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posted by janrinok on Sunday July 29 2018, @06:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the wheres-your-ds-160 dept.

Daniel Stenberg, author of the ubiquitous URL fetcher cURL and the libcurl multiprotocol file transfer library, and recipient of the 2017 Polheim Prize, has been blocked again from attending a US-based conference. Daniel has written a post in his blog about his two-year odyssey through the byzantine US bureaucracy to try to get permission to attend a work-related conference in California. He has been in the US nine times previously but despite pages of paperwork, hundreds of dollars in fees, and personal visits to the embassy, no dice. As a result the conference will have to move outside the US and probably Canada too if it wants to stay open to the world's top talent.

Earlier on SN:
US Visa Applications May Soon Require Five Years of Social Media Info (2018)
Reducing Year 2038 Problems in curl (2018)
cURL turns Seventeen Today (2015)


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  • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Sunday July 29 2018, @11:56PM (8 children)

    by Whoever (4524) on Sunday July 29 2018, @11:56PM (#714520) Journal

    He's a foreigner. He has no right to come to the US.

    So?

    The USA benefits from his visit to the USA.

    The USA has the right to deny entry to all non-citizens. Do you think that would be a good move for the economy?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 30 2018, @12:14AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 30 2018, @12:14AM (#714527)

    Do you think that would be a good move for the economy?

    MAGA! Keep this alien out, he's stealing our jobs!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 30 2018, @12:56AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 30 2018, @12:56AM (#714550)

    The USA benefits from his visit to the USA.

    Not your call.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 30 2018, @02:15AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 30 2018, @02:15AM (#714570)

      I don't need no arms around me
      I don't need no drugs to calm me
      I have seen the writing on the wall

      Don't think I need anything at all
      No don't think I'll need anything at all

      All in all it was all just bricks in the wall
      All in all you were just bricks in the wall

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by khallow on Monday July 30 2018, @02:26AM (4 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 30 2018, @02:26AM (#714576) Journal

      The USA benefits from his visit to the USA.

      Not your call.

      Then whose call could it possibly be? This is the typical problem with authoritarian logic. Once someone gets in charge, they magically gain the authority to make all kinds of bullshit "calls" without explanation or accountability.

      My view on this is that even non-citizens have rights to just do stuff, like enter the US, without this sort of bullshit. Sure, regulate their entry and such to protect the delicate security theater the US has set up. But to reject entry (and stonewall on a second application for over three months) without explanation is bullshit. This guy is obeying the laws of the US and has a good reason for being in the US. Why isn't he being allowed entry? We need more than some bullshit about rights.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 30 2018, @05:13AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 30 2018, @05:13AM (#714627)

        Simple. The executive branch under president Trump, who has generally unrestricted authority to ban foreigners from entering the United States. Actual decision is through a mix of inputs from department of state, homeland security, FBI and a bunch of other TLAs whose information can be reasonably classified.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday July 30 2018, @12:50PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 30 2018, @12:50PM (#714691) Journal

          Simple. The executive branch under president Trump, who has generally unrestricted authority to ban foreigners from entering the United States. Actual decision is through a mix of inputs from department of state, homeland security, FBI and a bunch of other TLAs whose information can be reasonably classified.

          I agree that's the problem. But how to fix it? I suggest eliminating most of those TLAs and making much less of that information "reasonably classified" so that citizens and non-citizens have more information about how they can get things done and still comply with whatever decision-making processes are going on.

      • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Monday July 30 2018, @07:21PM (1 child)

        by loonycyborg (6905) on Monday July 30 2018, @07:21PM (#714891)

        What if it wasn't anyone's call? But rather this outcome being solely result of bureaucratic SNAFU? After author of cURL wouldn't be near as important as some Olympic athlete, so forgetting to process him in timely matter wouldn't even result in diplomatic incident. With the amount of sods trying to enter US for whatever reason there's no wonder that government workers would become bored..

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 31 2018, @05:20AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 31 2018, @05:20AM (#715084) Journal

          With the amount of sods trying to enter US for whatever reason there's no wonder that government workers would become bored..

          If it's not important enough for them to care, it's certainly not important enough for me to support.