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posted by martyb on Saturday October 29 2016, @09:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the VERY-stiff-upper-lip dept.

"A former soldier cut off two of his gangrene-ridden toes with a pair of tin metal pliers without anesthetic in his living room after becoming frustrated at a six-week delay to being operated on by the National Health Service (NHS)."

[...] "He says he eventually developed gangrene and his doctor said his infected toes would have to be removed. Rather than wait six weeks for the operation, Dibbins took matters into his own hands.

He says the operation, performed without pain killers and in his living room while biting on a rolled up towel, took about an hour. His wife of 40 years was in the house but says she did not want to look.

“Knowing that it would take at least another six weeks to get me in front of a surgeon again, that’s when I bit the bullet and cut off the toes,” Dibbins told the North Devon Journal.

“I did it because it’s what had to be done. My doctor told me my toes were going to kill me."

https://www.rt.com/uk/364152-gangrene-frostbite-toes-cut/


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by PizzaRollPlinkett on Saturday October 29 2016, @10:18PM

    by PizzaRollPlinkett (4512) on Saturday October 29 2016, @10:18PM (#420288)

    When did RT (Russia Times) become a credible news source? I've seen some of their literally LOL features on YouTube.

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    • (Score: 2) by edIII on Saturday October 29 2016, @11:53PM

      by edIII (791) on Saturday October 29 2016, @11:53PM (#420360)

      Everyone, but that last one could be a point in your favor :)

      I think they got one fact wrong, or I'm even more impressed with this gentleman's ability to make do with less.

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    • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Sunday October 30 2016, @01:27AM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday October 30 2016, @01:27AM (#420400) Journal

      Do you hear that sound? That is the sound of an echo chamber. SoylentNews should not be part of it.

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    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday October 30 2016, @09:45AM

      by sjames (2882) on Sunday October 30 2016, @09:45AM (#420466) Journal

      Even the best of them presents an illogical story.

      We seem to have:

      1. Frostbite on toes
      2. In hospital to get right leg amputated below the knee.
      3. Surgery cancelled due to another patient having complications
      4. Given leave to care for himself until toes get bad
      5. Six months later, Toes get bad, told it's 6 weeks till a surgery
      6. decides to keep leg?, self-amputate toes

      So was his leg to be amputated for funsies? Apparently so if his foot healed up after removing his toes.

      Did he use nail clippers or tin snips? They can't seem to agree.

      He waited 6 months of his own accord, why so burned up over a few more weeks when a doctor says it's OK?

      • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Sunday October 30 2016, @05:05PM

        by RamiK (1813) on Sunday October 30 2016, @05:05PM (#420557)

        So was his leg to be amputated for funsies? Apparently so if his foot healed up after removing his toes.

        Ask his doctors. Maybe he had a second opinion. Maybe some other measure was effective. But diabetes has lots of "scheduled for amputation unless a patient makes life-style change in 10 month" procedures. I remember hearing very few patients diet down their weight as instructed and end up requiring the operation.

        Did he use nail clippers or tin snips? They can't seem to agree.

        Depends on where they did the photo-shoot and who wrote the story. If he was interviewed at his home then he probably showed what he used in the picture and then the journalists just wrote whatever they thought it was. If he traveled to a studio, they probably picked up something off the shelf and shot that.

        He waited 6 months of his own accord, why so burned up over a few more weeks when a doctor says it's OK?

        I'm guessing the doctor's tone and a sense of emergency rubbed him the wrong way? Don't know. Wasn't there.

        Overall, I wouldn't get too hung up on second and third source details. There's a reason the courts call it hearsay and dismiss it.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @03:45AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @03:45AM (#422362)

      Of those listed, I didn't recognise the last one and I would only expect the independent to be a reasonable source, however even the story they present isn't very credible as it is based entirely on the word of the guy who cut off his own toe. But even the best newspapers aren't to be trusted uncritically, they all publish bad stories.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday October 29 2016, @11:27PM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday October 29 2016, @11:27PM (#420335) Homepage

    I was going to mod you down, but I'll comment instead using an underwear analogy - If you must wear a pair of dirty underwear, you generally wear the least dirty and stinky pair you can find. Or you can choose not to wear underwear at all.

    RT was never terrific, it's just that everybody else became so much worse. The disgusting level of political collusion in the American media has reached Soviet-levels of misdirection and disinformation -- and as a voracious news junkie and former fan of the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, I'm terribly saddened by the current state of American media and am pretty damn-well convinced that there is a mass-organized collusion between government elements and news personnel, possibly even confidential plants.

    Of course RT, Sputnik, Drudge, and Breitbart are biased, but they are still explaining what is going on our there. The others are not. RT in particular has the moral high-ground because their war-weary sentiment echoes what the people (and not the assholes lording over them) are feeling. Russia is not the big bad-guy in the world anymore -- we, NATO, the EU bureaucrats, and the duplicitous shitheads at the UN are.

    Only a few years ago people called me crazy for saying that the NSA is spying on everybody, and look what happened - when stuff like that occurs, it validates "conspiracy theory" websites such as Infowars.

    As for me, I'm rubbing my hands together like a fly on a fresh steaming pile of shit anticipating Hillary's demise. Perhaps proof that the crooked psychotic State Department gave stinger missiles to terrorists without congressional approval, and that one or more of those were used against US troops or civilians.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30 2016, @12:34AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30 2016, @12:34AM (#420380)

      Only a few years ago people called me crazy for saying that the NSA is spying on everybody,

      No they weren't. When Snowden came out with his revelations my reaction was that that was just confirming what any reasonably intelligent person would've assumed was happening already.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday October 30 2016, @12:49AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday October 30 2016, @12:49AM (#420386) Homepage

        Yes, you and I are intelligent enlightened people, I get that. Recall one of Frank Zappa's most famous comments: There are two things that are universal: Hydrogen and stupidity.

        But you'd be surprised how many government bootlickers are amongst us. A girl I dated awhile back actually said verbatim, "Well, if the NSA is spying on everybody, good, because they catch bad guys."

        Yeeeeahhhhhh...no. If something like 9/11 happens on your soil, then it didn't work or those folks are crooked.

        I work for Boston Dynamics, which was acquired by Google, and I can tell you firsthand that people can be simultaneously booksmart and life-stupid.

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30 2016, @01:18AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30 2016, @01:18AM (#420395)

          I also saw all kinds of people dismissing mass surveillance as a mere conspiracy theory before Snowden blew the whistle. And then there are the bootlickers you mention, who actually applaud the unconstitutional democracy-destroying surveillance. I don't see why it would be hard for someone to believe that either group exists.

          Yeeeeahhhhhh...no. If something like 9/11 happens on your soil, then it didn't work or those folks are crooked.

          Not only that, but even if the unconstitutional mass surveillance did increase security, our freedom and our Constitution are more important than security.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30 2016, @12:45AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30 2016, @12:45AM (#420383)

      I'm terribly saddened by the current state of American media and am pretty damn-well convinced that there is a mass-organized collusion between government elements and news personnel, possibly even confidential plants.

      What these organizations are not telling us is they are all monetary failures at this point. They have gone all in on eye ball advertising kool aid. It is all the have left. Hiring people who know what they are doing is expensive. Pundants that talk and talk and talk control the airwaves. As they draw in viewers. Actual news is controlled to fit whatever narrative the boss is contributing to this week. Interns are cheap and 'know the internet'.

      Billionaires have started collecting them like coins. The reality is about 6-8 corporations with major stakeholders of said billionaires are using them to set the agenda they want. The internet has completely changed the landscape of how news is done. In a sea of information only eye catching click bait draws people in. Competition amongst the big ones is low. But the volume of what they spit out is very high. Then they have to compete with every other yonk out there that things putting up a 'blog' or 'tweet' is making news.

      A few years ago you waited until the evening paper. Then the 6/11oclock news to find out what was going on. Then it morphed into 'just turn on CNN and find out'. Now everyone just pops onto reddit or twitter and see what everyone is chatting about. We went from an army of people trying to 'get the scoop' to an army of people trying 'to get the click'.

      Now if you will excuse me I need to find out the top 10 ways my shampoo is killing me and number 8 is supposed to be cray cray.

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday October 30 2016, @12:59AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday October 30 2016, @12:59AM (#420390) Homepage

        What those idiots fail to understand is that even a retard can see what is going on. As an example close to me, the San Diego UT Paper. You see a mouthpiece of conservative establishment go liberal establishment overnight with a new buyer, and of course you're gonna see a death-spiral of subscriptions.

        The conservatives subscribing to your paper consider you a traitor, and the liberals consider you too inconsistent to trust in the long-term.

        Those people like me who prefer to read a dead-tree newspaper every morning will just say, "Fuck it" and go fuck off to the internet where (amazingly) journalism can still live without turning yellow.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30 2016, @03:54AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30 2016, @03:54AM (#420428)

          Our local Buffalo News is owned by Buffet, seems to be holding a steady course. The coverage isn't quite as good as it used to be, but there are still reporters that go out and research stories. No huge change in political outlook, fairly moderate, they often endorse local candidates from different parties.

          Recently a weekend feature is reprinting front pages from 50 years ago (Vietnam war and space-race news are prominent) and the difference is interesting. Back then the front page might have included a dozen stories and more little headlines pointing inside, these days it's more like five or six stories on the front page...in a larger font.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Gaaark on Sunday October 30 2016, @02:43AM

      by Gaaark (41) on Sunday October 30 2016, @02:43AM (#420419) Journal

      ^This!

      Is American media ANY better than, say Russian 'media'? Which one? I find I go to several sites in order to try to read between the lines and get to a truth, but a lot (most)people are sheeple, and they go to CNN and get CNN's 'truth'.

      How is America any different from Russia?

      The land of the free??? Where you can be arrested and held without counsel, Gulag style??
      Where they can't even get an election off the ground without machines that have known 'hack' problems?
      They won't let the Russians observe the election process because they know the Russians will just laugh at their electoral process???

      Where the American agencies spy on its own people?

      Where Trump gets as far as he did?
      Where Hillary gets a pass from the director of the FBI??

      In which ways is America NOT Russia? REALLY!?!?! Please enlighten me!

      I also hope Hillary get fried with these emails. But Trump!

      I say, just declare this election BSOD'd, and reboot it. Put Not Trump up against Not Hillary and let them POLL-style debate.... hand grenade hot potato!

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30 2016, @09:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30 2016, @09:02AM (#420464)

      Only a few years ago people called me crazy for saying that the NSA is spying on everybody, and look what happened - when stuff like that occurs, it validates "conspiracy theory" websites such as Infowars.

      Meh, even a broken clock is right twice a day.