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  • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:22PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:22PM (#498351)

    They are always changing their minds and trying to guzzle down more of that sweet, sweet grant money to pay for their lavish $60k/yr salaries. Wouldn't you rather put your faith in 2000 year old document that contains no errors at all? Put your energy to a higher purpose, like massacring nonbelievers. Plus you can claim the moral high ground in any argument. Perfect certainty, perfect harmony.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:43PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:43PM (#498367)

      Wouldn't you rather put your faith in 2000 year old document that contains no errors at all? Put your energy to a higher purpose, like massacring nonbelievers. Plus you can claim the moral high ground in any argument. Perfect certainty, perfect harmony.

      Is there money to be made in it for the common man?

    • (Score: 2) by SubiculumHammer on Sunday April 23 2017, @04:11PM

      by SubiculumHammer (5191) on Sunday April 23 2017, @04:11PM (#498379)

      mismoderated. sorry.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:57PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:57PM (#498375)

    Here I was, thinking the science of climate change is settled. John Kerry said so. These particular scientists must be some of those merchants of doubt we've been hearing about. Could it be that the carbon cycle is also not really understood, and neither is the precise role of H2O as gas or in clouds? Let me quote from the 2001 National Academies report [nap.edu]:

    Because there is considerable uncertainty in current understanding of
    how the climate system varies naturally and reacts to emis-
    sions of greenhouse gases and aerosols, current estimates of
    the magnitude of future warming should be regarded as ten-
    tative and subject to future adjustments

    These uncertainties will remain until a
    more fundamental understanding of the processes that con-
    trol atmospheric relative humidity and clouds is achieved.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 23 2017, @05:19PM (2 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday April 23 2017, @05:19PM (#498403) Journal

      The basic science is settled. You're saying something akin to "Well it used to be all computers were beige, but now? Black! Red! Two-tone even! And you tell me computer science is settled?!"

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @07:53PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @07:53PM (#498486)

        Read the quote. Fundamental uncertainties remain. The feedback effect of water is not a detail.

        • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Sunday April 23 2017, @11:58PM

          by butthurt (6141) on Sunday April 23 2017, @11:58PM (#498590) Journal

          > Fundamental uncertainties remain.

          Yes, uncertainties remain. Do you conclude that we ought to burn all the coal?

          https://web.archive.org/web/20170407124854/https://www.blm.gov/ [archive.org]

          > The feedback effect of water is not a detail.

          You're right. Do you mean to imply that a change in the availability of water is an ultimate cause of global warming? With ocean covering ~3/4 of the Earth, but ~1/2 of all land now under cultivation (couldn't be arsed to look up either figure), that would seem to be a possibility. Deforestation also affects the water cycle, and we've done quite a lot of that, too. This paper, however, says nothing at all about water.

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