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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday September 03 2015, @05:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the not-something-to-joke-about dept.

One of the sisters who has been sentenced to be repeatedly raped because her brother eloped with a woman from a higher caste has said she cannot return home because she fears village elders will want to take revenge on her.

An illegal jury, composed of male upper caste Baghpat village elders, reportedly ordered the gang rape of Meenakshi Kumari, 23, and her 15-year-old sister after their brother Ravi eloped with a married woman, known only as Krishna, from a higher caste.

Ms Kumari, fearing for their lives, petitioned India's Supreme Court for protection. The case brought international attention after an Amnesty International petition to save the two girls from the punishment garnered more than 200,000 signatures.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @05:30AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @05:30AM (#231583)

    Terribly misogynistic shit happens in third-world villages all the damn time.
    But what actual insight can anyone here possibly have about it?

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  • (Score: 2, Touché) by chrysosphinx on Thursday September 03 2015, @05:55AM

    by chrysosphinx (5262) on Thursday September 03 2015, @05:55AM (#231588)

    Terrible shit happens all over the globe by the upper caste all the damn time. That's my actual insight.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:11AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:11AM (#231593)

      > Terrible shit happens all over the globe by the upper caste all the damn time. That's my actual insight.

      Well gee, that is so generic as to be basically meaningless. But if you say its an insight then it must be insightful to you.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:11PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:11PM (#231884) Journal

        I find it interesting because I thought the caste system had been banned in India. That this made it to the Indian Supreme Court demonstrates how prevalent it still is.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:04PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:04PM (#231899)

          > I find it interesting because I thought the caste system had been banned in India.

          It has been banned exactly as much as racism has been banned in the US.

          In fact, just like there are whiny "oppressed white males" in the US, there are whiny "oppressed upper castes" in India. [time.com]

          PS, just because its interesting doesn't mean anyone here has anything insightful to say about it.

          • (Score: 2) by edIII on Thursday September 03 2015, @09:16PM

            by edIII (791) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 03 2015, @09:16PM (#231973)

            Yeah..... white males have absolutely nothing to complain about. We can't right?

            The moment we do, it's automatically disingenuous to any conversation possible, simply because we are white males. It's technically impossible to oppress any white male in existence.

            Cuz we own everything or something right?

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    • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 03 2015, @02:04PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 03 2015, @02:04PM (#231742) Homepage Journal

      So - it is your position that lowere castes don't do terrible things? Surely not! Lemme change continents for this one - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/1362134/South-African-men-rape-babies-as-cure-for-Aids.html [telegraph.co.uk] These men certainly aren't "upper caste".

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      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:08PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:08PM (#231883) Journal

        ...South-African-men-rape-babies-as-cure-for-Aids.html These men certainly aren't "upper caste".
         
        There is no caste system in South Africa.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:27PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:27PM (#231888)

          There is no caste system in South Africa.

          Well, technically true, in that apartheid is now officially ended. But then, I'm pretty sure that there are many black South Africans who will vehemently disagree with you.

          Also, what the hell is up with the double-f abomination thingy?!? It's like a cancer taking over the whole damn intertubes!!!

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 04 2015, @12:31AM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 04 2015, @12:31AM (#232052) Homepage Journal

          There are class or caste systems throughout the world. Think about that for a bit. Right here in the US, where caste systems are blatantly illegal, we have multiple classes of people. If you don't believe that, just leave your comfort zone, and go out to visit a few people. A poor black person in the inner city knows that his class is pretty much beneath the notice of some rich bitch like a Chelsea Clinton.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 04 2015, @03:57PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 04 2015, @03:57PM (#232300)

        >> These men certainly aren't "upper caste".

        Or even real. I live in South Africa. This is not a real thing. It does not happen. It is racist propaganda.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @05:56AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @05:56AM (#231589)

    Perhaps that some of the folks who post here are so full of themselves and their "white male oppression" fantasies that they will post:
    a) support for the statements of those who say the women made it up.
    b) derogitory statements about the women, for lulz
    c) bullshit posts including the term "SJW" written in a voice that makes one imagine spittle flying in all directions when reading.
    d-z... equally fucked up statements.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:21AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:21AM (#231597)

      While the next two posts proved your ability to prognosticate, I don't think baiting the same tired old misogyny is insightful. At best it is just something for the zugnub and f-fueled types to use for public masturbation - makes them feel good about themselves while the rest of us who have to see it are, once again, icked out.

  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by zugedneb on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:02AM

    by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:02AM (#231591)

    Since we live in the world of woman, some things can not be said.
    But I will say them anyways: I wonder how it feels to torture a man to death.
    I want to do all the shit. Poking out the eyes, needles in the testicles, pulling out the teeth, burning of the fingers...
    And, lo and behold, these male villagers have no human value in my eyes...
    You know, we could do it...

    But u see, only the evil can have some fun...
    Isis can rape and murder who they want... Especially young woman...
    Village elders can rape and torture who they want... Especially young woman...

    The little white me, have to own up, slap some style on me, and consume jewish products to get some frustrated and boring white pussy...

    There are so many insights in any given situation...

    --
    old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by davester666 on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:01AM

      by davester666 (155) on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:01AM (#231607)

      The idea that doing any of these things would be "fun" and "I want to do all the shit" puts you right beside all those people, not against them.

      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by zugedneb on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:13AM

        by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:13AM (#231615)

        choose your friends, choose your enemies

        --
        old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:31PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:31PM (#231890)

          choose your friends, choose your enemies

          Oh, I've made my choice already, little man. You may want to make yourself scarce for the next little while. At least until I forget again who you are. Just sayin'.

          • (Score: 2) by zugedneb on Thursday September 03 2015, @08:23PM

            by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday September 03 2015, @08:23PM (#231942)

            you are a strange kind.
            sometimes talk to people like you.
            conversations go like this.
            me: you know isis executes woman for not having sex with them?
            you: yeah...

            what I say then: I would like to torture them to death...
            what you hear: "I would like to torture a nice, ethnic human being to death..."

            If you call me little, you have no idea who your enemies or friends are.

            you make me sad

            --
            old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @11:04PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @11:04PM (#232024)

              you are a strange kind.

              Right back at ya, little man. Next time, try responding to what I actually wrote, rather than the conversations going on in your feeble imagination. It might help in communicating with each other.

              If you call me little, you have no idea who your enemies or friends are.

              Trust me, with each round I'm getting a much, much clearer picture of who you are.

              you make me sad

              Of that, I have no doubt, but then I can't really help you with whatever emotional/psychological issues you are struggling with. For that you will likely need professional help.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 03 2015, @02:07PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 03 2015, @02:07PM (#231746) Homepage Journal

        Agreed. Zug's posts speak volumes more than he can possibly be aware of.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:09PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:09PM (#231902)

          No, he is 100% aware. If you go through his posting history you'll see on at least one occasion that he's openly accepted that he is a tribalist and that his moral compass is purely guided by an us-versus-them mentality. In all my decades on the internet I have never met someone so willing to own their own bigotry. Kind of refreshing because at least you know there is no point in even engaging.

          • (Score: 2) by zugedneb on Thursday September 03 2015, @08:50PM

            by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday September 03 2015, @08:50PM (#231962)

            Honestly it is more than just trolling and antisocial behaviour.
            But see, as long as there are people in the country who have to train to kill and interrogate, that is the police and military, I see no reason to be the emo newfag, who everyone knows will not be around when the fight comes.

            You know, I speak like this in real life to.
            Sometimes, you can read in the paper someone killing a woman or a child.
            People say, he needs mental care.
            I say, both the mental-careists and the culprit needs to be cooked alive.
            I would honestly consider it entertaining.

            There are a lot of opinions around that needs police escort :D

            So I challenge you: find in any of my posts something that threatens a truly precious human being.
            You will not find it.

            Instead, you will find this: you are the kind of person, who decides that you want to survive at any price.
            If the turks come, you will become a muslim, to live.
            On the other hand, if the turks come, I will be around to kill them.
            And you know, instinctively, that my kind hates your kind more then the enemy.
            I will kill you for who you are, the same as I will kill the enemy.
            In my eyes, you are not better then them.
            You will consider very carefully if you will be around in times of need.
            And this is you sentence for it: death...

            --
            old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @09:45PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @09:45PM (#231984)

              You know, you didn't actually have to demonstrate the truth of my words. Don't get me wrong, it's always nice to have backup, but you didn't have to put yourself out on my account.

              • (Score: 2) by zugedneb on Thursday September 03 2015, @09:52PM

                by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday September 03 2015, @09:52PM (#231987)

                don't understand you.
                from a lot of points, life is a nightmare.
                sometimes I speak them...
                this is all an aspect of life.
                there are a lot of people like this.
                evolution made them at some point, maybe to aid the tribe?
                we are also a port of life.
                what we say is also a part of the whole truth.

                would you prefer not to hear it?

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                old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:17AM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:17AM (#231596) Homepage

    As a light-skinned man with Straight White Male Privilege, I ask: Where is that place?

    I'd move to it! It's the next best thing to Serbian rape camps [wikipedia.org] and much more modern with less risk of being killed unlike those Durka-Durka [wikipedia.org] places.

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by zugedneb on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:43AM

      by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday September 03 2015, @06:43AM (#231603)

      Thank you for the link, bro :D
      Witch brings me to the next topic: the jewish lies:
      look at this "camp brothel" made by the nazis in the "third reich", according to wikipedia:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_enslavement_by_Nazi_Germany_in_World_War_II [wikipedia.org]

      Those pictures are an other example jewsh lies: look at the construction quality...
      Stone pillars for the roof, polished marble stairs, stone and brick walls...

      Who the fuck constructs such brothels in the middle of a war in a concentration camp?

      Only the jews can do this... They pick some random shit, and than claim it was made for them in a concentration camp... :DDDD

      --
      old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
  • (Score: 1) by Marco2G on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:02AM

    by Marco2G (5749) on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:02AM (#231608)

    The insight that sometimes racism is not completely irrational?

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Nerdfest on Thursday September 03 2015, @10:34AM

      by Nerdfest (80) on Thursday September 03 2015, @10:34AM (#231653)

      Racism is always irrational. Culturalism isn't though.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:27PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @07:27PM (#231912)

        > Racism is always irrational. Culturalism isn't though.

        Lol, talk about splitting hairs.

        Race is culture. Perhaps you don't remember the times when irish, italians and germans were all excluded from the "white" race. [vox.com]

      • (Score: 2) by CirclesInSand on Thursday September 03 2015, @09:37PM

        by CirclesInSand (2899) on Thursday September 03 2015, @09:37PM (#231982)

        I assure you, you want a racist doctor. A doctor that knows which medicine to prescribe to which race is a much better doctor than a doctor who believes that all people are the same.

        And since I know someone is going to think "that's not real racism", let me just preemptively direct that someone to wikipedia [wikipedia.org] .

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @09:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @09:47PM (#231985)

          > A doctor that knows which medicine to prescribe to which race is a much better doctor than a doctor who believes that all people are the same.

          Yeah, I really want a doctor who is going to prescribe medicine based on my race rather than my symptoms. That is the pinnacle of scientific medicine. Top notch all the way!