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From the what-separation-of-powers department:
The Department of Homeland Security has an update on the entry ban:
The Department of Homeland Security will continue to enforce all of President Trump's Executive Orders in a manner that ensures the safety and security of the American people. President Trump's Executive Orders remain in place—prohibited travel will remain prohibited, and the U.S. government retains its right to revoke visas at any time if required for national security or public safety. President Trump's Executive Order affects a minor portion of international travelers, and is a first step towards reestablishing control over America's borders and national security.
The NY Post adds:
The ACLU is getting "multiple reports" that federal customs agents are siding with President Trump — and willfully ignoring a Brooklyn federal judge's demand that travelers from seven Muslim countries not be deported from the nation's airports.
(Score: 2) by jelizondo on Tuesday January 31 2017, @04:08AM
Oh, gee! I’m quoting CNN [cnn.com] for you, as probably it is a trusted source in your view: “Senior officials at the Department of Homeland Security initially interpreted Trump's order to not apply to green card holders from the seven banned countries. Trump White House overruled that reading, however, meaning those green card holders were initially barred.” (I bolded the relevant phrases.)
Can an executive order send all those people out of the U.S.? Of course! But with due process of law, not just throw them out like they were illegally entering the country. Which is why they backtracked, quoting from the same source: " 'This is our message to them: get on a plane. Come back to the US. You will be subject to secondary screening, but everything else will be normal,' the Homeland Security official told CNN. A White House official said Sunday more than 170 green card holders had been waived in as of 3 p.m.”
And not weasel words, just quoting the FUCKING LAW which you don't appear to hold dear. YES, they can be deported BUT following the law. No explanation needed, just an administrative resolution telling them to get the hell out. Yes, they can appeal the deportation order. And yes, they can be denied on appeal. But according to the law. Anyone not a citizen is a 'conditional resident' meaning they can be thrown out, even if they are married to a citizen; but they have a larger legal protection.
Visa holders are a quite different case, they can be denied entry on just not looking good enough to the agent at the airport and no appeal is available.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 31 2017, @10:19AM
Bottom line: The president has the legal authority to shut down immigration, at this point in time. You can appeal, which gains you a few weeks or months in detention, while waiting for your appeal to go through. And at the end of the process, if you haven't performed enough deviant sex acts for the right people, out you go.
“Take me to the Brig. I want to see the “real Marines”. – Major General Chesty Puller, USMC
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 01 2017, @08:40PM
Real bottom line: the president issue an illegal order, has had to fire people that tell him it is illegal, four judges ruled it is illegal, annnd to top it off green card holders don't quite fit into "immigration" like you're imagining.
Deviant sex acts? Seems like the massive push back against this stupid order is pushing your personal limits of criticism. The strong man act doesn't work so well anymore, too many people are educated enough that you can't just intimidate them with strong phrases like "Bottom line".
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday February 02 2017, @01:39AM
On the contrary, the push back is against the liberals, who want to redefine common words, so that they can confuse issues.
You don't get to decide that the United States isn't the United States anymore, just because you have been brainwashed into thinking that you are a "citizen of the world". Nations and nationalism are still a thing.
Trump has issued no illegal orders. He has acted within his legal authorities. You don't like that, so you want to change definitions. Doesn't work, Bubba.
“Take me to the Brig. I want to see the “real Marines”. – Major General Chesty Puller, USMC