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  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 12 2019, @02:31AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 12 2019, @02:31AM (#866082)

    Anthropomorphic climate change not supported by experiance
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20417085 [ycombinator.com]
    Suppressed article : https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdf [arxiv.org]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 12 2019, @03:08AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 12 2019, @03:08AM (#866092)

      Crap article. Claimed to prove something, proved nothing; I gonna charge you for the 15mins I wasted with it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 12 2019, @03:13AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 12 2019, @03:13AM (#866097)

      Whats this have to do with tfa?

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday July 12 2019, @12:00PM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 12 2019, @12:00PM (#866196) Journal

      Anthropomorphic climate change not supported by experiance

      That would be no. No experience, much less valid, scientific evidence, has been presented to support anything of that sort.

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday July 12 2019, @04:09PM (1 child)

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 12 2019, @04:09PM (#866283) Journal

        That's an overstatement. There *has* been evidence that anthropogenic warming is not important. It wasn't very convincing, and there were alternative explanations, but don't overstate the case. There has also been evidence that tremendously overstates the effect. I'm not seriously expecting a 1 km rise in sea level. (I think someone got a decimal point wrong on than one.)

        OTOH, there has been a systematic bias to understate the effect of anthropogenic warming. Often from benign motives. ("If we tell the the real estimate they'll disregard it.") The usual technique is to collect a wide spread of model results, and discard the high end ones as "unrealistic". Well, at least that's what the IPCC did.

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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday July 13 2019, @05:33AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 13 2019, @05:33AM (#866503) Journal

          There *has* been evidence that anthropogenic warming is not important.

          Even if AGW is purely delusion and hysteria, there are tens of billions of dollars each year in spending to demonstrate that it is important. Rather, if you are claiming that there's evidence that it is insignificant compared to natural sources, one merely needs stronger counterevidence to disregard the evidence. Here, the best you can say is that "It wasn't very convincing, and there were alternative explanations". Meanwhile we have evidence of substantial human contributions to CO2 and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere (for example, via distribution of carbon isotopes in the atmosphere, indicating a strong geological source for the carbon, such as fossil fuel burning) as well as pretty reliable radiative models of the atmosphere for determining what the short term heating effects of such greenhouse gases should be.

          OTOH, there has been a systematic bias to understate the effect of anthropogenic warming. Often from benign motives. ("If we tell the the real estimate they'll disregard it.") The usual technique is to collect a wide spread of model results, and discard the high end ones as "unrealistic". Well, at least that's what the IPCC did.

          It would be interesting to know why the IPCC ignored the supposedly strong probability that the Earth's climate is sensitive enough in the long term to greenhouse gases increases that it may have already blown through the threshold that they set for limiting the need for adaptation to climate change. I suspect the primary reason is because that distracts from the narrative of climate change mitigation through the spending of tens of billions of dollars a year.

    • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by nitehawk214 on Friday July 12 2019, @02:17PM

      by nitehawk214 (1304) on Friday July 12 2019, @02:17PM (#866229)

      Lemme guess, you are going to bitch that the "offtopic" downmods you are getting are proof that you are being suppressed.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 12 2019, @03:13AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 12 2019, @03:13AM (#866096)

    Easy and simple, as nature likes to do.
    Magnetic poles (finally) flip over, cooling effect ensues, cancels mankind's "global warming" fiasco. People can continue flying jets everywhere and pounding the atmosphere with more rocket launches. Your car - negligible impact - just a lot of political hot air. Your clean rivers - good; but look at China, India, etc. THAT is whgere the problem lies and we keep on buying their stuff....

    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday July 12 2019, @04:13PM

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 12 2019, @04:13PM (#866290) Journal

      Even though that was funny, I have to object that there's an order of magnitude problem here. The two factors may oppose, but one is so much stronger than the other that the secondary one will be overridden...and we'll keep getting warmer.

      Unfortunately, I've seen argument as silly as that one (the parent's) taken seriously.

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  • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday July 12 2019, @03:25AM

    by Sulla (5173) on Friday July 12 2019, @03:25AM (#866101) Journal

    Glad I zoomed in instead of scrolling on down the main page. Here I thought the geomagnetic reversal was making Water Moccasins stronger

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