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So there it is. janrinok did not respond directly to my challenge, like a gentleman, but he is English, so some accommodation is in order.
But he did, or, at least he might have, reigned in his dog, (and, yes, I know that the proper word is "reined", but there was precipitation) and with that admission, I consider the matter to be partially closed.
In the future, I expect aristarchus submissions to be given equal consideration with all other submissions, and not be dismissed without cause, hint, or license. And I expect Editors to be able to distinguish alt-right agitprop, and islamophobic hysteria, and Runaway submissions when they fit one of those categories,
But, and let me make this clear, the next time there is such an affront to justice and myself, or any other honorable Soylentil, I will demand satisfaction in blood. Or ouzo. Either way.
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Followed immediately by this:
We're sorry, your submission "Perché l’associazione ultra cattolica di Bannon vuole una scuola di sovranisti in Italia:" was declined for the following reason:
Submissions must be in English - https://soylentnews.org/faq.pl?op=editorial. -- JR
Do you not realize, denizen of the Fairy Isles to the West, that to a Greek Italian is English? Americans are the problem. Monolingual troglodytes who Steve Bannon is going to bambozzle.
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Further followed by a newsworthy submission:
https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=33468
Rejected by takyon with the words:
We're sorry, your submission "2 from white supremacist group plead guilty in Charlottesville rally violence" was declined for the following reason:
nope -takyon
Seems nothing has changed. #freearistarchus!!!!
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And I would be remiss if I did not profusely thank Azuma Hazuki for her invaluable service as a second in this affair. Without her, the matter would not have ended as amicably as it did. ありがとう、お姉さん.
(Score: 3, Funny) by janrinok on Saturday May 04 2019, @01:01PM
If you issue a challenge, put it where it will be read. I rarely read journals, and yours in particular because I've already read the junk when your submission was rejected. :)
All submissions are treated in exactly the same way. I do try to sign all my rejections with my initials. However, when we do a clear out of time-expired stories they just get deleted all together and there is no mechanism for explaining why they are being rejected in that instance.
(Score: 4, Funny) by takyon on Saturday May 04 2019, @04:20PM
I'll give you the deletions you're itching for.
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday May 04 2019, @04:52PM
I thought Jan Rinok was a Kraut or a Nord.
(Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday May 04 2019, @05:12PM
janrinok is not the boss of me. He's editorial and that's the one bit I've managed to avoid getting talked into. Any opinions I have on how they're doing their jobs carries no more weight than $random_user's does. The list of my bosses is as follows: NCommander and Deucalion for everything, paulej72 for code, mechanicjay for sysadmin stuff. We should probably promote audioguy to co-head-sysadmin cause we treat him like he is already but I don't think he wants the job.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 04 2019, @07:16PM (11 children)
try giving up your obsession with "alt-right". Almost every submission you make is intended to stir the shit. "Muckraker" would be another word to describe your posts. Also, stop your "witty" editorializing. Some of your submissions might not be "bad", if you just left the commentary out. You''re not really all that witty.
And, stop trying to use your lack of wit like a bludgeon, trying to beat SN into submission to your point of view.
Quickly now, mod me down, before impartial readers see what I've had to say!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Whoever on Saturday May 04 2019, @08:50PM (2 children)
Your wish is my command.
(Score: 0, Troll) by NPC-131072 on Saturday May 04 2019, @10:52PM (1 child)
Why not think for yourself like us morally superior liberals? Lest any "freethinking", libertarian, trumptards accuse me of making a cylonphobic comment, I am prepared to respect whoever as a liberal individual who does exactly as instructed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 08 2019, @04:06AM
So edgy you cut yourself
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 05 2019, @12:46AM (2 children)
He writes a lot of stinkers, but man, does he draw the flies! That buzzing you hear, it doesn't stop! It's a rowing contest... stroke! stroke! stroke! It's group masturbation at its finest! Who can shoot the furthest?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 05 2019, @01:04AM (1 child)
Doesn't shit attract flies?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 05 2019, @07:33PM
Attracted Runaway and NPC. Just saying.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Monday May 06 2019, @04:37PM (4 children)
I'm with Runaway on this one. I really hate editorializing in the submissions, no matter who is posting it.
Stick to the facts and present the story in a neutral manner. Save the editorializing for the comments.
Also, ari, keep in mind you serve a useful purpose even when you are being rejected: It demonstrates that editorial control/story selection ARE NOT CENSORSHIP. Every time the nutjobs throw a shitfit because some publisher chooses no to post something by Milo Yianopolous I can use you as an example!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday May 07 2019, @03:27AM (3 children)
We'd probably publish a Milo article. Ari's just not famous enough. Think of all the ad click money we'd make!
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday May 07 2019, @04:24AM (2 children)
Oh, great! And how am I supposed to crawl out of this hole of ignominy if SoylentNews won't even publish me? As if my work on Solar System theory was not enough!
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Tuesday May 07 2019, @08:33AM
This is the Age of Social Media. When anybody can have 15 seconds of fame. You want more than that, you have to be smart. And, it takes a little money. Get yourself a GOOD Social Media Director. He'll buy you some Friends( Followers). Buy you some Reposts(Retweets ). And before you know it, you're message will be EVERYWHERE!!!!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday May 08 2019, @04:14AM
You know, fake rDT has a point. The actual rDT is way better at cyber than you. Which is pretty damned funny since all he does is shit talk, shitpost, and troll.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday May 04 2019, @09:21PM (13 children)
a catholic sovranists school right here? THANK YOU ARI I GO SIGN UP NAO.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by aristarchus on Saturday May 04 2019, @10:16PM (12 children)
Could be worse!
AG Bill Barr has ties to ultra-conservative Catholic Opus Dei — and that could explain his ‘ends justify the means’ corruption [rawstory.com]
Oh, it is.
Ever notice how many rich and conservative people (Newt, Thiel, Eric Prince, for instance) have converted to Catholicism of late?
(Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday May 04 2019, @10:31PM (11 children)
Opus dei is ultra conservative catholic now? they deal with mammon...
> Ever notice how many rich and conservative people (Newt, Thiel, Eric Prince, for instance) have converted to Catholicism of late?
nice!
Which brand of Catholicism? actual or popefranciscan? Because well the latter is quite easy to follow: smile and do nothing.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday May 05 2019, @04:53AM (10 children)
Define "actual" Catholic, you frothing lunatic.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Sunday May 05 2019, @06:56AM (2 children)
Unfortunately, according to the Wikipedia, [wikipedia.org]
Google Escrivá.
And I always recommend Pan's Labyrinth [imdb.com] for a taste of how lovely the alt-right (Fascists) were under Franco.
NO ONE Expects the Spanish Inquisition, but those who do expect it are proto-fascists. Those kind of Catholics.
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 05 2019, @12:20PM (1 child)
You can recommend that but it misses the important historical context of communists murdering and raping people. Communist violence was the pivot that propelled fascists to power in Italy, Germany and Spain. In Spain, the "agrarian reform" or white terror was preempted by the red terror and the seemingly random murder of innocent people. You're not only disingenuous to consistently point at Fascist violence when Marxism has revolutionary violence at it's core but also when you persistently attempt to link individualist ideologies to fascism (literally collectivism).
From the rapes of the occupy movement [thefeministwire.com] through gamergate [twitter.com] to the psychopathy [spectator.org] of the womans march; people on the left collectivize because they are awful individuals. Taken in the wider context of objective reality, your claimed morality and ethics are anything but.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @06:06AM
Wow! "Snowflake triggered on aisle eleven! Bring buckets!" So where did they rape you, AC? Show us on the doll. Why, yes, it is a Che Guevera doll, is that a problem?
(Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday May 05 2019, @12:39PM (5 children)
No-tape-recorder-but-featuring-followers-eaten-by-lions Jesus: "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations"
hot-standby-pope Francis: "The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings"
Notice the clarity of the first and the muddying of at least three separate issues in the second, no matter which one you prefer.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 06 2019, @02:35AM (2 children)
> Jesus: ...
> Francis: ...
How about someone from the Enlightenment--
Voltaire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire#Religious_views [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by Bot on Monday May 06 2019, @08:38AM (1 child)
The gospel, public address from Jesus, so, as much ex cathedra as possible: "But as for you, do not be called 'Rabbi,' because you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers"
you ARE all brothers.
Problem, this does mandate respect for THE PERSON, while Voltaire possibly and others surely, derive that the equal dignity of creatures imply each and every idea of theirs is equivalent. NO. This opens the doors to heresies, flat earth and systemd.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 06 2019, @08:59AM
[pulls .454 Casull, fires directly into brainpan (CPU) of Bot.] Only good bot, is a not thinking bot. Synthetics are not equal, not matter how much they may brainwash themselves into thinking so.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday May 06 2019, @02:37PM (1 child)
Pop quiz, rustbucket! What year was Catholicism established? Give you a hint: it wasn't ~33CE.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday May 09 2019, @09:34AM
The kingdom of God starts with the guy saying: "Truly this man was the Son of God". However the clerics decide to call it later, to tell it from the heretics, which started well ahead of that, with Eve basically, is scarcely relevant.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Tuesday May 07 2019, @07:55AM
You have Roman Catholic Church -- Pope Francis (a humble man, much like me). And, you have Robot Catholic Church. The actual for him, I assume it's the 2nd. one. It would have to be the 2nd., right?
(Score: 2) by mrpg on Saturday May 04 2019, @09:59PM (7 children)
There's more than one editor. If no one picks a sub, it gets deleted in two weeks.
In case someone is unclear:
Why didn't you post my story?
https://soylentnews.org/faq.pl#wdypms [soylentnews.org]
I like STEM or random things, no politics.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday May 04 2019, @10:07PM (6 children)
How many tongues do you have, mprg?
(Score: 2) by mrpg on Saturday May 04 2019, @11:26PM (5 children)
My first language is Spanish, second is English, in which I think I'm very proficient, and third French, I don't use it often so I'd say I'm 33% good at it.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday May 04 2019, @11:53PM (2 children)
Mon Dieu! Tray bueno!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 05 2019, @12:37AM (1 child)
¡ay guey!
(Score: 2) by mrpg on Sunday May 05 2019, @01:01AM
¡chido mano!
(Score: 0, Troll) by NPC-131072 on Sunday May 05 2019, @12:42AM (1 child)
te saludamos mrpg
(Score: 2) by mrpg on Sunday May 05 2019, @01:02AM
Gracias a todos.
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by khallow on Sunday May 05 2019, @04:48PM (5 children)
Maybe when Trump leaves in oh, 2021 or 2025, you'll come to your senses (probably for the first time) and post something worth reading? One can hope.
I do wonder how much of today's problems in the US can be traced to a significant fraction of the US population going insane (with that derangement syndrome) every time a new president is elected?
(Score: 2, Offtopic) by aristarchus on Sunday May 05 2019, @06:36PM (3 children)
The obvious rebuttal is that khallow is afflicted by ADS, the aristarchus Derangement Syndrome. There is no known cure, other than a Liberal Arts education. (And remember, the Liberal Arts are the arts of a liberum hominem, a free person. If you hate the Liberal Arts, you hate Freedom!! (my face being painted blue, for this one!(:{))
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 05 2019, @09:28PM (2 children)
Well, it hasn't been much of an infliction once I learned how to killfile you. I have a lot more control over how much aristarchus I get in my SN diet. I'm pleased to report that it is now at a healthy level.
(Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Sunday May 05 2019, @11:37PM (1 child)
Killfile? Oh, my dear khallow! And after I friended you, and everything!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10 2019, @03:10PM
Leeches, ticks, fleas, and mosquitos are always friending me, just like Aristarchus.
(Score: 2) by mrpg on Sunday May 05 2019, @11:13PM
Data on behavioral health in the United States
https://www.apa.org/helpcenter/data-behavioral-health [apa.org]
(Score: 3, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Monday May 06 2019, @09:59AM
He did another Sub about "boys." And, rejected. Not a surprise. I said, do some Subs with sexy "ladies." Stories about fabulous ladies. Or, Articles by beautiful lady writers( Beth Mole &others). Because that's what brings a big buzz. Editors love it, audience loves it, Sight Owner loves it. Not Boy Story. He didn't listen. So he failed very badly!!!!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday May 06 2019, @02:35PM (2 children)
Look, I'm a free agent. "Lost child in time" does not exactly sound like the description of a good duelling second, does it? I have my own methods, and I have to say they're more effective and a hell of a lot less rulebreaking than yours.
You have the potential to be a powerful countervoice against the growing, septic swamp of alt-right bullshit seeping into this place, but it needs to be done mindfully. Submit stories with a minimum of editorializing, try not to antagonize the editors, maybe even submit as AC using a proxy if you think you can disguise your origins...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday May 06 2019, @06:55PM (1 child)
You did wonderfully, Haruki! The first job of a second is to avoid an actual fight taking place. You did that by raining holy hell down on seconds of the other party in IRC. Sorry to have conscripted you, but thank you again.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday May 06 2019, @07:10PM
What part of "free agent" do you not understand? What part of "lost child in time" doesn't make sense? If you want me to be an ally, you need to start acting more like an adult. You are damaging your cause with how you approach the subs queue and I'm afraid you may have already fatally wounded any chances of making improvements here with the editorializing. You're entirely correct, but too many people live and die by tone...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...