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Ok, I meant to have an open forum about moderation *way* before this point. I did read the various feedback and comments left on my journal and the last moderation, and have made some changes to the moderation system.
First, mod points now expire after eight hours. I'm willing to extend this to 12 or 16 hours after I'm sure comments will still reach +5 fairly regularly. With luck, we'll get to the point we can extend mod-points to last a full 24 hours which I suspect will end most of the complaining on them vanishing too soon.
Second, I'd like to open the floor to making a more fundamental change to the moderation system. Specifically, allowing people to post AND moderate in the same discussion. We've seen plenty of posts get up to +5, which means 3-4 people gave up their right to post to keep our comments high quality. This was brought up during our last plea for stories, and I wanted to solicit more feedback before unleashing this upon the site.
I've floated the idea on IRC, and it seems there's a fair bit of support for removing the post/moderate split, though we'd need to make some changes to prevent rampant abuse. Here's what was suggested to keep things sane:
Ok, I meant to have an open forum about moderation *way* before this point. I did read the various feedback and comments left on my journal and the last moderation, and have made some changes to the moderation system.
First, mod points now expire after eight hours. I'm willing to extend this to 12 or 16 hours after I'm sure comments will still reach +5 fairly regularly. With luck, we'll get to the point we can extend mod-points to last a full 24 hours which I suspect will end most of the complaining on them vanishing too soon.
Second, I'd like to open the floor to making a more fundamental change to the moderation system. Specifically, allowing people to post AND moderate in the same discussion. We've seen plenty of posts get up to +5, which means 3-4 people gave up their right to post to keep our comments high quality. This was brought up during our last plea for stories, and I wanted to solicit more feedback before unleashing this upon the site.
I've floated the idea on IRC, and it seems there's a fair bit of support for removing the post/moderate split, though we'd need to make some changes to prevent rampant abuse. Here's what was suggested to keep things sane:
- Mod points won't roll back after a post
- Moderators can post in the same discussion (either before or after moderating), but can not moderate replies to their posts.
I've heard various ideas such as limiting it only after mods have expended their points (this will require implementing a cooldown to prevent a user from getting points again too soon). I want to hear your feedback, and I'll roll together something for the next major update of the site. Leave your comments
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by unitron on Tuesday April 01 2014, @04:18PM
...is not to have unlimited mod points, but to have them when I want them, when I see something I feel needs modding up (or on rare occasions down).
You could give everybody their own pool of them, and when they're used up there are no more until a certain period of time has passed and the pool is reloaded, so that they're available for doing good with, but not obsessively.
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(Score: 2) by mrcoolbp on Tuesday April 01 2014, @04:40PM
This is an interesting idea, have a few (1-3) "reserve" mod points floating around for high-karma users that *could* replenish after a month or so.
(Score:1^½, Radical)
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday April 01 2014, @07:50PM
What about connecting the replenishing to the upmoderation of your own posts? For example, if you got your post upmodeed (and are not on your upper limit of permanent moderation points), you get a certain fraction of a point (say, 0.2 points) into your permanent pool. Of course you can only spend full points (it may also make sense to only display full points, i.e. rounding down on display). Similarly, downmods of your own posts may reduce the number of permanent mod points you have by the same amount.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.