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posted by martyb on Friday December 04 2015, @03:52PM   Printer-friendly
from the anything-you-can-do... dept.

Multiple sources report that on Thursday, December 3rd, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter announced that the US military will open all combat jobs to women. From The Wall Street Journal:

"This means that, as long as they qualify and meet the standards, women will now be able to contribute to our mission in ways they could not before," Mr. Carter said.

He spelled out the implications of his decision: "They'll be allowed to drive tanks, fire mortars, and lead infantry soldiers into combat. They'll be able to serve as Army Rangers and Green Berets, Navy SEALs, Marine Corps infantry, Air Force parajumpers and everything else that was previously open only to men."

[...] The practical effect of the announcement is to open up the 10% of positions that still remain closed to women--nearly 220,000 jobs--in infantry, reconnaissance and special operations units.

[Much more after the break.]

ABC News brings us some words from combat veteran and US congresswoman Tammy Duckworth (link again):

U.S. Rep. Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill., one of the first Army women to fly combat missions in the 2003-2011 Iraq war, welcomed the decision.

"I didn't lose my legs in a bar fight -- of course women can serve in combat," said Duckworth, whose helicopter was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade. "This decision is long overdue."

The Kurdish militia is another option for women who want to fight. Fox News earlier this year wrote about one such woman, Gill Rosenberg:

A Canadian-born Israeli woman who joined a Kurdish militia to fight against the Islamic State group said that after a stint in prison, she felt compelled to do something positive with her life and battle against the "genocide" unfolding in Syria and Iraq.

Gill Rosenberg, 31, was among the first female volunteers to fight in the Syrian civil war.

Vice brings us a story about another woman determined to fight ISIS, model Hanna Bohman:

As thousands of Syrian refugees flee the country, escaping Bashar al-Assad's barrel bombs and the barbarism of ISIS, one woman from Canada has headed to the war zone for a second time.

Hanna Bohman, aka Tiger Sun, joined the women's militia army of the People's Defence Unit, known as the YPJ in the Kurdish region of Syria (Rojava) following a near-fatal motorbike accident last year.

Also see NPR's coverage: Pentagon Says Women Can Now Serve In Front-Line Ground Combat Positions.


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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by zugedneb on Friday December 04 2015, @05:02PM

    by zugedneb (4556) on Friday December 04 2015, @05:02PM (#271855)

    I have read somehwere, that officers giving stupid orders were executed by the soldiers.
    I do not know how documented this is, and ask for someone to post a link...

    However, the man and the woman has a "strange" relationship. We have sex, we build family and we even socialize to some degree, but we do not respect, or like eachother.
    As an argument, wery few men who whould have a chance to make an AI or artificial person as a mate would implement a typical 20+ woman. Especially not a middle aged 35+ woman.

    This said, about combat i know this: there would be woman around messing up the mood and making people woried about abduction, or get abducted and scream entire night while getting raped and haven their vagina carved and burned up...
    Also theiy would not be on par with natural born male killers, and the only combat they would be sufficient for is agains teenage boys who are deployed out of mockery.

    In serious combat, I would kill them myself, before they would mess up the situation.

    If someone disagrees here is what we can do: I look like an east europen criminal, despite my whiny trollenglish, I am not enitrelly normal.
    Bring your fucking woman candidate who wants to prove shit to sweden, we sail out on international water and I will murder all of you in close combat with weapon of choice.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Friday December 04 2015, @05:22PM

    by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Friday December 04 2015, @05:22PM (#271862) Homepage Journal

    However, the man and the woman has a "strange" relationship. We have sex, we build family and we even socialize to some degree, but we do not respect, or like eachother.

    There are men and women who I don't like and/or don't respect. However, the type and placement of their genitals does not play any role in those types of decisions for me.

    I'm not sure if you're unbalanced, unhappy or unhinged. Regardless, I pity you for your deficiencies. That said, stay the hell away from my nieces. They deserve much better than you.

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    No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by dyingtolive on Friday December 04 2015, @05:33PM

    by dyingtolive (952) on Friday December 04 2015, @05:33PM (#271871)

    Maybe I don't represent the average person, but I generally have always found it easier to get along with women rather than men, and I'm male. Sex might be a motivator, but it's not the only one.

    I also quite like and respect my current girlfriend, at least, as much as I can like or respect any another human being.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday December 04 2015, @05:59PM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 04 2015, @05:59PM (#271881) Journal

    Sounds like you're either gay or else completely maldeveloped. Stay the ever-loving hell away from women; you very obviously do not know how to handle yourself around us and we deserve better than you.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 04 2015, @06:04PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 04 2015, @06:04PM (#271885)

    Oh wow, somebody's really scared of women. How sad. Didn't momma love you enough?

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 04 2015, @06:33PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 04 2015, @06:33PM (#271899)

    Do the human race a favor... Don't procreate.

  • (Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Friday December 04 2015, @08:33PM

    by nitehawk214 (1304) on Friday December 04 2015, @08:33PM (#271937)

    but we do not respect, or like eachother

    This isn't a male/female thing. People just don't like you.

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    • (Score: 2, Touché) by zugedneb on Friday December 04 2015, @09:10PM

      by zugedneb (4556) on Friday December 04 2015, @09:10PM (#271949)

      bro, do you know the old saying "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity"?

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      • (Score: 2, Touché) by nitehawk214 on Friday December 04 2015, @09:36PM

        by nitehawk214 (1304) on Friday December 04 2015, @09:36PM (#271958)

        Well said. But don't you know the saying that "flamebait is the something something I am too lazy to make a clever response so piss off"?

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