A disturbing trend in the coding world is looking to claim yet another victim. This time it's the Ruby language:
I am the creator of the Contributor Covenant, a code of conduct for Open Source projects. At last count there are over 13,000 projects on Github that have adopted it. This past year saw adoption of Contributor Covenant by a lot of very large, very visible projects, including Rails, Github's Atom text editor, Angular JS, bundler, curl, diaspora, discourse, Eclipse, rspec, shoes, and rvm. The bundler team made code of conduct integration an option in the gem creation workflow, putting it on par with license selection. Many open source language communities have already adopted the code of conduct, including Elixir, Mono, the .NET foundation, F#, and Apple's Swift. RubyTogether also adopted a policy to only fund Ruby projects that had a solid code of conduct in place.
Right now in the PHP community there is a healthy debate about adopting the Contributor Covenant. Since it came from and has been so widely adopted by the Ruby community at large, I think it's time that we consider adopting it for the core Ruby language as well.
Our community prides itself on niceness. What a code of conduct does is define what we mean by nice. It states clearly that we value openness, courtesy, and compassion. That we care about and want contributions from people who may be different from us. That we pledge to respect all contributors regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or other factors. And it makes it clear that we are prepared to follow through on these values with action when and if an incident arises.
I'm asking that we join with the larger Ruby community in supporting the adoption of the Contributor Covenant for the Ruby language. I think that this will be an important step forward and will ensure the continued welcoming and supportive environment around Ruby. You can read the full text of the Contributor Covenant at http://contributor-covenant.org/version/1/3/0/ and learn more at http://contributor-covenant.org/.
Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
[Ed Note: Rest assured we already have this situation firmly resolved here at SN. Our official response to those who would propose a code of conduct boils down to a very firm "No". If you'd like the unvarnished version, please feel free to ask on IRC.]
(Score: 4, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 25 2016, @04:06PM
Wait, porn lesbians or man-hating lesbians? The two get diametrically opposed reactions from me. All other categories of lesbian $brain->getOpinion($lesbian->{type}) returns undef.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 25 2016, @04:22PM
w00t! Buzz wins the internet today.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by http on Monday January 25 2016, @06:30PM
As a man, i gotta tell ya, fuck right off. You are part of the reason 1/3 of all women meet me (a male with a stereotypical appearance) with initial suspicison.
Your violence is not even close to funny, though there's at least one mouthbreather with mod points today who would disagree. And before you're tempted to say "it's only words!" I suggest you reflect on your reaction in the first 0.5 seconds of reading my last sentence that led you to try to defend yourself.
It's not so fun when you're on the recieving end of words, is it? Anyways, once you understand that moment, that reaction, there may be a chance for you to transform into a decent human being. I am certain you are capable. After all, you're a jerk, not an idiot.
I browse at -1 when I have mod points. It's unsettling.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anal Pumpernickel on Monday January 25 2016, @07:04PM
Your violence is not even close to funny
Violence?
And before you're tempted to say "it's only words!" I suggest you reflect on your reaction in the first 0.5 seconds of reading my last sentence that led you to try to defend yourself.
So what if his reaction was simply calmly thinking that he has no idea what you're talking about? You seem to be assuming that he would react in a certain way.
Even if someone is offended, that doesn't mean that violence occurred. Or you're using a very particular definition of the word "violence", and in which case, I say that that type of "violence" is alright.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Absolutely.Geek on Monday January 25 2016, @07:28PM
Offense is taken not given. If you want to be offended you will be.
Turns out you can make the choice to ignore those saying things that you don't like.
Don't trust the police or the government - Shihad: My mind's sedate.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 25 2016, @08:14PM
I'm not.
He can't be both?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by dyingtolive on Monday January 25 2016, @08:39PM
As a bald guy with a beard, which seems like a stereotypical male appearance nowadays, I do not think 1/3 of all women treat me with initial suspicion, lest of all because of someone's flippant (funny or otherwise) jokes in the comments section of a news aggregator somewhere. Where are you meeting these women? Maybe there's some other variable at work here?
Also, "violence"? You seem disproportionately angry. Maybe you should walk away and get a nice cup of tea or something and calm down.
Don't blame me, I voted for moose wang!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by q.kontinuum on Monday January 25 2016, @08:44PM
Are you sure you understood what the bigbird said? When I parse it, the result I get is:
- Porn-lesbians he likes
- Man-hating lesbians he doesn't like
(So far, this is an assumption, could be different way around, but I doubt it)
- All other lesbians his opinion is undefined
What exactly is objectionable about this? I don't like man-hating lesbians either, in fact I dislike all persons discriminating me because of my gender. And I don't see why I should have a uniform opinion on all other lesbians. Anything other than undefined would be prejudiced, wouldn't it? So, what exactly is your problem here? That he likes porn-lesbians? Should he discriminate them instead for their free choice of job?
Registered IRC nick on chat.soylentnews.org: qkontinuum
(Score: 3, Touché) by Kell on Tuesday January 26 2016, @02:09AM
Hey, http - I'm a bit confused here. You've got a clearly non-trollish posting history, but something here has you very riled up (presumably the GP's comment that lesbians?). Others have already commented about the invective of your post, but I'm of the opinion that you're trying to be productive and affect change. Here are some points to consider:
* Be clear about what your complaint is about - lots of people (myself included) are somewhat unsure about what you are unhappy about.
* Everyone will agree that stereotypes are limiting, but you seem to imply that "stereotypical" men are suspicious. Clearly the stereotype is prejudiced - society would not function if males were untrusted.
* "Violence" is taken to have a specific meaning, pertaining to physical injury (see also "trauma", "abuse"). While some groups would argue that mental injury is just as relevant as physical injury (and thus termed violence), nobody else uses the language in that way. When mental injury is intended, then it would be better to prefix it with mental- so that people know what you're talking about.
* Don't presuppose what the other party will say - maybe you misunderstood them, or maybe they are more complex than expected. Calling out predicted response just makes them feel like you've prejudged them. That leaves no scope for them to change or grow or compromise. Would they not simply defy your expectation by refusing to defend and instead attack? Rather than making things adversarial, why not draw them into your view and build empathy?
For example, I think something like this would be more effective at getting the change you're trying to make: "Talking like that is part of why some women view men with suspicion, and I don't like that many women respond to me like that. We'll all be better off if we don't foster trust issues."
Scientists ask questions. Engineers solve problems.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 26 2016, @07:38AM
You are trying to reason with someone (http) who holds unreasonable beliefs that do not reflect reality. This is folly.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 25 2016, @08:25PM
"Porn lesbians" aren't, you dumb bastard. Have you ever paid close attention to what is going on in so-called "lesbian porn?" Those women have no idea, *none,* what they're doing and moreover they very clearly don't like it. They are bored straight or "bi-curious" women who are trying to make some extra money pandering to people like you who, just guessing here, ALSO have no idea what to do with you tongue and lips and fingers between a woman's thighs.
You know what you call a lesbian with a french manicure? *SINGLE.* Ow, ow, ow, ow.
Not to mention? NO ONE looks like that in real life. I'm technically femme if not outright lipstick, but it would take hours to get that kind of appearance and it would not last more than a few minutes in a really intense lovemaking session. This stuff is a straight guy's idea of what lesbian sex looks like.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Funny) by Phoenix666 on Monday January 25 2016, @09:26PM
No kidding. With real lesbians there's far too much talking and oddly timed non-sequiturs about how much they like each other's socks.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 25 2016, @09:37PM
Uh...okay, sample size of only two partners here, but socks *never* entered the equation for more than a few seconds for me. Is this an inside joke or what...?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Monday January 25 2016, @09:55PM
Actually, no. It's sometimes funny to use such stereotypes, but not necessarily accurate.
Here the short summary of a bouncers experience [blog.fefe.de], unfortunately only in German.
Roughly translated:
A friend of mine who was is also a lesbian was my best buddy for some time, because she was the first to get into middle of the crowd on beasty-boys or other punk-concerts. Most of my male buddies bailed out much earlier. I never saw her maliciously violent though. I think she would be the type of person to step and help victims, but could not imagine her violating anyone otherwise.
Her girlfriend is a much more silent type, I couldn't imagine her on such a concert. (But I might be wrong, never had the occasion to find out.)
Registered IRC nick on chat.soylentnews.org: qkontinuum
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 25 2016, @10:17PM
Eh, it's a not-so-secret-shame that gay women have the highest rate of reported DV incidents (whether we actually have the highest REAL DV is another matter...). To be honest, I think the really, really butch ones are probably FtM but, because of how gender roles work, "punching up" and acting male is somewhat less of a problem for them than for an MtF to present and act female. And that includes the associated proclivity for violence. I've never dated a butch, though one of my exes did butch up a LOT after high school.
I never really did get the point of the stone-butch or stud look, but there are just as many people who will call me a panderer or "she's secretly bi hurr hurr" for being a femme who dates other femmes (because liking women who look like women makes me LESS GAY than liking women who look a lot like men...) *shrug.* Sexual politics is stupid as hell.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Kell on Tuesday January 26 2016, @03:38AM
It seems a lot of people don't get that gender preference can be a 3D surface plot - sexual characteristics along one axis, and social characteristics along another axis, height given by degree of preference. For example, some people prefer feminine males vs masculine males, or feminine females vs masculine females or somewhere along the gradients in between. It can have multiple peaks or isoclines or even change from day to day depending on mood.
The prevailing gender/social binary of masculine-men/feminine-women is doesn't come close to capturing the full diversity of human sexual behaviour.
Scientists ask questions. Engineers solve problems.
(Score: 2) by Geotti on Tuesday January 26 2016, @01:10PM
she's secretly bi hurr hurr
What a load of shit. Does anyone with actual experience really believe there are people who are 100% gay or straight?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 26 2016, @04:55PM
Well, I haven't found a man yet I'm attracted to. Not saying it could never happen, but people show me this or that guy who's supposed to be the hottest man on the planet and it's like "Well...he's in good shape but...so?" The idea of doing it with a guy just doesn't "click" with me. I'm not grossed out exactly, and not scared of the idea, it just doesn't register.
And before you ask, no, I was never abused or raped...though, amusingly, men half a foot shorter than me and probably barely heavier have threatened to "rape me straight." Know who was? My sister. My straight as an arrow (so far as I can tell) sister.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Geotti on Thursday January 28 2016, @05:41PM
What I'm saying is that I believe attraction to someone has to do more with the person inside, not his/her body. Then, sexual attraction is a special flavor, where many factors (and moods) combine to form a (more or less) strong desire.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 26 2016, @08:36PM
Are you so closed-minded that you're willing to say that there is no one who is 100% gay or straight in a world with 7 billion people?
(Score: 2) by Geotti on Thursday January 28 2016, @05:36PM
Quite the opposite, don't be a fool.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 25 2016, @10:42PM
Three words: Amateur. Lesbian. Porn.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 25 2016, @11:02PM
Meh. I tend to prefer stories or my own imagination honestly. Yes, amateur stuff (if it actually is amateur) is less fake at least. I like drawn things too since you can follow your ships :)
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 26 2016, @12:35AM
Naruto/Hinata FTW
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 26 2016, @01:23AM
I've never watched that show but isn't Naruto a dude? That's not yuri (f/f) so i'm not likely to go searching out drawings or writings about it. Rather think: Anthy/Utena, S. Jupiter/S. Mercury, and similar. Bonus is that those two are basically canon, bar a scrolling text loop that says "yes these two are an item."
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...