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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday September 14 2016, @01:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the interesting-but-not-surprising dept.

Three of the four major candidates for United States president have responded to America's Top 20 Presidential Science, Engineering, Technology, Health and Environmental Questions. The nonprofit advocacy group ScienceDebate.org has posted their responses online. Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and Jill Stein had all responded as of press time, and the group was awaiting responses from Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson.


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  • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Wednesday September 14 2016, @09:34PM

    by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday September 14 2016, @09:34PM (#402018)

    For every MBA encouraging taking shortcuts, there's an engineer and\or an independent contractor signing off plans & work they know to be unsafe and a dozen workers cutting short their end-of-shift inspections to rush home.

    You want safety at work places? Put a camera at every work stations and stream it to the open internet. Not to a manager's office or a select group of government safety inspectors that can be bribed. Better yet, set-up a bounty system where a citizen can send a complaint with a time stamped picture and get rewarded financially from the offending party.

    Make industry go through the same 1984 style surveillance motorists went through, and I assure that just like how people used to run at red lights and then stopped because of traffic cameras, so will industry stop cutting corners and paying bribes.

    You can't change human nature. You can place enough incentives, checks & balances in oppositions to corruption and let greed take it's natural course.

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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday September 15 2016, @02:18PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 15 2016, @02:18PM (#402276) Journal

    I doubt the people at the lower levels want to sign off on work they know to be unsafe.

    So why would that happen?

    Because they are pressured or coerced into doing so. And who is pressuring the 'grunts' to sign off on unsafe work? Those up the chain of penny pinching management that's who.

    If you don't sign off on this unsafe work, I'll replace you with someone who will.

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    • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Friday September 16 2016, @12:08AM

      by RamiK (1813) on Friday September 16 2016, @12:08AM (#402538)

      I doubt the people at the lower levels want to sign off on work they know to be unsafe.

      They do it all the time. It's a way to look like a team player. It's a way to get off inspections and cut the shift short.

      High and low, humans are stupid. Those at the top just get more chances to REALLY fuck things up.

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      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday September 16 2016, @07:28PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 16 2016, @07:28PM (#402908) Journal

        > It's a way to look like a team player.

        That just repeats what I said about: Because they are pressured or coerced into doing so.
        Although it may be their direct co-workers.

        The culture needs to be that if it isn't safe, being a team player is to report it and not sign off on it. It's only the MBAs that want it to get done NOW. When the shift ends, the shift ends. Whether something you are inspecting is safe or not should not affect an inspector's shift.

        Inspectors of all people would not sign off on unsafe work unless under pressure to do so.

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  • (Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Thursday September 15 2016, @09:14PM

    by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Thursday September 15 2016, @09:14PM (#402481)

    You want safety at work places? Put a camera at every work stations and stream it to the open internet. Not to a manager's office or a select group of government safety inspectors that can be bribed....You can't change human nature. You can place enough incentives, checks & balances in oppositions to corruption and let greed take it's natural course.

    Then you get complaints and voter outrage about government regulations hurting business...