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posted by janrinok on Monday January 30 2017, @11:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-separation-of-powers dept.

From the what-separation-of-powers department:

The Department of Homeland Security has an update on the entry ban:

The Department of Homeland Security will continue to enforce all of President Trump's Executive Orders in a manner that ensures the safety and security of the American people. President Trump's Executive Orders remain in place—prohibited travel will remain prohibited, and the U.S. government retains its right to revoke visas at any time if required for national security or public safety. President Trump's Executive Order affects a minor portion of international travelers, and is a first step towards reestablishing control over America's borders and national security.

The NY Post adds:

The ACLU is getting "multiple reports" that federal customs agents are siding with President Trump — and willfully ignoring a Brooklyn federal judge's demand that travelers from seven Muslim countries not be deported from the nation's airports.


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by requerdanos on Tuesday January 31 2017, @12:17AM

    by requerdanos (5997) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @12:17AM (#460880) Journal

    Shall I Godwin this thread?

    Actually, Mike Godwin, the man who codified Godwin's Law in the first place, pointed out last month that it's okay [washingtonpost.com] to compare leaders to Nazis or Hitler if they actually are like Nazis or Hitler in a substantive way. He specifically mentions Trump:

    If you’re thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler or Nazis when you talk about Trump. Or any other politician. [emphasis added]

    He explains his reasoning in the linked article, which he wrote for the Washington Post.

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  • (Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Tuesday January 31 2017, @12:21AM

    by Zz9zZ (1348) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @12:21AM (#460883)

    Oh yes I know, I've just gotten a bit of blowback for using the Nazi reference so I tip toed a little more with some tongue in cheek commentary.

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    ~Tilting at windmills~
    • (Score: 3, Informative) by bzipitidoo on Tuesday January 31 2017, @01:27AM

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @01:27AM (#460915) Journal

      Nazis are overused. For some fresh comparisons, the US Civil War has lots of material. Trump is kinda like Jefferson Davis. Bigoted, delusional, and President of less than half the nation. And American. Davis was all too willing to preside over mass butchery. Wouldn't surrender either. Shouldn't he have surrendered unconditionally when the capital, Richmond, fell? Instead, he moved the capital to Danville. How about when Lee surrendered a week later? Nope, wouldn't quit then either, instead fleeing Danville to try to slip out of the country.

      Difference is, Hitler was crazy, or at the least much crazier. Hitler committed suicide rather than suffer capture or retreat. Davis did finally find the sense to run, and when captured, took it with some dignity. I'd put Trump between Hitler and Davis on the crazy spectrum, but closer to Davis.

  • (Score: 2) by BK on Tuesday January 31 2017, @02:03AM

    by BK (4868) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @02:03AM (#460941)

    Well, now that we know it was OK... I just want to point out that HRC is just like Hitler. And the 'Protesters' are just like Brownshirts. And you that don't realize this are just like the sheeple of the German public in the 1930s - willfully blind and fully culpable.

    This is why comparisons to Hitler and Nazis is generally a bad idea and almost always counterproductive.

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    ...but you HAVE heard of me.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @03:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @03:43AM (#461013)

      "I know you are, but what am I!"? That's all you've got? My 5 year old daughter stopped using that as a rhetorical device a couple of years ago. Are you sure we haven't always been at war with Eastasia, while your at it?