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posted by janrinok on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:36AM   Printer-friendly
from the lasers-on-razors dept.

Shaving can be the absolute worst, especially for people with sensitive skin. Razors can leave behind razor burn, ingrown hairs and cuts, and when you've worn down a razor so that it's no longer usable, it joins the others in landfills to the tune of 2 billion razors per year in the US (PDF).

The makers of a new product called the Skarp Laser Razor want to give you an incredibly close, irritation-free shave using lasers. The prototype is an aluminum razor-shaped gizmo that they say uses a laser to cut (not burn) the hair at skin level for a close shave, and works for all hair colors.

Because the laser is supposed to last about 50,000 hours and be usable without water, it would be good for the environment as well.

http://www.cnet.com/news/forget-blades-the-skarp-laser-razor-wants-you-to-shave-with-lasers/

[Kickstarter Campaign]: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving


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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by mhajicek on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:43AM

    by mhajicek (51) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:43AM (#243375)

    Not shark laser?

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Tork on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:37AM

      by Tork (3914) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:37AM (#243385)
      Sigh.
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      • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @09:10AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @09:10AM (#243436)

        You can find solace in the fact parent was only modded +4 Funny instead of +5.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Hyperturtle on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:01PM

        by Hyperturtle (2824) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:01PM (#243498)

        You have to work with what you have.

        I had been a part of another forum a long time ago (not slashdot) that was quite exclusionist and it fizzled due to too strong of enforcement against such things that the self-selected moderators deemed stupid (all the while conveniently forgetting about various individual inanities while persecuting the new user ones). It faded away slowly. That creative spark evaporated, or simply stopped coming back when new folks learned it was a place for angry neckbeards and graybeards (and gray neckbeards). It wasn't due to corporate mismanagement as it was more like trying to maintain a view of how things should be without the power to make it so except on a very small scale. In the end, the more power (moderation) done at that place resulted the more powerless it became over time. Eventually the mods were left to only moderate themselves, with the occasional accidental new user being corrected and not returning.

        Besides, sometimes trying to shape something that might not need shaping results in a different product than originally anticipated. Cutting corners doesn't make something well-rounded, as good as that looks when done with paper. There is no cutting-edge left when it's deliberately dulled.

        I agree that the immaturity needs to be held in check, but I personally don't know how to manage it aside from ascribing it to a character trait that can be refined only to a certain extent. I was partially at fault for enforcing my beliefs and I was probably wrong as the place doesn't exist anymore. I now think steam needs to be let out...we're not all academics all the time. Perhaps I paid attention to elementary school teachers I had for encouraging students to do the right hing, I may have the right answer (or close to it), as it probably would work well in business and here, too.

        Let people have their fun in a safe manner, but make sure the work gets done. It might even be more productive that way...

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:53PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:53PM (#243547)

          kuro5hin?

        • (Score: 2) by Tork on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:24PM

          by Tork (3914) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:24PM (#243558)
          I'm just saying that particular joke is really old. As someone who still finds farting funny I am not a maturity zealot.
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          • (Score: 2) by Hyperturtle on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:49PM

            by Hyperturtle (2824) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:49PM (#243612)

            Well, I would have modded you insightful had I not replied.

            I'm not suggesting you are wrong. Clearly, you were not.

            It's just that you have no escape without an uphill battle; in my growth towards being less jaded I have come to accept *some* of it as positive. I can be dumb, too.

            Perhaps if you consider Austin Powers to be a classic that reaches beyond the generations, then you can in turn quote from beavis and butthead, or Bill and Ted's or Harold and Kumar or Office Space or something instead.

            (I've found that not enough people remember caddyshack or ferris bueller...but... austin powers isn't at that age yet. When will it ever be appropriate again to state that "The new oldsmobiles are in early this year!" It seems appropriate whenever I witness a created disaster that the people responsible are totally oblivious about while actively participating in it, but few people get the reference. Or when I say "this is glue. Strong Stuff" when I am about to create a similar disaster that others will gape at as I slip away unnoticed? I'd get them off my lawn if I could only do the same things with my car)

      • (Score: 4, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:57PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:57PM (#243617) Journal

        Soylent Logic: One Year old jokes about 18 year old jokes are +5 funny.

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Thursday October 01 2015, @02:12AM

        by HiThere (866) on Thursday October 01 2015, @02:12AM (#243803) Journal

        In this case it was essentially on target, and so doesn't deserve you disrespect, even though it *has* been overused. (What did it ever refer to anyway? I've never known.)

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2015, @08:40AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2015, @08:40AM (#243906)

          > (What did it ever refer to anyway? I've never known.)

          Austin Powers.

      • (Score: 2) by penguinoid on Thursday October 01 2015, @03:16AM

        by penguinoid (5331) on Thursday October 01 2015, @03:16AM (#243839)

        His wit is as sharp as a laser-wielding skarp razor.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by davester666 on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:04AM

    by davester666 (155) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:04AM (#243378)

    does not automatically make it "good for the environment".

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:19AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:19AM (#243382) Journal

      I think the point is that it requires no running water (or at least less water), no lather, and no disposable cartridges or steel blades.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by TheRaven on Wednesday September 30 2015, @10:19AM

      by TheRaven (270) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @10:19AM (#243455) Journal
      It consumes one AAA battery per month. This can be recycled and it can probably run on rechargeables, which would mean that it's using a small amount of electricity and basically nothing else. The environmental impact of manufacturing is likely to be higher, but if it takes 5 minutes to shave each day then the razor will last over 1,000 years, so the amount of that waste per month is very low.

      There are two things to compare it against. Wet shaving consumes shaving gel / foam, which is often shipped in metal pressurised containers (relatively high environmental impact for manufacturing) and either the blades or the entire razor need replacing quite frequently. As TFA says, these typically aren't recycled because of health concerns, so they end up in landfill.

      In comparison to an electric razor, it's probably quite similar in terms of power consumption, but will last a lot longer (electric razor blades usually wear out after a few years. Sometimes they're replaceable, sometimes people throw away the entire razor).

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      • (Score: 2) by fnj on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:54PM

        by fnj (1654) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:54PM (#243672)

        electric razor blades usually wear out after a few years

        Assuming you mean cutters and foil, I'm lucky if mine are any good after one month. The stubble on my chin and upper lip is as tough as hardened steel. Every other place, soft as down, but chin and lip tear up an electric razor really bad. They are also so tough that a blade razor just skips painfully over them or can't be forced through them at all. A rotary electric just yanks them out. It's torture.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Francis on Wednesday September 30 2015, @11:05PM

        by Francis (5544) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @11:05PM (#243740)

        I was considering backing it, but decided to wait until it's actually in production.

        I've got a very thick beard and the modern cartridge razors don't even give me one shave before they're so clogged that I can't use them. The old-school butterfly style allows me to at least rinse out the gunk that collects during the shave. But, even that I have issues with because I've also got these tiny bumps all over the place.

        If this razor actually works as well as they expect it to, I'll be more than happy to shell out for it. I'm just a bit concerned that the claims are over-hyped and that they might not get something as good as they're promising. I hope they do and I'll be glad to fork over the money if they succeed, but I've been burned by enough KS campaigns to back one that's already been funded without a pretty substantial benefit.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by TheRaven on Thursday October 01 2015, @08:28AM

          by TheRaven (270) on Thursday October 01 2015, @08:28AM (#243904) Journal
          By the time it was posted here, they'd already raised around ten times their funding goal, so it didn't seem worth backing (particularly since the only options were a small donation, or a multi-pack). If they can actually get them into production and selling for around £100, I'll happily buy one.
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          • (Score: 1) by Francis on Thursday October 01 2015, @05:48PM

            by Francis (5544) on Thursday October 01 2015, @05:48PM (#244111)

            That factored into my decision rather heavily. If I could have gotten one of those first early bird spots, I might have backed it, but at the current price, I'm not willing to take the risk.

            I'm sure the technology is coming and this might be it, but I'm not going to risk my hard earned money on a project that's already received more than enough funding to go. I'll just buy one when it comes out.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:49PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:49PM (#243528) Homepage Journal

      "There is no cutting-edge left when it's deliberately dulled."

      That's good - can I use that? Should I just attribute it to "Davester on Soylent"?

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:16AM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:16AM (#243380) Journal

    The production version had better work unlike it does in this video:

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving/posts/1364296 [kickstarter.com]

    Whatever they have in the lab currently is terrible.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:57AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:57AM (#243390)

      We can't talk about many aspects of our technology because it would reveal our IP. A few users have made comments regarding how we might be achieving this but we are not going to comment on wether they're right or wrong.

      Sounds like they intend to file for some patents on this. Do all of the crowdfunders get royalties if this takes off?

      Pseudo Edit: According to the FAQ [kickstarter.com], it Is patented. Since the purpose of Patents is to disclose the invention, I fail to see what all the secrecy is about.

      • (Score: 1) by Francis on Wednesday September 30 2015, @11:08PM

        by Francis (5544) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @11:08PM (#243745)

        I was curious about that as well. I wonder if they mean that they've submitted an application that's in process. Because if it's already been patented, then there's no point in keeping the numbers a secret as the competition would know about it.

        If it's in process, that I can understand because somebody could come in with a more specific patent that would block them.

    • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:05AM

      by hemocyanin (186) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:05AM (#243393) Journal

      It sure looks like skin was being burned in certain parts of that video -- you could see the skin light up if the shaver was pressed too close. Secondly, what a wonderful way to wake up -- smell of coffee, toast, and burnt hair.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:38PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:38PM (#243519)

        or burnt flesh.

        • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:05PM

          by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:05PM (#243552)

          My memory of lasers and burnt smell comes from my Lasik. TMYK*

          Needless to say, no more lasers near my face.

      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:39PM

        by VLM (445) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:39PM (#243521)

        Secondly, what a wonderful way to wake up -- smell of coffee, toast, and burnt hair.

        This is the part that confuses me about the product. OK so lasers can set stuff on fire at a distance, and hair burns... why not skip all the star trek stuff and just use a cigarette lighter, or a torch?

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by etherscythe on Wednesday September 30 2015, @06:18PM

          by etherscythe (937) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @06:18PM (#243629) Journal

          Ever cut anything with a laser? I have. Cool thing about it (haha, yes, I know), you don't get much collateral damage to the surrounding area as long as your aperture and lenses are clean. If you could somehow get a torch to hit only in a straight line, and not have heat radiating into, say, your skin - that would be great too. However, flames typically don't work that way. Photons can.

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    • (Score: 1) by Gobo on Wednesday September 30 2015, @08:09AM

      by Gobo (1189) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @08:09AM (#243428)

      I was thinking the same thing. That looks like a terrible shave, even disregarding the slowness. It takes a long time to cut a single hair, it's uneven, and I have trouble seeing how you are going to use that to cut close to the skin.

      I also noted that they never show the end of the handle of the prototype. There is no way of knowing whether this is battery powered, or has a chord attached to it still.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:36AM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:36AM (#243384) Homepage

    Now that's a dodgy-ass euphemism if I ever heard one. The issue is not the color of the hair but rather the thickness and curliness of it. Or, put more directly, it's about race/ethnicity. You can see the occasional hair salon with a sign that says, "We work with ethnic hair." So that means weaves and extensions along with other methods most commonly associated with African-Americans.

    Every pasty-faced White boy who actually has Blacks as friends knows about the shaving issue, which is addressed now with Bump Fighter [images-amazon.com] brand razors targeted to African-Americans. If you've served in the military you probably know that most people who are granted shaving waivers are African in origin. It's an issue of health and hygiene because curly hairs become more readily ingrown.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by takyon on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:39AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:39AM (#243386) Journal

      *hairs of color

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:54AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:54AM (#243389)

      Not sure you're right. Laser hair removal often doesn't work well for people with very light blonde hair.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Jiro on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:57AM

      by Jiro (3176) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:57AM (#243401)

      Laser beams are made of light and one could reasonably think that blonde hair would be harder to cut with a laser than dark hair, so it could genuinely be about hair color.

      • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:23AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:23AM (#243419)

        That is exactly what it is about. Laser hair removal is significantly less efficacious for blond hairs than for black hairs because black hairs absorb the energy much better. E-fueled is just so racist he thinks everything is about race.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by VLM on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:42PM

          by VLM (445) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:42PM (#243523)

          Speaking of color, I totally understand how a pasty white vampiric complexion guy with dark hair could preferentially burn the hair off. Hows that work if you're a black skinned dude with equally black hair, superficially it would tend to sear skin as the same rate as hair due to similar color, right?

          Maybe its some kind of surface area to volume ratio thing where frying off a hair's thickness of skin wouldn't really do much to my skin but would pretty well annihilate a single hair.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:24AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:24AM (#243420)
        I would hope that white hair wouldn't end up like an optical fibre and guide some light to burn stuff underneath.

        Then again, perhaps it would only kill the hair follicle - which means you wouldn't need to shave that particular hair till the follicle is regenerated.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:38AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:38AM (#243423)

          For laser hair removal it is the dark hair that works like an "optical fibre" - the dark hair absorbs the heat and channels it to the root which then burns out. If you are lucky the root is damaged so much that it won't grow any more hair, but most of the time, especially if your hair is blond, it just burns it enough to make the hair fall out but not enough to permanently injure the root.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:04PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:04PM (#243532) Homepage Journal

      *sigh*

      Laser. Laser is light. Hair comes in a variety of colors. Meaning, hair reflects and absorbs different light frequencies differently. I think they meant what they said - it works on hair of all colors. Don't know what color your hair is, nor do I want to know, but have you ever tried to shave someone else? Even with a traditional razor, not all hair acts the same when you start whacking it. I fully expect that different color hair might react differently to some types of laser. Thin, translucent red hairs may or may not react the same as coarse brown hair.

      As for Africans, African-Americans, and others who have nappy hair - this product promises to cut their hair just as efficiently as it cuts Euro, Asian, or Native American hair. It makes no claims about those damned irritating shaving bumps, does it? If they've made such a claim, I've missed it. That curly hair is going to grow back just as curly, I would imagine - and be just as likely to become ingrown as if it were cut with a razor.

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    • (Score: 2) by penguinoid on Thursday October 01 2015, @03:23AM

      by penguinoid (5331) on Thursday October 01 2015, @03:23AM (#243842)

      Didn't Ethanol-fueled get the memo? All people of all genders and races are exactly the same, except for boob size and melanin content.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2015, @07:40PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 03 2015, @07:40PM (#244912)

      Although I agree with you and recognize genetic differences, I am obligated on behalf of tumblr to say "Das Rascis". In my country you can be locked up for stating a medical fact if some people think that a particular medical fact is a "Hate Crime". You don't even have to call for violence against anyone, you only need to state a medical fact and you can be arrested. American Style "Freedom of Speech" does not exist here. I'm not looking for permission to spew hatred, I'm only looking for the ability to talk honestly about factual information, not Neo-Nazi garbage. I can actually get questioned over this comment but hopefully I won't. I've taken precautions so my connection is obscured. I wholly expect people to criticize me and dismiss my comment but it is the truth.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by engblom on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:42AM

    by engblom (556) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:42AM (#243387)

    This razor has been discussed at several forums. There are several concerns:
    - Not even once you see a working prototype. In their video they never shave with it.
    - When they show the laser hitting the hair, it is not instantly cutting, so the shave is super slow
    - If it would actually burn the hair, would it not smell terrible as hair on fire?
    - If it would actually be strong enough for shaving, how can we be sure it does not do damage to skin like UV does? What frequency are they using? Is it a 100% safe frequency.

    Many concluded that unless they see a working prototype, they would not support this kickstarter project.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:10AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:10AM (#243394) Journal

      I wouldn't worry so much about 3 and 4. The idea that a laser of a certain intensity and wavelength will cut a susceptible chromophore seems both plausible and falsifiable.

      1 and 2 are more troubling. From the video [kickstarter.com] it seems the laser shines from a very thin edge at the bottom, where a blade would normally be, in order to cut close to the base of the hair.

      As for why it takes so many passes to cut 1 hair, they blame a fiber "made free hand in our lab using limited resources". I assume the fiber refers to a strip between the lasers and your skin. Obviously, the prototype is not impressive. If they couldn't get it to work, they could have shined an equivalent blue laser directly onto a hair or two to obliterate them for the camera closeup. Shine and blow it away with a puff of breath. But no, all they have is that weak demo. How do they even know they can build a fast and effective razor if they can't show it working once?

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      • (Score: 5, Informative) by RedBear on Wednesday September 30 2015, @06:30AM

        by RedBear (1734) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 30 2015, @06:30AM (#243406)

        I wouldn't worry so much about 3 and 4. The idea that a laser of a certain intensity and wavelength will cut a susceptible chromophore seems both plausible and falsifiable.
        1 and 2 are more troubling. From the video it seems the laser shines from a very thin edge at the bottom, where a blade would normally be, in order to cut close to the base of the hair.
        As for why it takes so many passes to cut 1 hair, they blame a fiber "made free hand in our lab using limited resources". I assume the fiber refers to a strip between the lasers and your skin. Obviously, the prototype is not impressive. If they couldn't get it to work, they could have shined an equivalent blue laser directly onto a hair or two to obliterate them for the camera closeup. Shine and blow it away with a puff of breath. But no, all they have is that weak demo. How do they even know they can build a fast and effective razor if they can't show it working once?

        I believe you might be misinterpreting how the device works. You're no doubt imagining, as I initially did, a bunch of laser beams projecting from the front edge of the razor, through the ends of a row of optical fibers or something. But that doesn't seem to be how it actually works.

        In the demo video you linked to I can clearly see an extremely thin fiber suspended slightly away from the front edge of the razor, and the razor body itself seems to be just a solid piece of metal or plastic whose only purpose is to hold that single optical fiber. It's clearly this thin optical fiber that is doing the actual cutting, as the laser light wavelength is refracted out of the side of the optical fiber and enters the hair and is absorbed by the chromophores in the hair follicle. The laser is inside the optical fiber, not projecting in any way from the front edge of the razor. That's one reason they keep saying it's eye-safe. I believe they did the demo video under that funky green light so that it becomes more obvious what is happening to the hair. (Or maybe the light was normal or reddish but they just shifted the white balance of the video.) Without the light we'd no doubt see some light coming from within that optical fiber.

        At about 1:25 in the main Kickstarter video you can see a guy in a lab rubbing a bare optical fiber sideways over his arm letting it melt through the hair on his arm. Now that I've seen the two videos together a few times it becomes fairly obvious what is happening. It's a really interesting concept and not at all what I was assuming when I read the initial submission. And I can understand how it doesn't make any "burnt hair" smell. Because it only melts through a tiny spot in the hair follicle, and it isn't burning the hair to a crisp like a flame or a more powerful laser might do. It's just heating the keratin up enough to separate the hair.

        The laser razor itself is actually a bit of a finicky gimmick. I don't see any reason it won't work perfectly fine in its final form. But the real breakthrough here seems to be that they've found a laser wavelength that works on all types of hair. That's huge. It could mean that we may shortly have laser hair removal devices (you know, the big flash gun things) that both do less skin damage and work even on light-colored hair, and there is a rather large market of people who have been desperately seeking some kind of effective hair removal options their whole lives. Or, I could be wrong and this laser wavelength wouldn't work for that purpose.

        Unfortunately the two demos so far have been done on people with dark hair. To verify that they've actually got something that will work with light hair, they should have demoed on someone with very light hair. I'm not sure I'm willing to dump $200 on a razor until I see that kind of evidence.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by rst on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:21AM

    by rst (2175) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:21AM (#243396)

    Here is the patent. http://patents.justia.com/patent/20150223889 [justia.com] first or secomd hit when you Google the guy's name and patent. He has a couple of them.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2015, @07:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2015, @07:38PM (#244158)

      In their 4th update [kickstarter.com] they claim they have a magic wavelength that presumably destroys hair, but not skin.

      Either they are being confused by the use of the "Intellectual Property" term [gnu.org], or they are lying. Their inability to demonstrate the cutter safely touching skin, coupled with "stretch goals" exceeding 20X the initial funding request makes me think they are lying.

      What I don't get though is: what is their end-game if it is a con?

      If it is a trade secret, how many minutes do they think it will take a competitor to hook it up to a spectrometer?

      Maybe the real point of the stretch goals is to fund lawsuits to sue upstart competitors.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2015, @08:24PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2015, @08:24PM (#244175)

        Thought of another possibility:

        The laser is not skin-safe. However, the USPO has so far refused to issue a new patent for a Safety razor [wikipedia.org]... but with "lasers"!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:39AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:39AM (#243399)

    I mighta put down $50 on a risk vs reward like this. 89 is a little steep, and those have all gone.
    I'd probably put down 100 for a "no risk I've used one".

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:43AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @05:43AM (#243400)

    :)

  • (Score: 2, Funny) by throwaway28 on Wednesday September 30 2015, @06:27AM

    by throwaway28 (5181) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @06:27AM (#243405) Journal

    Attaching hair with lasers is quite easy. The thinkgeek beard machine. http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/1ba3/ [thinkgeek.com]

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by zeigerpuppy on Wednesday September 30 2015, @06:52AM

    by zeigerpuppy (1298) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @06:52AM (#243411)

    I you want something efficient, cheap and environmentally friendly,
    Get a cutthroat razor, excellent shave and you look badass using it.
    Been using one for years, needs a sharpen every year or so and a quick hone before use.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @06:59AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @06:59AM (#243413)

      But what if you want to shave on long-distance flights? Good luck getting it onto the plane! :-)

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by tangomargarine on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:28AM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:28AM (#243421)

      Except for the part where they're rather more difficult to use and easier to hurt yourself with.

      Straight razors require considerable skill to hone and strop, and require more care during shaving

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @10:06AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @10:06AM (#243453)

        If there is anything, I would love something to shave my damm ass.

        Having hair in that area only snags the toilet paper and makes hygiene difficult. Almost forces me to use a bidet. And even then, its a messy affair.

        I hate dealing with all those klingons.

        I will post this anonymously for obvious reason.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @11:38AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @11:38AM (#243466)

          Post how you want, we still know who you are! :)

        • (Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Wednesday September 30 2015, @12:56PM

          by Magic Oddball (3847) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @12:56PM (#243477) Journal

          I did a lot of experimenting with different men's & women's razors, and I found that the (I think Gilette?) women's "Venus" razor was the best for that job. Its razor-heads lasted long enough to get the job done (after already doing my pits/calves) before getting dull, and something about the handle/head design made it the least likely to slice into the skin even though it gave a close shave.

          I did notice that there's a lot of creams & foam on the women's side of the aisle that simply remove the hair, but I've never tried them. (If it contains rubbing alcohol, speaking from painful experience, don't use it!)

          All of that said, if you primarily go to the bathroom at home, you might try using the adult sanitary/personal cleaning wipes. Let's just say I've known quite a few people that can't get clean just using toilet paper due to certain problems with their proverbial plumbing, and saw them recommend it to one another in discussion groups.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2015, @01:11AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 01 2015, @01:11AM (#243779)

            Thanks!

            Sometimes hair is not the glorified thing its claimed to be.

            In the wrong place, it can be a royal frustration to deal with.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @02:47PM (#243526)

          Sounds like you need a Laser Bidet(tm).

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Absolutely.Geek on Wednesday September 30 2015, @09:34AM

      by Absolutely.Geek (5328) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @09:34AM (#243444)

      "I you want something efficient, cheap and environmentally friendly" .... grow a beard "and you look badass"

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @09:50PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @09:50PM (#243707)

        I would do that, except hairy necks aren't accepted in my culture.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:15PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:15PM (#243535) Homepage Journal

      I had one. At the time, I didn't grow enough facial hair to worry about, but I wanted one because they were cool. I was probably the first kid on the block, or something like that. Then, I joined the Navy. Couldn't take it to boot camp, of course. But, I recovered my razor before reporting to my first duty station. Like you say, it kind marked me as a badass. THEN - I reported to my second duty station. A real ship. The floaty-bobby-rocky-rolly kind of real ship. I decided that discretion was the better part of valor, and put my beautiful razor away. I worked with those cheap throwaway razors for a few months - then I got promoted. Way back then, petty officers were permitted to wear beards. I grew one just as quickly as was physically possible. I'm still wearing my beard. Or, most of it. All the red has fallen out, all the brown has turned gray - but I've still got it!

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    • (Score: 2) by richtopia on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:18PM

      by richtopia (3160) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 30 2015, @04:18PM (#243556) Homepage Journal

      I advise double edged safety razors instead of straight edge. They are inherently safer but still use super cheap blades.

      People are surprisingly passionate about razors on Amazon. My current entry recommendation is this Feather handle:
      http://amzn.com/B003YJ70NY [amzn.com]

      As far as blades I would advise not worrying too much (Amazon reviews sound like a religious debate sometimes). I'm using Feather now and they do seem sharper than the Persona blades I had before but I could get a good shave out of both of them.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:35AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2015, @07:35AM (#243422)

    Best way to shave is with shaving oil in the shower. No soap, just oil. The heat and humidity of the shower makes it easy to get a close shave. No mess since it all goes down the drain. No lather - the oil mixed with water provides all the lubrication you need. And since razors dull due to oxidation long before they actually wear out the residual oil on the blade protects it and makes it last a very long time. I easily get 3 months of shaving out of a single razor blade.

    One $4 bottle of oil [walmart.com] lasts 6-12 months.

    I use this $30 fogless mirror [amazon.com] to see what I'm doing.

    Shaving oil is great for women's legs too - every girl I know who has ever tried it immediately switched to it. In fact, I first learned about shaving oil from a stripper.

  • (Score: 1) by DutchUncle on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:43PM

    by DutchUncle (5370) on Wednesday September 30 2015, @03:43PM (#243545)

    You have to be kidding.

  • (Score: 2) by jasassin on Wednesday September 30 2015, @09:25PM

    by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Wednesday September 30 2015, @09:25PM (#243698) Homepage Journal

    If you're into self-torture devices, this is for you. Nov. 5 2013
    By Dani R - Published on Amazon.com
    I hated it! It kept burning my darn chin! I bought it to try taking care of my full on lumber jack beard and mustache, because laser is too expensive now. It's this thin wire that gets hot as all hell and only comes down to the skin when you're holding it at the right angle, speed, pressure, spinning counter clock wise while sprinkling fairy dust on your head and sucking on eye of newt. Every time I was "finished" with a session, and by finished I mean crying because my chin looks like it was lashed by the fiery whip of a Greek God, I had tons of wire burn marks all over, and the hair was still there. THE DAMN HAIR WAS STILL THERE! And to add to the torture, you're supposed to buff the remaining hair away, so essentially, you're just rubbing sand paper over burnt skin while not one friggin hair comes off your body. Needless to say, I sent it back for a refund.

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