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on Thursday October 08 2015, @06:44PM
from the known-unknowns-of-collateral-damage dept.
from the known-unknowns-of-collateral-damage dept.
A Médecins sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders) hospital was bombed by the US. Result, 12 dead staff members and 10 dead patients. The coordinates of the hospital had been communicated to the US forces before to avoid mistakes. The US admits the attack was a decision. MSF is now seeking an independent inquiry.
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Afghan Hospital Bombing: MSF Demands Investigation Under Geneva Conventions
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Thursday October 08 2015, @08:25PM
I'm feeling somewhat the same way, but then we just have an insulated and isolated site where we come to escape the brutality of the real world.
The truth is, these are very serious things that are happening. Our government has knowingly bombed a hospital, killed doctors who risked their lives as part of that group, and killed innocent patients. Even if those patients were known terrorists, high on the list, it's an affront to human decency, and a blight on America's soul, that we killed them and their doctors at the same time.
It was a *hospital*. Yeah, I don't like Politics either around here most of the time. However, do you *really* think this is political? Politics is reserved to *talking* about laws, treaties, etc. Politics is supposed to be the art of negotiation and compromise. Bombing a hospital is *not* politics. We've come so far from whatever respect we had as honorable participants in military action, that we are just highwaymen and thugs now.
SoylentNews posts these articles because American's (which I think may be the primary audience) need to know just how thoroughly, and abhorrently, their government is failing them. We've become the monsters we hated. Perhaps we should know that. I for one don't want an insulated site where we delude ourselves into thinking everything is okay. It may not be as bad as many misanthropes feel it is, but it's for damn sure not anything rosy either.
I'm going to disagree, and say that we need to hear these things.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 1, Disagree) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday October 08 2015, @10:17PM
After 9/11, watching American politics and foreign policy was a lot like watching the rise of Nazi Germany in slow motion, kicked off by America's own Reichstag fire [wikipedia.org] (9/11 itself).
But about the hospital bombing, I don't feel much sympathy for those killed or injured in the bombing because people who go to war-torn shitholes with populations of feral savages to save lives are a lot more stupid and insane than they are altruistic.
I feel sorry for those in the hospital like I feel sorry for people who stick their dicks in beehives.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Thursday October 08 2015, @11:01PM
Let's remember that those beehive-abusing idiots are largely responsible for whatever goodwill we have with the rest of the world and those "shitholes". The fact they keep risking their lives and dying might actually be meaningful to *some* of the savages.
Otherwise, you're saying everything they did was in vain. I don't feel that way at all.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday October 09 2015, @12:59PM
Medecins Sans Frontieres generates goodwill, but not for America because they are a French organization. The US equivalent would be something like the Peace Corps, but I don't hear too much press these days about how the world loves us for the work those people do.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday October 09 2015, @01:08PM
Yeah man! USA! USA!! USA!!!
(Score: 3, Informative) by tathra on Friday October 09 2015, @02:58AM
yup, which makes the US now guilty of violating the geneva conventions [icrc.org]. torturing people was bad enough, now we're actively violating the geneva conventions? everyone involved in this, all the way up to the general who approved the attack, needs to be tried for their war crimes.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 09 2015, @03:50AM
This Isn’t The First Time The U.S. Has Bombed A Hospital [thinkprogress.org]
-- gewg_
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday October 09 2015, @12:08PM
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