"We have spent the last 50 years fighting for equality for everyone and these laws are discriminatory which XHamster.com does not tolerate," Kulich told The Huffington Post. "Judging by the stats of what you North Carolinians watch, we feel this punishment is a severe one. We will not standby and pump revenue into a system that promotes this type of garbage. We respect all sexualities and embrace them."
After laughing for about 5 minutes, I started to wonder if this is really effective or not. What do you other Soylentils think? Effective protest measure, or not? Whatever happens, I think the tension level in North Carolina just went up a bit.
Also covered at CNN.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 12 2016, @01:35PM
Honestly though, if you look like a guy use the guys room, no one can see you in the stall they'll just think you're taking a crap. If you look like a women, use the ladies room, no one can see you in the stall, just don't leave the seat up.
I disagree. People regularly gender me female. However, I simply don't feel safe in the women's room because of feminism. No, I doubt I would get beat up, but I don't need a feminist demanding a business owner eject me from a restaurant and trying to press charges against me for attempted rape. Now that we've got Apache attack copters on the loose, I have even more reasons to feel unsafe using the women's room.
I've been using the men's room since I started transition 15 or so years ago. It's my own little protest against the hysteria we see surrounding gender transition. It comes from both feminism and conservatives. Both movements are dead-set on a.) ignoring the existence of female to males b.) portraying male to females in the most voyeuristic and degrading way possible. In particular, both feminism and conservatism have hard-ons for this narrative that only somebody who is mentally ill could want to live as a woman.
Of course, neither world view wants female equality. Feminism believes that there is something metaphysical about a womyn-born-womyn's bodily/animal functions and that this makes womyn-born-womyn naturally superior, "complete" beings. The rest of us just "owe" something to them and mustn't speak unless spoken to. I'm a live/let-live kind of person, and I was disappointed when the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival shut down. I like it better when womyn-born-womyn are up front and honest about their bigotry. I simply have no idea why I would want to hang out with somebody whose identity is so wrapped up in their animal functions.
As far as conservatism goes, again, whatever floats your boat. There are a lot of women who want traditional gender roles. Women have shown that they simply are not ready for a world where a woman can be the breadwinner and a man can be the homemaker, and many women argue that it's not proper for a young woman to get too far with a career before settling down and having children. I am not a womyn-born-womyn so it has nothing to do with me and needs to have nothing to do with me.
I realize my presence in the men's room greatly irritates most men, especially if I need to do something like fix my hair. Usually if I'm wearing a skirt I'll use a stall, but if I'm presenting as male, I mean, when you gotta go you gotta go--it's not glamorous, just whip it out and take care of business. I'm not trying to hide anything. I've had guys walk into the men's room and sheepishly apologize and do an about-face only to realize that they didn't make a mistake. I have no intention of budging on this until a lot of people very publicly admit that they were willfully ignorant on these matters. There is nothing special that happens in the women's room I need to have any part of; there's just a different set of disgusting odors.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday April 12 2016, @01:54PM
Apache attack copters
Is this a new slang term? And if so who does it refer to?
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 12 2016, @01:59PM
It refers to the trolls who try to derail any discussion about equal rights for trans people with terms such as "I identify as an Apache attack helicopter".
(Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday April 12 2016, @02:19PM
That'd be me. whup-whup-whup fwoosh fwoosh brrrrrrrt!
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday April 12 2016, @02:39PM
Stop oppressing me, copter-phobic mod!
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by BK on Tuesday April 12 2016, @04:27PM
I guess this finally settles the question of who is to blame and why...?
...but you HAVE heard of me.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday April 12 2016, @07:07PM
>settles the question of who is to blame
The mighty buzzard is two blade.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 12 2016, @08:48PM
Apache attack copters
Is this a new slang term? And if so who does it refer to?
It's argument ad absurdum about the dangers of allowing arbitrary "identities" defined by sexual preferences, which takes "gender identity" and applies the Internet's Rule 34. [knowyourmeme.com]
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
This parody of "misgendering argumentation" was originally spammed ingame in TF2 whenever SJWs started bitching about gender identity rather than playing the fucking game.
Would you like to know more? [knowyourmeme.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 12 2016, @09:41PM
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-sexually-identify-as-an-attack-helicopter [knowyourmeme.com]
(Score: 2) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday April 12 2016, @01:59PM
This is a bold face lie. We know women go to the washroom in groups because they have they're secret world domination communication equipment in there and they're going to report back to HQ. As for the reason men get agitated when women are in the men's room, it's because we know you're looking for our commutations gear. Don't deny it -_-
In seriousness, I'm sorry you feel like that. It's awful that some extreme feminist have basically become as some extreme conservatives. I'm pretty anti-feminist myself now because of how feminist treat men in general. Although I have to refuse to believe it's all of them. I think most people who would consider themselves feminist are good people, they just aren't as vocal as the assholes, same for conservatives. People can be pretty awful regardless of what ideology or politics they follow, but they don't make up the majority.
"Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday April 12 2016, @02:25PM
Welcome to GamerGate, you misogynist, MRA scum. You may not have any interest in it yourself but you'll be branded a member by feminists from now on for daring to disagree with their hate speech. The sodas and cheetos are on the table over between the PS4 and the XBOX One.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday April 12 2016, @02:35PM
Sadly, I've been here the whole time ;_;
"Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Tuesday April 12 2016, @02:02PM
One of my childhood friends is the homemaker while his wife is the breadwinner. I don't know of anyone having a problem with it.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 12 2016, @02:55PM
Personally, I get tired of eating bread. Who is brining home the bacon?
We're gonna be able to vacation in Gaza, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and maybe Minnesota soon. Incredible times.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday April 12 2016, @02:55PM
Sadly, My cousin is the homemaker and his wife is the breadwinner in their family and he's told me of lots of groups/people that have a problem with it. He found a play group that met in our area online and took his daughter, but was asked not to come back because he made the other women feel unconformable. Was denied entry into a tots movie because there were concerns for the women who were breastfeeding. Has had men bully and degrade him for not wearing the pants and had women tell him only mothers are qualified to know what their baby needs.
Although I wasn't a stay at home Dad I'd be lying if I said I hadn't gotten the stink eye a few times for taking my daughter places that I ended up feeling really unwelcome at. I had my 4 year old for her first ballet lesson last night and had to sit in a cramped waiting room with six very angry looking mothers, at first. I learned my lesson early on, never travel without a box of chocolates or candies, put those suckers out on a table then back away to a corner slowly and keep your head down and you're likely to walk away with all your limbs intact.
Maybe it's just our respective parts of the world, but I though Canada was much more progressive than I've found it to be. My cousin never gave up and is on his second kid now, it's a good thing too. He was eventually able to find groups and activities that did allow fathers because they were groups formed by fathers shunned by other groups. Most groups are setup for mother and are respectful / concerned / focused on their privacy and safety, and to some degree I understand and agree with that. My wife breast fed and sometimes they (women) just don't want to be concerned if some guy is ogling them and/or if they have the privacy blanket on the right way or if they've flashed people, but it's pretty undeniable most baby (infant, less so with toddlers) focused activities are setup with the assumption it's the mother and the baby and they're set up for the mother's comfort.
"Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
(Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Tuesday April 12 2016, @04:12PM
Wow. I've not experienced any of that in the UK. I'm not the primary caregiver in my little family unit, but I do plenty of school runs, birthday parties, children's centres, extracurricular activities etc and never run into any problems. In my experience women fully accept that Dads can (should) go places and do stuff with the kids, and I chat with the Mums at the school gate just like anyone else. The main difference seems to be that the society among the women at the school gates seems to mirror that in the playground, in that it's rife with petty bullying and gossip. The Dads don't get involved with any of that shit; they exchange pleasantries, drop the kids off and that's it.
As for breastfeeding, women who breastfeed here all seem to accept that if they don't want their boobs seen, they need to either go somewhere private or cover up. You do run into the odd one or two who don't care and will openly expose the entire breast (minus the bits covered by abbay, obviously). However the reaction to them is about the same as it is for those who cover themselves - The vast majority of men seem to accept that the polite thing to do when faced with a breastfeeding woman is to nervously maintain unwavering, slightly awkward eye-contact and definitely not talk about tits until such time as an excuse can be found to get the hell out of that conversation and/or look at a TV instead. It might not be ideal but ladies, we are trying our best.
(Score: 2) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday April 12 2016, @05:15PM
Which is part of the appeal to women only groups where they can unwind and let the ladies hang out without men standing around making it awkward.
I'm not really sure where the big issue with breastfeeding is. Maybe it's just because I'm married and realize breast are just bags-o-fat and it seems strange we're drawn to them. But I've NEVER seen a man tell a women she can't breastfeed in public. The only time it ever happened to my wife was at a truck stop where we'd been driving for three hours when another women told my wife to have some modesty... and that didn't end too well for the other lady.
It really feels most of the controversy over it comes partly from insecurity, because let's admit it women are told they have to cover their breasts their whole lives, then when the actual intended purpose comes along it feel strange just to pull a tit out in public and stuff it in a babies mouth.
And partly from prudes, who might be insecure about their own bodies, or just grew up in a different time.
On the topic of fathers, there are cases where I have no issues, like picking my kid up or dropping her off at daycare or when I take her to the Home Depot build events (kids make cheap little wooden toys from kits). But there are places I've been made really uncomfortable, like I said with the ballet lessons last night and once in a family change room at the local swimming pool when some women told me I couldn't take my daughter into the change cubical because she didn't trust me... and management ended up getting involved... and a life guard... and a janitor... Man that was really awkward, I still just can't bring myself to go back so my wife takes our daughter to swimming lessons now, which is why I do ballet with her... which only feels ever so slightly less awkward.
"Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
(Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Wednesday April 13 2016, @09:05AM
> in a family change room at the local swimming pool when some women told me I couldn't take my daughter into the change cubical because she didn't trust me
Holy shit, that is some weapons-grade stupid right there. I'd like to think I'd verbally tear that ignorant pissflap a new one right there and then, but until and unless it happens to me I'm just ITGing.
It might be difficult but I think you need to make a point of going back there. Stand your ground, and have a raft of counter arguments (backed up by knowledge of relevant anti-discrimination legislation) behind you. If the pool management themselves come down against you, take it to the local press. "Local pool denies man right to take his daughter swimming" is something they do not want to see on the front page of the Hoth Chronicle. More to the point, people need to know when their local amenities are being run by brain-dead, reactionary twats.
(Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 13 2016, @02:06PM
Interesting. I'm a father of 8 kids and pretty well involved in their lives and I've seen a bit of that. But when I take my daughters to ballet noone bats an eye. Of course, I don't try to interact with the other kids. I can see why people would be a bit weirded out about a man they don't know talking to their kids.
In fact, there's a number of women out there who get all gushy when they see an involved father. I avoid those women like the plague because they seem like relationship accidents waiting to happen. I already have one women in love with me (my wife), and I don't need to pick up some woman who falls in love with a stranger because he seems like prince charming simply for burning the gas to ferry his kids around. I also don't need to have conversations with them about my parenting choices, which seems to be another way some women like to bond. Nope, best to stick to my laptop and do something technical or read an ebook and/or IM with my wife till time to go home.
As for breastfeeding I'm surprised to hear there are women who want privacy for that - most of what I've read has been militant pro-breastfeeders who want to be able to breastfeed anywhere in front of anyone, shame men for perceiving breasts sexually and want to rewrite that fact as a product of cultural conditioning rather than biology, want formula companies put out of business and forbidden to give away free formula at hospitals, want my wife who had breast surgery to starve our kids to death trying to breastfeed them rather than using a bottle, and would file a lawsuit in a heartbeat if a starbucks or any place of business dared ask a woman to cover up. In the wild usually when I've noticed a woman nursing there hasn't been anything to see, but I can see why a woman would want privacy; I just haven't heard that attitude expressed much because mostly I've heard people turning it into a political football.
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