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posted by NCommander on Tuesday April 01 2014, @07:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the now-with-longer-half-lifes dept.

Ok, I meant to have an open forum about moderation *way* before this point. I did read the various feedback and comments left on my journal and the last moderation, and have made some changes to the moderation system.

First, mod points now expire after eight hours. I'm willing to extend this to 12 or 16 hours after I'm sure comments will still reach +5 fairly regularly. With luck, we'll get to the point we can extend mod-points to last a full 24 hours which I suspect will end most of the complaining on them vanishing too soon.

Second, I'd like to open the floor to making a more fundamental change to the moderation system. Specifically, allowing people to post AND moderate in the same discussion. We've seen plenty of posts get up to +5, which means 3-4 people gave up their right to post to keep our comments high quality. This was brought up during our last plea for stories, and I wanted to solicit more feedback before unleashing this upon the site.

I've floated the idea on IRC, and it seems there's a fair bit of support for removing the post/moderate split, though we'd need to make some changes to prevent rampant abuse. Here's what was suggested to keep things sane:
  • Mod points won't roll back after a post
  • Moderators can post in the same discussion (either before or after moderating), but can not moderate replies to their posts.

I've heard various ideas such as limiting it only after mods have expended their points (this will require implementing a cooldown to prevent a user from getting points again too soon). I want to hear your feedback, and I'll roll together something for the next major update of the site. Leave your comments

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  • (Score: 2) by RobotMonster on Tuesday April 01 2014, @10:06AM

    by RobotMonster (130) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @10:06AM (#24004) Journal

    Yeah, gamifying karma is definitely where my head was at. I don't know that you need perks as such -- badges and other useless honourifics, along with some stats would satisfy me.

    In the interests of encouraging more comments & lively discussion, perhaps a user can earn "points" (not necessarily Karma) based on how many replies each of their comments receives, either just first-level replies, or the entire sub-tree if feasible. -- i.e. a reward for encouraging more comments to be posted.

    Similarly for story submissions, you could get points related to how many posts were generated by your stories.

    Starting Score:    1  point
    Karma-Bonus Modifier   +1  

    Total Score:   2  
  • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Tuesday April 01 2014, @10:38AM

    by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <> on Tuesday April 01 2014, @10:38AM (#24010) Homepage Journal

    We have the Achievements system which works (though the HTML for it was missing; re-adding that won't be hard), though I always found it to be kinda stupid. I *like* video game achievements, but I'm not sure how you could have actual achievements on this site and not be stupid or repetitive (like being upmodded 1000/5000/10000 times). I may open the floor to this once I get this discussion summarized.

    Still always moving
    • (Score: 2) by cmn32480 on Tuesday April 01 2014, @02:42PM

      by cmn32480 (443) <{cmn32480} {at} {}> on Tuesday April 01 2014, @02:42PM (#24205) Journal

      This type of achievement is how a lot of systems work. My Fitbit (hi-tech pedometer) is the one that comes to mind most readily.

      It is kinda like lifetime achievement badges. On my Fitbit, it tracks for lifetime numbers of steps, lifetime staircases climbed, most steps in a particular day, and a few other things. Getting badge is a small ego boost and encourages continued participation.

      I know the achievements system exists, but I don't know a whole lot about it. My $0.02 is a small thing like lifetime tracking is a nice little ego boost, and if we can be given the option to make it public or not, so much the better. As long as the achievements are achievable for the common Soyler (so as not to discourage those of us who lurk and occasionally post), it might be worth looking at.

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