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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday October 03 2019, @11:42AM   Printer-friendly
from the gotta-watch-the-watchers dept.

U.S. to Collect DNA of All Undocumented Migrants:

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is developing a plan to take DNA samples from each of the undocumented immigrants and store it in a national database for criminal DNA profiles, they said.

Speaking to journalists on grounds of anonymity, DHS officials said the new policy would give immigration and border control agents a broader picture of the migrant and detainee situation.

And stored on the FBI's CODIS DNA database, it could also be used by others in law enforcement and beyond.

[...] Officials said they were in fact required to take the DNA samples by rules about the handling of arrested and convicted people that were issued by the Justice Department in 2006 and 2010, but which had not been implemented.

They said the program for collecting DNA was still being developed, and they did not have a date set for implementation.

Collecting and storing the DNA of people simply detained and not tried or convicted of a crime has drawn criticism from civil rights advocates.

"Forced DNA collection raises serious privacy and civil liberties concerns and lacks justification, especially when DHS is already using less intrusive identification methods like fingerprinting," Vera Eidelman, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, said in a statement.

"This kind of mass collection also alters the purpose of DNA collection from one of criminal investigation to population surveillance, which is contrary to our basic notions of freedom and autonomy," Eidelman said.

If it becomes okay to do this to "them", how long will it take before they want to do it to "us"?


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @03:06PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @03:06PM (#902296)

    The German empire didn't have slavery. Neither the Austro-Hungarian empire. Nor the Russian empire.

  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 03 2019, @03:48PM (3 children)

    I'm not even going to bother disputing those because you named three out of all empires throughout history.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @04:04PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @04:04PM (#902327)

      Awww he's back to the easily triggered manly man. I thought he might have had some minor progress with self reflection. Keep it dumb bird brain, never change!

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 03 2019, @05:08PM (1 child)

        You need to look up the word "triggered". Either it doesn't mean what you think it means or you're atrocious at picking up tone from text.

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        • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 04 2019, @03:51AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 04 2019, @03:51AM (#902534)

          Sup bird brain, do I look like a plumber? Clean your own shit clogged pipes.

  • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @04:40PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @04:40PM (#902343)

    German Nazis’ use of slave labor in industry... Up to nine million people, mostly Jews, were forced to work to absolute exhaustion.
    Way before that... The term 'Slavs' represented the slave industry in that part of Europe.
    You're an Idiot.

    • (Score: 2, Disagree) by JNCF on Thursday October 03 2019, @05:07PM (1 child)

      by JNCF (4317) on Thursday October 03 2019, @05:07PM (#902352) Journal

      "The German Empire" generally refers to the Second Reich, not the Third. I'm making no claims as to whether they had slaves or not, but I don't think any statements about Nazi Germany were made in the comment you're replying to.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday October 03 2019, @09:47PM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 03 2019, @09:47PM (#902445) Journal

      German Nazis’ use of slave labor in industry...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Empire [wikipedia.org]

      The term 'Slavs' represented the slave industry in that part of Europe.

      Good point! The Russian Empire was clearly involved in slavery because their thousand-year-back ancestors were enslaved [wiktionary.org]

      Slave - etymology
      From Middle English, from Old French sclave, from Medieval Latin sclāvus (“slave”), from Late Latin Sclāvus (“Slav”), because Slavs were often forced into slavery in the Middle Ages.[1][2][3][4][5] The Latin word is from Byzantine Greek Σκλάβος (Sklábos), see that entry and Slav for more.

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