He would have had to expose her to something in that meeting that would kill her in ~9 years.
Has there been any investigation into what approach he might have taken?
I could see carcinogens, but those are hit or miss and could easily result in collateral damage. Does anyone present know if he got her a drink for example? That would be an excellent opportunity to introduce something.
-- В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
Who needs Russians? We got people right here that will say anything [thedailybeast.com] [so much for all that "sworn testimony", eh?]. The dems better have something good, or their farce will completely unravel.
Take away quote for those with a sense of humor:
We're working very hard to protect the integrity of the investigation...
Like yeah... from public view
-- La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @05:07AM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday October 25 2019, @05:07AM (#911509)
Not quite. You have to get lots of someone elses saying that someone else says that someone else says he did it. Then, when people query you, you can point them at circular lists of websites that list other websites that list lots of people saying that someone else says that someone else says he did it.
And he must have, because so many people are saying he did it. It's just the same as the way they manufacture his racism and sexism and stupidity.
A good try to frame as "loaded" something that is totally irrelevant and inconsequential. As any troll, it falls easily when presenting the full context:
As Snopes explains, “The photograph is real. It was taken on 27 October 1986 by Getty photographer Yvonne Hemsey at a ceremony honoring the recipients of the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.”
The photo also emerged during the presidential campaign when the conservative outlet The American Mirror published in on Sept. 4 to assert, “No one accused Donald Trump of being a racist until he decided to run for president.”
So, it's true that the photo doesn't imply Trump has anything to do with Rosa Parks' death. But this is a special case of the more general statement "The photo doesn't imply any Trump/Rosa Park relation, not more than being once in the same place/same time together with the group of Ellis Island Medal of Honor recipients".
With the immediate consequence: "The photo doesn't say a thing about Trump being racist or not, you'll need to look for other arguments to make you mind about it".
(and let me tell you with the same level of authority as Runaway's: Trump is a racist prick - large grin)
No, Trump is a prick, but he probably not a racist prick. He'll happily exploit white contractors, right along with black, brown, or whatever contractors.
I did do some "homework" quite a while back. I found that Trump was a popular darling among Dems, right up until he decided to run against Clinton. The photograph in the submission?
The full, uncropped photo includes not just Trump and Parks, but also Muhammad Ali, Joe DiMaggio, Victor Borge, and Anita Bryant. (Parks died in 2005, and Ali in June.) All were receiving the Ellis Island Medal of Honor, which is given by the National Ethnic Coalition of Organizations.
So, do you really believe that Ellis Island award was handed out to racists? There are other photos of Trump, attending events with not-white people, some of them very famous people, if you look for them. For a racist, Trump sure went to a lot of trouble to cultivate not-white friends and acquaintances. He must have known at a pretty young age that he would run for the presidency when he became an old bastard, and spend his youth preparing the photographic evidence of his non-racist views.
That idea sounds even more preposterous when you consider that a lot of people really were incorrigible racists back then. Why would a presidential hopeful even BOTHER to hide his racism, in that day and age? Even Johnson is quoted as "We'll have those niggers voting for us for the next 200 years".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 26 2019, @08:49AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday October 26 2019, @08:49AM (#912014)
At least he is not a Runaway Racist Prick, like Runaway is, even though Runaway has Black and Hispanic coworkers that he does not think should be shipped across the border and beyond the wall, so that only white people could have jobs, of which he has just been laid off, in Arkansasias. Poor Runaway! Competent people, coming to take you job, since you are old and demented, and watch Fox News and actually read OANN, news for the mentally expired. Tell us again, oh knowledgeable Runaway, what is the population of China, and what is Flash Resistant Clothing, and where in the Brain is the source of Russian interference with idiots from Arkansas who are too stupid to realize they are being used to destroy their own country? We will wait a bit for that last part, evidently.
"Yes, when I was very young, I went into my father's company — had a real estate company in Brooklyn and Queens," Trump said. "And we, along with many, many other companies throughout the country — it was a federal lawsuit — were sued. We settled the suit with zero, with no admission of guilt."
Alright, so The Donald is going to put his own spin on it. But further down in the article, it is confirmed that there was no admission of guilt. So, 1973. The guy is a little older than I, but I was a junior in high school in 1973. The Donald goes into his father's company, and all the policies are already in place - he basically does what he's told.
So we are going to characterize this lawsuit as defining Donald Trump?
Sorry, I don't think so. Blame the old man, not the kid. Or, have we forgotten that we were all kids, once upon a time? Trump Junior took orders from Trump Senior, and as a result was named in a lawsuit. I don't see racism on the part of Junior, here.
"Like father, like son" doesn't cut it with me. Find something better.
If we were to follow that "like father, like son" bullshit, you can't possibly be any better a man, or any worse a man, than your own father. Your brothers are just like you, because they can't escape Daddy's legacy, either. If there is a single man in your family tree who engaged in the slave trade, in any manner, then you're a slaver yourself. Any criminals anywhere in your paternal family tree? You're just another criminal. Just give it a break.
:-) You didn't finish reading the post, about those five guys. This is his general demeanor. There is no reasonable doubt that he is a racist bastard. It is self evident on first sight.
-- La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @02:34PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday October 25 2019, @02:34PM (#911639)
Party affiliations are public, and being registered as a democrat while running for republican office is going to be an annoying, easily avoidable point for his opponents to bring up.
(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Thursday October 24 2019, @03:33PM (1 child)
He would have had to expose her to something in that meeting that would kill her in ~9 years.
Has there been any investigation into what approach he might have taken?
I could see carcinogens, but those are hit or miss and could easily result in collateral damage. Does anyone present know if he got her a drink for example? That would be an excellent opportunity to introduce something.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Thursday October 24 2019, @03:34PM
19...
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 24 2019, @03:56PM
We all know trump is a massively insecure coward. No way he would murder Parks himself.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Thursday October 24 2019, @06:59PM (7 children)
Nobody has to "establish" anything. You just need somebody to say he did it, and you're golden.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday October 24 2019, @09:22PM (1 child)
(Score: 0, Troll) by fustakrakich on Friday October 25 2019, @12:55AM
Who needs Russians? We got people right here that will say anything [thedailybeast.com] [so much for all that "sworn testimony", eh?]. The dems better have something good, or their farce will completely unravel.
Take away quote for those with a sense of humor:
Like yeah... from public view
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday October 25 2019, @12:34AM (1 child)
I'm golden, then. Here: "he did it!" (very large grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 25 2019, @01:58AM
We have to run him through the Kevin Bacon Game to get to the truth.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @12:40AM
Flamebait
Oh my! Another triggered democrat!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @05:07AM (1 child)
Not quite. You have to get lots of someone elses saying that someone else says that someone else says he did it.
Then, when people query you, you can point them at circular lists of websites that list other websites that list lots of people saying that someone else says that someone else says he did it.
And he must have, because so many people are saying he did it. It's just the same as the way they manufacture his racism and sexism and stupidity.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 25 2019, @05:30AM
You have to get lots of someone elses saying that someone else says that someone else says he did it.
Yeah... So we do! Ain't that funny how shit works out! [thedailybeast.com]
The only thing that's circular is their firing squad...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday October 25 2019, @12:32AM (9 children)
A good try to frame as "loaded" something that is totally irrelevant and inconsequential.
As any troll, it falls easily when presenting the full context:
So, it's true that the photo doesn't imply Trump has anything to do with Rosa Parks' death.
But this is a special case of the more general statement "The photo doesn't imply any Trump/Rosa Park relation, not more than being once in the same place/same time together with the group of Ellis Island Medal of Honor recipients".
With the immediate consequence: "The photo doesn't say a thing about Trump being racist or not, you'll need to look for other arguments to make you mind about it".
(and let me tell you with the same level of authority as Runaway's: Trump is a racist prick - large grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 25 2019, @08:12AM (8 children)
No, Trump is a prick, but he probably not a racist prick. He'll happily exploit white contractors, right along with black, brown, or whatever contractors.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @03:52PM (1 child)
Then you're not paying attention. Try doing some actual research on the man instead of projecting your own insecurities about racism.
Woops, replying to runaway. Did I just ask a child to do his homework? Fat chance me!
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 25 2019, @04:30PM
I did do some "homework" quite a while back. I found that Trump was a popular darling among Dems, right up until he decided to run against Clinton. The photograph in the submission?
So, do you really believe that Ellis Island award was handed out to racists? There are other photos of Trump, attending events with not-white people, some of them very famous people, if you look for them. For a racist, Trump sure went to a lot of trouble to cultivate not-white friends and acquaintances. He must have known at a pretty young age that he would run for the presidency when he became an old bastard, and spend his youth preparing the photographic evidence of his non-racist views.
That idea sounds even more preposterous when you consider that a lot of people really were incorrigible racists back then. Why would a presidential hopeful even BOTHER to hide his racism, in that day and age? Even Johnson is quoted as "We'll have those niggers voting for us for the next 200 years".
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 26 2019, @08:12AM (5 children)
Yeah, he definitely is a racist prick [npr.org]
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 26 2019, @08:49AM
At least he is not a Runaway Racist Prick, like Runaway is, even though Runaway has Black and Hispanic coworkers that he does not think should be shipped across the border and beyond the wall, so that only white people could have jobs, of which he has just been laid off, in Arkansasias. Poor Runaway! Competent people, coming to take you job, since you are old and demented, and watch Fox News and actually read OANN, news for the mentally expired. Tell us again, oh knowledgeable Runaway, what is the population of China, and what is Flash Resistant Clothing, and where in the Brain is the source of Russian interference with idiots from Arkansas who are too stupid to realize they are being used to destroy their own country? We will wait a bit for that last part, evidently.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 26 2019, @09:41AM (3 children)
I quote,
Alright, so The Donald is going to put his own spin on it. But further down in the article, it is confirmed that there was no admission of guilt. So, 1973. The guy is a little older than I, but I was a junior in high school in 1973. The Donald goes into his father's company, and all the policies are already in place - he basically does what he's told.
So we are going to characterize this lawsuit as defining Donald Trump?
Sorry, I don't think so. Blame the old man, not the kid. Or, have we forgotten that we were all kids, once upon a time? Trump Junior took orders from Trump Senior, and as a result was named in a lawsuit. I don't see racism on the part of Junior, here.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 26 2019, @05:31PM (2 children)
he basically does what he's told.
yep, still a patsy to this day...
Or, have we forgotten that we were all kids, once upon a time?
Yeah, it's not he was six years old. He's just a punk.
So we are going to characterize this lawsuit as defining Donald Trump?
Like father like son, he is following his footsteps right now.
Please. he's a racist bastard, still claiming those five guys are guilty when real evidence [damn word keeps popping up!] said otherwise.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 26 2019, @08:04PM (1 child)
"Like father, like son" doesn't cut it with me. Find something better.
If we were to follow that "like father, like son" bullshit, you can't possibly be any better a man, or any worse a man, than your own father. Your brothers are just like you, because they can't escape Daddy's legacy, either. If there is a single man in your family tree who engaged in the slave trade, in any manner, then you're a slaver yourself. Any criminals anywhere in your paternal family tree? You're just another criminal. Just give it a break.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 26 2019, @09:23PM
:-) You didn't finish reading the post, about those five guys. This is his general demeanor. There is no reasonable doubt that he is a racist bastard. It is self evident on first sight.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @03:00AM (4 children)
Trump was still a life-long democrat, and his party card deactivated his "racism" and "hatred".
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 25 2019, @08:11AM (3 children)
I would presume that Trump is still a registered voter. Has he re-registerd as an R, or is he still a D?
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @09:03AM (1 child)
How can one know, he didn't make public his tax statement.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @09:08AM
derp-a-derp - your party affiliation has nothing to do with your tax return
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @02:34PM
Party affiliations are public, and being registered as a democrat while running for republican office is going to be an annoying, easily avoidable point for his opponents to bring up.