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Ever wonder why SoylentNews doesn't have a Patreon option? Have a read and if you still have any questions, I'll be happy to explain why I'm going to flatly refuse to write the necessary code even in the event that management decides it's a thing we should support.
These lines in particular annoy me:
But secondly as a membership platform, payment processing is one of the core value propositions that we have. Payment processing depends on our ability to use the global payment network, and they have rules for what they will process.
Bull fucking shit. We're a long damned way from Social Justice assclowns having enough stroke to get Visa and Mastercard to bend their knee to whatever their manufactured outrage of the moment is. If you're going to take a position that loses you money, that's your right. At least have the balls to own your position though.
(Score: 1) by NPC-131072 on Saturday December 22 2018, @08:20PM
Banning nazis [youtube.com] is our moral obligation [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Saturday December 22 2018, @08:36PM (8 children)
- Matt must have one HELL of a memory since that wasn't recorded.
- Certain things, vendors, and establishments I won't do. Patreon has been one of them for a while now.
- Increasingly large numbers of people have been de-platformed at all levels for decreasingly valid (and progressively more inconsistent) reasons for the past few years.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 2) by Arik on Saturday December 22 2018, @10:39PM (3 children)
He probably has some sort of helper or friend around who can type or write quickly and just focus on taking notes.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday December 23 2018, @02:01AM (2 children)
He has a producer, I think. I expect that's who did it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Sunday December 23 2018, @02:40AM (1 child)
Did you see "Tucker Boycott, Sargon Ban Prove Social Justice Is Just A Cover?"
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday December 23 2018, @04:58AM
Nah, I don't follow the nuances of idiocy either directly or via anyone's play-by-play of it. This just happened to get brought to my attention by someone I know personally.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 22 2018, @11:06PM
Definitely not (for legal reasons) but the guy is obviously great at transcription [youtube.com]
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 23 2018, @04:46AM (2 children)
Reading the transcript, one should not conclude that the conversation was not recorded. It was clearly stated that he lived in a two-party state, and that it would be illegal to record a conversation without both party's consent. He never stated, "No, I am not recording this conversation."
Does Matt state, in any other place, that he definitely DID NOT make a recording?
Maybe he stepped around the issue on a technicality, using a speech-to-text application to make the transcript?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Sunday December 23 2018, @05:09PM
Admittedly my comment was a bit of sarc :-)
I didn't catch an indication that other individuals were on the line, but it is entirely possible that this was a community call, certainly noone else spoke.
And yeah, it isn't particularly rare to have touch typists that can keep up with a conversation (I've manage to do it, barely, not while holding a discussion myself however. The big trick for me is to not go correct typo's and minor errors in real time.)
Speech to text converter is an interesting thought, have to wonder if that's been tested against those laws.
Also didn't think the Grima Wormtongue treatment they gave the voice of the Patreon Baghdad Bob was necessary.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 2) by cafebabe on Saturday January 05 2019, @11:30PM
He said he lived in a state where both parties consent to recording. He didn't say he was in a state where both parties consent to recording.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by RandomFactor on Saturday December 22 2018, @08:51PM (3 children)
A justice system in social media without transparency, consistency, checks, balances, or appeal now exists.
This system controls and denies resources that can destroy lives and careers.
It is a form of tyranny, I don't know that it has been categorized properly but like porn, I know it when I see it.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 3, Interesting) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday December 22 2018, @10:38PM
Who’s going to give back the young and beautiful lives (and others) that have been devastated and destroyed by the phoney Social Media Witch Hunt? They journeyed down to the internet, with stars in their eyes and wanting to get their message out...They went back home in tatters! Make America Great Again!
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday December 23 2018, @02:58AM (1 child)
This is a direct result of Jews and Jewish nepotism, with the assistance of fat angry pink-haired untermensch who are going out of their way to carve out a new role in society for themselves.
The end result of the Calhoun mouse experiments is manifesting itself in humanity and accelerated by the increased connectivity of the internet. Soon we will all be insane, like at the end of Watchmen.
(Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday December 23 2018, @04:59AM
Some of us decided to avoid the Christmas rush and started early though.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday December 22 2018, @10:24PM (6 children)
I sent the story about how HORRIBLY UNFAIR Patreon is. But, the Editors are blocking it. And I think I'll hear from the Robot Editor every soon about that one. With the Robot Rejection. Sad!! breitbart.com/tech/2018/12/15/patreon-tolerates-calls-for-violence-from-leftists-while-demonetizing-conservatives [breitbart.com]
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 22 2018, @11:22PM (5 children)
What's the matter, Chaos in Chief? Patreon doesn't have a "Set up fraudulent LLC to payoff porn stars and other assorted side pieces" option? Just remember this little piece of advice: if you keep it in your pants you get to keep your wallet in your pants, too.
(Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday December 23 2018, @02:03AM (4 children)
He's fully allowed to pay porn stars to STFU. This is American and you can pay anyone to do anything so long as the anything is legal. He's just not allowed to do it as part of a campaign or with campaign funds.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 23 2018, @02:06AM
"Patreon doesn't have a "Set up fraudulent LLC to payoff porn stars and other assorted side pieces" option?"
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 23 2018, @02:32AM (1 child)
Kind of, yeah. But Cohen committed bank fraud by lying on the loan application to get the $130k, the LLC submitted fake invoices to the trump org for reimbursement, and the trump org paid those invoices knowing they were fake. That is called money laundering. And let's not forget the NDA had fake names on it to hide the participants.
If <insert anyone's name here> wrote a check to <insert someone else's name here> for <insert amount here> for the purposes of <insert anything legal here> it would have been ok. But that's not what they did.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday December 23 2018, @04:55AM
No, that's not money laundering. Fraud is fraud but hiding a money trail is perfectly legal so long as the money is legal, what you're doing with it is legal, and how you hide it is legal. Nearly everyone who can afford to in the US does; from Trump to Soros. Money laundering is taking illegal money and making it appear legal.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 23 2018, @02:48AM
Hey bird brain you in here being stupid?
Ok, carion then.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 23 2018, @04:57AM (2 children)
All I see is doubleplus doublespeak from Jacqueline. The problem with doublespeak is, if it ever does begin to make sense to you, you are then brain damaged. If I thought things might improve further down the page, I might stick it out - but the chances of that happening are nil.
All the silliness is there - diversity, reports, feelings, blah blah blah. "Conform, or suffer!" Rule of the mob.
In days past, I've looked at Patreon stuff. I'll never even look at them again.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 23 2018, @07:44AM
Double speak? One wonders how an functional illiterate such as Runaway could detect such a thing, and how such a simpleton as the Buzzard the Lesser could not fail to be totally befuddled by the same.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 23 2018, @03:20PM
It's especially hypocritical how most all of these companies start out by saying how committed to free speech they are, but later on the ridiculous restrictions on the type of content they allow increase and they still claim to care about the principle of free speech (i.e. not the first amendment). If you want to be a censorious asshole, then just admit that that's what you are, instead of also being a lying, hypocritical piece of garbage. I mean, it's not like they're not allowed to have these restrictions.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Sunday December 23 2018, @05:46AM
Dilbertman is gonna use his millions and his weed to make a service that competes with Patreon, I presume it involes his WhenToken into is so that I can go to the moon.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Nerdfest on Sunday December 23 2018, @09:27PM (5 children)
Wasn't PayPal doing some exceptionally douchey political freezing of accounts and banning of certain industries? Credit card companies too, I think. Payment processing places should *not* be allowed to do dictate what money can be used for. I'm pretty sure we have laws to handle that bad stuff.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday December 23 2018, @10:29PM (4 children)
PayPal is pretty shitty too, yes. If I thought we could get away with dropping them, I'd absolutely be making that case on a daily basis.
Stripe is much better but still somewhat shitty in that direction. I'm taking a wait and see attitude with them.
Visa and Mastercard don't give a fuck unless they think inaction might lead to regulation though.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Informative) by NPC-131072 on Monday December 24 2018, @02:32AM (1 child)
We on the morally superior left are so fortunate that Visa and Mastercard cut off processing to Nazis like David Horowitz [dailycaller.com] before you libertariantards even noticed!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Reziac on Wednesday December 26 2018, @03:14AM
Under its own standards, SPLC is a hate group.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Monday December 24 2018, @02:43AM (1 child)
I seem to remember Visa and MasterCard refusing donations to someone or something and freezing accounts. It may have been PayPal in all cases but I'd swear there was one involving credit card companies. It's remotely possible I'll have the energy to look it up.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday December 24 2018, @04:37AM
Exceptional, public cases where they might get some actual pressure as opposed to noisy children with no money? Yeah, those happen on rare occasion. They're about the bottom line always. The general public being pissed off at them can affect their bottom line. Students who owe more money than they have by several orders of magnitude? Not so much.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 23 2018, @11:59PM (27 children)
Suck it, gibbertarians. This is the logical end result of your "free market" uber alles diarrhea. Oh, but let me guess, it's only a free market when YOU agree with it, right...?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday December 24 2018, @12:22AM (26 children)
Do please quote where I said the government should get involved. This is the free market at work, exactly as it should work. You already know this, you're just spouting nonsense so you have something to disagree with.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by NPC-131072 on Monday December 24 2018, @02:43AM (9 children)
The Hep C problem is entirely due to needle sharing as evidenced by the map I posted with outliers such as Delaware. She doesn't respond to that in the same way she doesn't respond to the fact that transwomen are women. Bigot!
(Score: 2, Touché) by Magic Oddball on Monday December 24 2018, @11:10AM (6 children)
That's an opinion, not a fact. A fact would be: having two X chromosomes & largely-internal genitourinary/reproductive organs (absent any birth defects) is what defines virtually all mammals as "female", which in humans is referred to as being a "girl" or "woman."
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday December 24 2018, @11:35AM (5 children)
It's not even an opinion, it's just factually incorrect. This doesn't preclude civility from either side though.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday December 24 2018, @03:58PM (4 children)
Transwomen are women, they're just not ciswomen. They have different experiences from women. Of course, by that same token I don't presume to run their lives or second guess them, since I have different experiences from them, like not going through the wrong puberty which sounds like some kind of horror story.
This NPC person is clearly a shit-stirring troll, and he seems to have a particular obsession with me for some reason. Can't imagine why. Oh wait I can: evil cannot comprehend good, and seeks its destruction. Too bad he's also utterly incompetent even at trolling :D
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday December 24 2018, @05:08PM
No, they're not. They've gone through a lot of trouble to get as close as they can but they are not and never will be female. They're playing biological dress-up. That is how I view them now and how I will always view them in the future.
I won't tell them how to think of themselves but they don't get to tell me how to think of them either.
That aside, I really don't care if they feel either desire or compulsion to get their femininity on. More power to them. I'm certainly not going to stop being assertive and masculine because it's out of vogue on the left lately and I'll absolutely back their play if they want to buck cultural norms as well.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by NPC-131072 on Tuesday December 25 2018, @10:47PM
You support trans women and claim they're women apart from the journal entry where you claim they are not, you refuse to use chosen pronouns, you use the N-word but claim it's fine in context and yet I'm the troll? You claim I'm obsessed when it was you who unloaded on me? [soylentnews.org] Merry Christmas - hope Santa brought you a vanity mirror!
(Score: 2) by Webweasel on Thursday December 27 2018, @01:38PM (1 child)
No:
A) If you can get pregnant your female.
B) If you can impregnate females, your male.
C) All the rest are freaks and should be ignored.
Priyom.org Number stations, Russian Military radio. "You are a bad, bad man. Do you have any other virtues?"-Runaway1956
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday December 27 2018, @09:40PM
I mostly know FtMs, not MtFs. And I leave you with this example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Angel. [wikipedia.org] This is Buck Angel, a transman/FtM. He has, as far as anyone knows, 2 X chromosomes. Could not possibly impregnate a woman. Do you consider this person a woman? If yes, or no, why, or why not? He's manlier-looking than a hell of a lot of actual men I've met. I would never in a million years guess he was born with a female body.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Monday December 24 2018, @11:26AM
...also, as far as I can tell, Azuma's nowhere near bigoted against transgender people. (Assuming you define "bigoted" as "people can do what they like, just don't expect me to pretend that whatever stupid stereotypes they believe in somehow trump biology", that would be my bag, not hers.)
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday December 24 2018, @03:55PM
How about you quote the entire sentence, which would show that that was a quote of what someone else was attempting to say but didn't have the gonads to put in plain language because they're cowards?
Buddy, you suck at this. Anyone can click the link and see the context. You're not even a good troll; step your game up if you want to play with the grownups :)
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday December 24 2018, @04:00PM (15 children)
Well if the Free Market (TM) is working as it should, why are you all asspained about it? Shut your stinking beak and stop your blasphemy against the Free Market (TM). The Free Market (TM) has spoken. Are you some kinda pinko commie or what?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday December 24 2018, @05:10PM (14 children)
Me refusing to do business with them is a fundamental part of the free market. Do you really fail to understand this? If so, you should probably stop speaking about economics. Ever.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 24 2018, @05:47PM (13 children)
So you are some sort of warrior fighting for what you believe is justice?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday December 24 2018, @06:05PM (12 children)
No, and this is what she fails to grok, I am just part of the market voicing its dissatisfaction with their services. Working exactly as intended.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday December 24 2018, @09:47PM (11 children)
Just out of curiosity, is there *anything* you would be opposed to private enterprise doing, or angry with them for not doing? Anything at all?
For example, if someone started a company that kidnapped and killed homeless people, orphans, and similar and sold their organs, would you be opposed to this? If so or if not, why, and if so, what remedies do you believe appropriate to stop these people and who should administer them?
I realize I'm doing the equivalent of picking at a particularly nasty, crusty scab here. Some kind of horrifying fascination keeps me riveted; how far will you take your beliefs? All the way to the obvious if terrifying conclusions?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 25 2018, @01:57PM (10 children)
Okay, I'll spell it out for you, without rancor, as a Christmas present.
A company, so long as they are not abusing monopoly powers or breaking existing law, might garner my personal disfavor (I am part of the market, as are you.) but would never in any circumstance I've considered have me asking for executive intervention.
A company abusing monopoly powers or breaking the law would instantly have me asking for such.
Legislation refining or creating new laws might or might not have my backing, depending on the specifics.
Creating new laws from the bench will always have my opposition.
Note: Monopoly powers do not necessarily exist only in by-the-book monopolies. They crop up many other places naturally, via collusion, via corruption, or with simple unspoken agreement. All abuses of such need carefully looked into at the very least. Non-abuses of such can be generally be ignored for expedience's sake until they become a problem.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday December 25 2018, @04:31PM (9 children)
Way to avoid the question. The only thing that came close to answering my hypothetical about the Orphans and Homeless Organ Harvesting, Inc. company was "breaking existing law," and this itself is a dodge.
Many existing laws get in the way of profit generation and market freedom. Why should these laws take priority, simply because they already exist? I'm sure there are plenty of existing laws--which you will refer to with the word "regulation" as if it were a swear word--you'd like to see gone, so don't give me that "breaking existing law" crap.
Furthermore, you have as I hoped contradicted yourself: you've acknowledged, at least indirectly, that the Free Market (TM) is not God, because it depends on certain laws and the rule of law existing for its own existence. We may therefore safely say it does not possess divine aseity :)
So you've taken the necessary first step. Now, think a bit harder: why should economic activity, however you define it, be the be-all and end-all purpose of human existence? This is that moral priority-inversion bug you've got that I've pointed out before: you're putting a thing (or a great constellation of things, to be fair...) above people. What is the purpose of the Free Market (TM), and why should we feed live humans to it piecemeal like some sort of demonic coal furnace?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 25 2018, @05:25PM (8 children)
Darlin, it's Christmas. I'm not going to trade insults and abuse with you. I wouldn't even be answering you at all if I weren't all full of Christmas cheer. Given that, there's really no point continuing this conversation since you seem insistent on not understanding and misrepresenting what I've just explained. Merry Christmas if you celebrate and Happy Tuesday if not. I hope you're spending with your loved ones regardless.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday December 25 2018, @06:15PM (7 children)
Since it's Christmas here's a clue as a present for you: you did not take the high road just now. You never do. No one who knows you will look at your post and think you did, or that you "won" anything here.
Fact of the matter is, you ran away like a little baby. Again. We've seen you do this over and over and over again when someone gets down to the supposed bedrock of your beliefs and finds out the foundation is actually sand, not granite. Do you get it yet? You have a reputation, and not a good one, that precedes you. No one takes your seriously on these subjects any longer. You've exposed your shallow, selfish "thinking" time after time and people are just done with it. Your posts are effectively noise at best; at worst, you just make things worse for yourself.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 25 2018, @09:08PM (6 children)
Oh, you thought I was trying to play with you. No. That's not going to happen again. Not ever. Put it out of your mind. All you got today was sincerity.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday December 25 2018, @09:47PM (5 children)
I'm not accusing you of insincerity, Uzzard. Quite the opposite: you're not self-aware or social enough to even attempt to craft a good lie to make yourself look better. No, this is all you, as unfiltered as raw sewage and just about as full of shit. You're all bombast and no substance; you could fool an unthinking reader into believing you know something, but a little critical analysis shows you don't.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 25 2018, @11:21PM (4 children)
Yes, that would be exactly why. There's only so many times you can play with someone that far below your skill level and it be anything but tedious. Merry Christmas, darlin. We're done here.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday December 26 2018, @01:13AM (1 child)
You're right, but for some reason I keep doing it =P Hell knows why. Run along now, and take a nice long sitz bath...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by NPC-131072 on Wednesday December 26 2018, @01:47AM
Deutsche Sprache, Nazi bestätigt!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 26 2018, @03:54AM (1 child)
Hmm, this springs to mind https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=29265&page=1&cid=777726#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday December 26 2018, @02:55PM
That was much better, yes. I dig puns and don't have skin so thin I can't laugh at myself.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by cafebabe on Saturday January 05 2019, @11:42PM (1 child)
Content on SoylentNews is sufficient for Patreon.Com to instantly ban an account. The random racism and homophobia (often from unauthenticated users) means that at least 0.5% of the messages would be hate speech. (For comparison, 2.3% of Twitter.Com is hate speech and 5.4% of Gab.Com is hate speech [wikipedia.org].) Even if SoylentNews deleted 1.0% of its messages this may not be sufficient to appease Patreon.Com. So, don't bother.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 06 2019, @04:59AM
I'm all about not bothering. Most any semi-legitimate excuse to go fishing instead of coding some particular something is good enough for me.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.