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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday September 14 2016, @01:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the interesting-but-not-surprising dept.

Three of the four major candidates for United States president have responded to America's Top 20 Presidential Science, Engineering, Technology, Health and Environmental Questions. The nonprofit advocacy group ScienceDebate.org has posted their responses online. Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and Jill Stein had all responded as of press time, and the group was awaiting responses from Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by LaminatorX on Wednesday September 14 2016, @03:46PM

    by LaminatorX (14) <laminatorxNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Wednesday September 14 2016, @03:46PM (#401849)

    The rise of the original Republicans isn't really comparable to what we have today though. The key thing that allowed Lincoln to triumph in 1860 was that not only had the Whigs ceased to exist and been replaced by the Republicans and the Constitutional Unionists, but the Democratic Party was also fractured, held two conventions, and fielded two rival claimants as the Democratic Party nominee. It was a four-way race with no unified establishment party on the field.

    No current political movement or issue is capable of fracturing one of the current parties to that extreme extent, let alone both of them at once. A split in the Republican party between the Trump-ists & the Koch-Brothers-and-Bible-Thumpers coalition might happen, you can see that in the in-fighting between the House Freedom Caucus and Speaker Ryan.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @09:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @09:03PM (#402008)

    No current political movement or issue is capable of fracturing one of the current parties

    Let me start by reminding everyone that, this election cycle, The Big 2 have offered us the most-disliked candidates in USA history.

    ...and some good news: The Green Party has qualified for the ballot in 44 states (plus DC) and there are 3 more states that will count your write-in vote for Dr. Stein.
    Graphic here [jill2016.com]
    I recommend View + No Style (Blinking text)

    If you want to hear Jill speaking, Eric Mann interviewed her this month.
    The interview is from 3:30 - 38:00 (64 percent of the download) [kpfk.org]
    From 38:00 - 46:30 is Eric commenting (80 percent)
    46:30 - 50:00 KPFK stuff & L.A. Stuff
    50:00 - 54:00 is about NYPD & NYC's pseudo-Progressive mayor
    54:00 - 55:00 Nina Simone sings

    .
    For many decades, most USAians have gotten their "information" via TeeVee.
    As long as access to privately-owned media remains expensive, there is minimal chance for a non-Red and non-Blue candidate to get his message out that way.

    We should mention that, before Reagan, TV and radio stations were considered to be held by private parties "in the public interest" and they were required to present programming which was balanced and served to inform The People by airing differing views.
    You won't hear that on Lamestream Media these days.

    Amusingly, there's a "public" radio station in SoCal that has a program they call Left, Right, & Center. [archive.li][1]
    I tried to listen to it and what I heard was Clearly-Right, Very-Right, and Extremely-Right.

    Ralph Nader notes that 2 Reactionaries have gotten more air time than a whole slew of thinkers whose ideas you *should* be hearing. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [commondreams.org]

    [1] The S/N comments engine still NEEDLESSLY fucks with punctuation in URLs.

    .
    What is needed to straighten out the USA is a constitutional amendment.

    Some folks advocate for one that says "Money is not speech and corporations are not people".

    I recently heard Ralph Nader (who has run numerous times as a 3rd-party candidate) specify a better amendment:
    All public elections will be publicly financed.

    Playing field leveled.

    .
    Additionally, Thomas Jefferson advocated a constitutional convention once a generation to review|upgrade|replace that document.
    Getting rid of vestiges of 18th Century Plutocracy such as the Electoral College seems apt.
    A ranked voting ballot and uniform voting|registration[2] laws across all the states also seem like great ideas.
    Making Election Day a national holiday seems intelligent.

    A bunch of other countries have a bunch of great ideas.
    USA needs to pay attention.

    [2] Even better: No registration at all; you're automatically registered on your 18th birthday.

    -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday September 15 2016, @04:01AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 15 2016, @04:01AM (#402127) Journal

    No current political movement or issue is capable of fracturing one of the current parties to that extreme extent, let alone both of them at once.

    Right now maybe. But both parties are fracturing.

    A split in the Republican party between the Trump-ists & the Koch-Brothers-and-Bible-Thumpers coalition might happen

    I'd say the most significant split is between those members with political or economic power ("establishment") and their marginalized followers. Same goes for the Democrat party side.