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Saudis preparing to admit Jamal Khashoggi died during interrogation, sources say
The Saudis are preparing a report that will acknowledge that Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi's death was the result of an interrogation that went wrong, one that was intended to lead to his abduction from Turkey, according to two sources.
One source says the report will likely conclude that the operation was carried out without clearance and transparency and that those involved will be held responsible.
One of the sources acknowledged that the report is still being prepared and cautioned that things could change.
The Washington Post columnist was last seen in public when he entered the Saudi consulate in Istanbul in Turkey on October 2. Previously, Saudi authorities had maintained Khashoggi left the consulate the same afternoon of his visit, but provided no evidence to support the claim.
Saudi Arabia could hike oil prices over the Khashoggi case. Here's why it would backfire
Saudi Arabia's not-so-veiled threat issued in a government statement Sunday emphasized its "vital role in the global economy" and that any action taken upon it will be met with "greater action". But as oil ticks upward, a look at history and geopolitics suggests that while a Saudi-driven oil price spike would bring pain for much of the world, it would ultimately backfire on itself.
"If this is something the Saudis were allowed to do, they'd be really shooting themselves in the foot," Warren Patterson, commodities analyst at ING, told CNBC's Squawk Box Europe on Tuesday. "In the short to medium term we'll definitely see an incremental amount of demand destruction, but the bigger issue is in the longer term."
Any action in withholding oil from the market, he said, "would only quicken the pace of energy transition."
Previously: Turkey Says that a Missing Critic of the Saudi Government was Killed in Saudi Consulate in Istanbul
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday October 17 2018, @12:58AM (13 children)
When was the last time the US or UK carried out an assassination this brazen on foreign soil? (Drone strikes don't count!)
The Bin Laden raid comes to mind. But Bin Laden wasn't a Washington Post columnist, and was in hiding.
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(Score: 5, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday October 17 2018, @01:29AM (1 child)
Drone strikes don't count? Why not? Those are pretty damned brazen.
Since you seem to unaware of crimes committed by the US and/or US operatives, you might start with the wiki page on black ops. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_operation [wikipedia.org]
Then you might recall the Blackwater mercenaries, who carried out a lot of US missions that were too "sensitive" to commit troops directly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater:_The_Rise_of_the_World%27s_Most_Powerful_Mercenary_Army [wikipedia.org]
Bear in mind that a successful mission never made the news. If clandestine operations are reported, then they have failed to some degree, or maybe even completely.
I was having one of those brain farts, finally remembered the term I want: rendition. First three links after putting that word into a search:
http://oilempire.us/rendition.html [oilempire.us]
https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/05/08/a-brief-history-of-american-torture/ [counterpunch.org]
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/12/09/usa-and-torture-history-hypocrisy [hrw.org]
Here, you may be tempted to complain that the US plays by certain rules, or something. That our targets are suspected of terrorism, or something. Or, that our targets are comatants, or something. Complain away.
The fact remains that we commit acts similar to what Saudi Arabia is accused of in this instance.
You may also complain that Saudi Arabia and/or some other country doesn't play this game by our rules, which would be hilarious. If a con man in the street, or a huckster at a bar, bets you that he can do $impossible feat, do you take his bet? Derp! Of course you don't! His game, his rules, he wins no matter what. Ditto in the global geopolitical scene. If we write the rules, and everyone agrees to play by our rules, we are certain to win.
Hence, we see China playing our game, BY THEIR OWN RULES.
Getting off track here. Do your own search, and you'll find plenty of renditions in our history.
ICE is having a Pretti Good season.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday October 17 2018, @01:38AM
All too commonly our combatants are wedding guests
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(Score: 4, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday October 17 2018, @01:32AM (4 children)
Why don't drone strikes count? Is it because a drone can kill lots of people at a wedding?
Hey, whats 63 deaths between friends? [wikipedia.org]
I mean, sometimes the bride cops it. Along with 46 of her friends and family. [wikipedia.org]
Here's another wedding hit by drones. [aljazeera.com]
Going to a wedding can be dangerous for some people. I am not sure why these dead people don't count, but a journalist does.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday October 17 2018, @01:49AM (3 children)
A drone strike isn't on the foreign soil, duh!
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(Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday October 17 2018, @02:33AM (2 children)
You're losing it, or at least you've failed to communicate anything meaningful with that post. Are you suggesting that the US only launches drone strikes on it's own soil? In that respect, the SA incident has more "morality" than our drone strikes, because the murder took place within an SA embassy. It is recognized that an embassy is sovereign soil of the nation occupying that embassy.
ICE is having a Pretti Good season.
(Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Wednesday October 17 2018, @08:36AM (1 child)
You are more missing the pedantic point that a drone is usually airborne when it strikes.
Technically, it makes it not on a foreign soils, but in a foreign air-space.
(grin)
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday October 17 2018, @03:16PM
*rolleyes*
It's where the bodies fall that counts, I think. When blown to hell, the bodies tend to land in mideastern nations.
ICE is having a Pretti Good season.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Fluffeh on Wednesday October 17 2018, @02:44AM (1 child)
At least they knocked off one of their own citizens. On the other hand... we... well... anyone we don't like is fair game apparently.
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Wednesday October 17 2018, @06:14AM
*for the US, UK, Israel, probably many others..
FTFY
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by DavePolaschek on Wednesday October 17 2018, @12:57PM
I feel dirty citing Buzzfeed, but this was in my twitter feed this morning.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/aramroston/mercenaries-assassination-us-yemen-uae-spear-golan-dahlan [buzzfeednews.com]
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday October 17 2018, @04:09PM (2 children)
Additionally, Bin Laden wasn't killed merely for his opinions.
For some odd reason all scientific instruments searching for intelligent life are pointed away from Earth.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday October 17 2018, @04:33PM
His opinions on American imperialism were 2strong! :))))
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(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday October 17 2018, @05:26PM
He was killed either in a completely animalistic act of revenge, or good politics, or because he knew too much about US covert activities. Had all 3 of those things not been true, we'd have wanted to interrogate him to get whatever information we could.
"Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin