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[...] The Emojipedia website argued that the symbol could still appear as a lifelike gun in messages sent to non-iOS users. Apple made the change in the wake of a series of shootings in the US.
However, Microsoft announced this week that its toy gun symbol would be redesigned as a more realistic-looking firearm. The emoji character system allows companies to use slightly different designs of the same basic objects, signs or expressions.
"The thing is, emojis already look different on different platforms and it does cause confusion," Jeremy Burge, editor of Emojipedia, told the BBC. "When we're dealing with guns and toys as a comparison, that's a whole new level of problems that we have there."
[...] "Apple has the most prominent emoji set that people use," said Mr Burge. "I think it has a high responsibility to be a bit cautious."
There was further criticism from web users, but a columnist in the Guardian praised the move as a statement on gun control.
"It's a smart, small part in the battle - which we're presently losing - to keep Americans safe," wrote Jean Hannah Edelstein. There have been calls previously - including from a campaign called Disarm the iPhone - to remove the handgun icon from iOS devices.
[...] Both Apple and Microsoft have said they are working with the Unicode Consortium - the body that maintains lists of emojis across different platforms.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 07 2016, @04:59AM
This entire discussion is just a metaphor for transforming society from a potent force, into a wimpy dream.
I'm going to buy my defensive radar from Temu, just like Venezuela!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Sunday August 07 2016, @05:17AM
Change the gun emoji to a penis. That would change it from an X-rated symbol to a mere R-rated sym--- wait, the penis is the X-rated one? Isn't that backwards?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 07 2016, @05:44AM
"Isn't that backwards?"
As far as I know, human penises have always been forwards.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday August 07 2016, @02:17PM
You did not get the memo?
Zardoz: Zardoz speaks to you, His chosen ones.
Exterminators: We are the chosen ones!
Zardoz: You have been raised up from Brutality, to kill the Brutals who multiply, and are legion. To this end, Zardoz your God gave you the gift of the Gun. The Gun is good!
Exterminators: The Gun is good!
Zardoz: The Penis is evil! The Penis shoots Seeds, and makes new Life to poison the Earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the Gun shoots Death and purifies the Earth of the filth of Brutals. Go forth, and kill! Zardoz has spoken.
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(Score: 1) by ShadowSystems on Sunday August 07 2016, @05:43AM
I've always wondered what's a meta for...
*Runs away before you can whack me with a dead fish*
=-D
(Score: 2) by ticho on Sunday August 07 2016, @08:11AM
I'm not sure, but I think that emoji is built around the mIRC desktop icon.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday August 07 2016, @06:36AM
Your choice of words is so very, very revealing. Fear of "impotence," I see. What kind of dream, precisely, a wet dream?
For the record I think Apple is being idiotic, but I'm almost tempted to support them in this now JUST because it gives people like you ridiculous conniption fits.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 07 2016, @07:59AM
Your choice of words is so very, very revealing.
Sounds worse than pseudoscience.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday August 07 2016, @09:28AM
In my lexicon, "wimp" is quite a bit different to "limp", you know?
I wonder how telling is dragging that word into sexual context? (ummm... "telling about what" is another legit question)
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday August 07 2016, @06:57PM
Look at his post history; words like "emasculate" come up in conversations that nothing whatsoever to do with, for example, neutering pets. I've always been amused by how a certain type of man--it's ALWAYS a man!--sees everything on the national and societal level through the lens of macho, Iron-Age sexual "values." To me, this speaks of 1) deep personal anxiety and 2) a frankly dangerous, one-sided view of sexuality.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Sunday August 07 2016, @09:42PM
It is a common, if not universal, aspect of fascism to worry about the alleged loss of masculinity. From Heidegger to Yukio Mishima, there is a constant complaint that men are being femininized. Mishima reported that in Chinese medicine it used to be possible to differentiate the gender of a person from the pulse alone, but now-a-days men and women have the same pulse. And probably use the same emojis!
The fascist worship of the military is probably a part of this. But the whole "manly men" usually takes a decidedly homoerotic turn rather quickly, and becomes misogynist. Mussolini's masculine ideal fits right in here.
on the one side the cowardly, the soft, the hysterical, the effeminate, the cry-babies, the mommy's boys; on the other the strong, the aware, the idealists, the mystics of danger, those who triumph over fear and those who are courageous by nature, the hot-blooded heroes and the heroes of the will."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_of_masculinity_under_fascist_Italy
So the "wimp" and "limp" distinction is not significant for fascists and their fellow travellers, the gamergaters, Sad Puppies, Orson Scott Card and Scott Adams.
And if any Americans are reading this, more interesting words from the Italian Fascists!
As per issues involving masculinity, fascist rhetoric advocated for misogynistic, homophobic, and virilistic values in their campaign during the 1920s and made direct references as to the accepted and unaccepted gender codes, as explained in this passage:
"The deviant male was above all a bourgeois, egoistic and unpatriotic as well as scarcely virile (because he was unfit or reluctant to repeatedly impregnate the female); the deviant female was the too 'modern' woman, Americanized, independent and masculinized. The social damages provoked by these two converging deviants were most serious: a widespread and 'excessive loosening of family hierarchical relations, a decline in the main of that robust virility that fascism, with much love and perseverance, pursues in other ways"
opere citato
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday August 07 2016, @11:58PM
Half-godwining the thread, are you?
However, you are most sinning against the logic. "Fascists promoted masculinity, A is nostalgic about masculinity, therefore A is fascist", is that what you are saying in great lengths with opera citato? Really, magister?
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As it happens, I have the entire collection of Bond movies. Pop culture, especially movies, is a great way to assess the evolution of morals over time.
Let me offer you some citations [youtube.com] about the era. By your measure, wasn't America fascist in this era?
You know? This era [youtube.com].
An era which the women needed to fight dirty [wikipedia.org] their way, or work physical demanding jobs to support herself to dance in a style which exposes every bits of her femininity [youtube.com] (safe for work, kids)
The first movie series I remember in which the protagonist had a woman as his boss and lost every fist fight was "Moonlighting" - yes, the "Die hard" Bruce Willis character took it at least one in every episode -'twas second half of the '80-ies, folks.
Finally, everybody grows old, you can choose how to do it, though [wikipedia.org]. Make sure you remember it when you have no country [wikipedia.org]
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday August 07 2016, @10:36PM
Factor into this the use of Internet... you know?.... the place where men are men, women are men and children are FBI agents.
The same place where Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory applies.
Seems the two should increase the error bars in your analysis.
(besides, let a man grieve over his prostatitis, there will come a time he'll accept it...
... grin... large grin...)
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday August 07 2016, @07:39AM
Consider the world as a single system, since it already is.
The system has pulled a systemd and rendered society an interdependent mess, so that population is under control. You want to secede? good luck with starving into irrelevancy, in a way that makes north korea look a tourist resort. Now be good and obey your new transnational directives.
It is the same system who pushed for communism, fascism, the '68, mind you. First they use ideals to destroy now they do not need any ideal to rebuild. Since we are under control, we should now accept the system and behave like good sheeple. Atomized families and of course new tech. "Your son, which you two insisted on having with dangerous natural means which put your health at risk, displays terrorist character traits. Under the new directives we have edited them out, whose account can we charge?"
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 07 2016, @09:19AM
This entire discussion is just a metaphor for transforming society from a potent force, into a wimpy dream.
I had a dream. It was a dream where I had a potent force, and Runaway was trying to run away, but I caught him in a metaphor and he was all wimpy in my dream. Then I woke up. But there was an ammosexual emoji lying next to me in the bed! ARGGGHHHHH! I will never be able to get those images out of my head, or the emoji stains out of the sheets.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday August 07 2016, @09:32AM
You can always cut and discard the tainted part, no?
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford