recently in 1977.

Here are a few of the people on the #SadPuppies slate that should be quite surprised to learn that they were denied a chance at an award for being white males when they wake up this morning: Rajnar Vajra, Larry Correia, Annie Bellet, Kary English, Toni Weisskopf, Ann Sowards, Megan Gray, Sheila Gilbert, Jennifer Brozek, Cedar Sanderson, and Amanda Green.

takyon: Here are in-depth explanations of the Hugo Awards controversy.

Previously: "Rightwing lobby has 'broken' Hugo awards" Says George R.R. Martin (240 comments)


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 24 2015, @03:20AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 24 2015, @03:20AM (#226806) Homepage Journal

    If they want space opera awards, let them set up space opera awards. If they want drama, let them award top drama writer awards.

    All of my life, I've been reading science fiction. There have been times when I was surprised that a writer was female, or Latino, or whatever. More than fifty years ago, at least one author wrote about gay heros who rejected the girl for each other - and he remained a leader in the science fiction field. (Heinlein, if you didn't know.) Science Fiction writers have been writing about PEOPLE for as long as science fiction has existed. But, the story always revolves around science, or it's not science fiction.

    We've had similar discussions here, and on /. in the past.

    I'm pretty open minded, but if it has no science in it, then it's not science fiction. People who want to write, people who want to read "something else" can just run along and organize their own award system. They aren't welcome in my universe.

    Or, stated another way - if you want gay marriage, you can have gay marriage. Just don't expect me to have any thing to do with your gay marriage. I won't say "fuck the SJW's" because they'd like it to much. Let them run along and fuck each other though.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @03:38AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @03:38AM (#226814)

    > I'm pretty open minded,

    And the award for the most humorous post of the weekend goes to Runaway!

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 24 2015, @04:09AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 24 2015, @04:09AM (#226831) Homepage Journal

      And, your post indicates that you don't understand the Runaway. You've drawn conclusions about me that are unwarranted, simply because I disagree with your own political leanings.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @04:38AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @04:38AM (#226849)

        > And, your post indicates that you don't understand the Runaway. You've drawn conclusions about me that are unwarranted,

        I know what you write here.

        If your writing has not been an accurate representation of who you are, then you are encouraged to stop lying to us.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by aristarchus on Monday August 24 2015, @04:56AM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Monday August 24 2015, @04:56AM (#226859) Journal

          And, your post indicates that you don't understand the Runaway

          Thus we are faced with a conundrum! Either the Runaway does not understand hisself, (entirely possible, from his postings here), or everyone else who sees the irony does not actually understand the Runaway. I, reluctantly, am going for the first position. Sorry, Runaway! But cognitive dissonance has its price. We cannot both defend Republicans and at the same time claim not to be one. Which side are you on? GW Bush want's to know, you know.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @05:19AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @05:19AM (#226870)

            > We cannot both defend Republicans and at the same time claim not to be one

            You are either with us or against us!

            • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday August 24 2015, @05:42AM

              by aristarchus (2645) on Monday August 24 2015, @05:42AM (#226885) Journal

              No I am not! Or maybe both! Why does American politics have to be so complicated? Things are simpler in Greece, even ancient Greece.

          • (Score: 2, Touché) by Marco2G on Monday August 24 2015, @07:19AM

            by Marco2G (5749) on Monday August 24 2015, @07:19AM (#226905)

            Dude, of course one can defend something one's not a part of. The fuck is wrong with you? That kind of thinking is pretty scarily similar to people burning the guy who told them to calm down and think alongside the witch. I expect (and hope) you didn't quite mean it like that, but such lines scare the crap out of me...

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 24 2015, @05:03AM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 24 2015, @05:03AM (#226861) Homepage Journal

          So, go back and read it all again. It has obviously gone over your head the first time.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @05:21AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @05:21AM (#226873)

            Ah, denial is so, so comforting. Like a warm, fuzzy blanket you can snuggle in.

            You know — crazy people never think they are crazy, its always everybody else that is off-base.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @08:06AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @08:06AM (#226916)

              You know it so well!

            • (Score: 2) by tibman on Monday August 24 2015, @02:37PM

              by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 24 2015, @02:37PM (#227032)

              Nah, denial burns like hot brass down the shirt. You can pretend it's not there and push through it but wow does it hurt.

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  • (Score: 2) by NoMaster on Monday August 24 2015, @07:51AM

    by NoMaster (3543) on Monday August 24 2015, @07:51AM (#226914)

    I'm pretty open minded, but if it has no science in it, then it's not science fiction.

    As it should be.

    Of course, that argument starts to fall apart a bit when you realise the one of folks worried about the standing of "hard SF" nominated a collection of their own tweets for a Hugo...

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @08:32AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @08:32AM (#226924)

      > one of folks worried about the standing of "hard SF" nominated a collection of their own tweets for a Hugo...

      Come on, you gotta give us more than that. Do you know how useless it is to google for the word "tweets?"
      No chance in hell of figuring out who or what you are talking about.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @08:52AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @08:52AM (#226933)

      Why does person A doing something dumb and self serving in relation to a medium invalidate the definition of the medium supplied by person B?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @08:10AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 24 2015, @08:10AM (#226917)

    Your post was almost making a decent claim about your level headed and open minded position. However you dropped it at the end, some topics you don't want to be involved with.

    Your point would have succeeded if you'd said something like: "if they want gay marriage they can have gay marriage, but there better be some interesting science stuff too!" (Even though there are no particular rules...). But no, you said keep that stuff away from me. I think the whole reaction of the puppies is probably more to do with personal discomfort regarding a new cultural trend.

    Its not a conspiracy when the whole process is voted on by invested people (members), just a trend in what people think makes a good story worth awarding. Also, the puppies created the whole scenario by gaming the system (no one likes a cheater), so don't blame the lack if awards on anyone else.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 24 2015, @08:21AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 24 2015, @08:21AM (#226921) Homepage Journal

      Uhhhh - wait a second. The SJW's WEREN'T trying to game the system? That is what the whole story is about. Two conflicting points of view, each trying to influence the outcome of the awards - and ultimately, the voters voted "none of the above".

      We really need a similar vote in American politics.

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