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Newly-divorced mother who shot dead her three children then killed herself in a triple murder-suicide was an anti-gun violence activist who battled depression, anxiety, and lupus

        Ashley Auzenne, 39, was found dead Tuesday along with her children in Texas
        Her divorce with the children's father, Murvin, had been finalized just last week
        Murvin Auzenne Jr. said his estranged wife was 'was very upset with the result'
        She had been battling anxiety, depression and a host of other health problems
        Auzenne had also campaigned on social media to end gun violence
        Their bodies were found after a relative called for a welfare check at their home
        Auzenne posted a picture to Facebook calling for an end to gun violence in 2018

This is an alt-left mass murder, except she didn't (quite) kill enough to be "mass".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7642577/Newly-divorced-mother-shot-dead-three-children-killed-battling-depression.html

Father of slain Deer Park children 'devastated'

The father of three children who were found shot to death with their mother inside the family’s Deer Park home this week said he was shocked at the idea his estranged wife could be responsible.

Murvin Auzenne Jr. said he and his wife were nearing the end of a contentious divorce and “she was very upset with the result.” He said she was particularly distressed that she would not be able to move with their children to her hometown, and would have to get a job and pay him rent if she remained in their home.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Father-of-Deer-Park-children-slain-14574739.php

Deaths of Deer Park mother, 3 children ruled murder-suicide
The paternal grandfather of the three children found dead inside a home with their mother says their family is "completely devastated."
Author: Jason Miles
Published: 5:31 PM CDT October 30, 2019
Updated: 3:20 PM CDT October 31, 2019

DEER PARK, Texas — UPDATE: The deaths of a Deer Park woman and her three children have been ruled a murder-suicide.

Deer Park officials Tweeted the information out Thursday afternoon:

PREVIOUSLY: Deer Park police still guard the house where officers discovered four bodies Tuesday morning.

They were later identified by Deer Park police as a mother and her three children: Ashley Auzenne, 39; Parrish Auzenne, 11; Eleanor Auzenne, 9; Lincoln Auzenne, 7.

Police initially declined to say if they suspected a murder-suicide. However, they stated they weren’t pursuing suspects and that there was no danger to the community.

All of the bodies suffered gunshot wounds.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/there-are-no-villains-only-victims-family-speaks-following-deaths-of-mother-three-children-in-deer-park/285-159540e3-ef40-4bcd-aaf5-6dc532715642

After getting final divorce papers, anti-gun activist mother shoots her 3 young children dead: Police

As school staff at a Texas elementary school worried about how the children of a newly-divorced couple would cope with their new life changes, the mother of the kids shot them dead following her finalized divorced.

ABC 13 reports that authorities found the bodies of Parrish Auzenne, 11, Eleanor Auzenne, 9, and Lincoln Auzenne, 7, inside their Deer Park home off of New Orleans Street on Tuesday morning. After the Harris County Medical Examiner’s Office ruled their deaths as murder, detectives said that their 39-year-old mother, Ashley Auzenne, was the primary suspect.

After killing her children, Auzenne then turned the gun on herself, causing fatal injuries. Her death was listed as suicide.

Note how Ashely's friends makes excuses for her:

According to court documents, Ashley Auzenne was the one who filed for divorce.

One of Ashley Auzenne’s friends, Carrie Junot, called the woman “the sweetest person” who seemed dedicated to all of her children.

        “She was a mom, completely about making sure her kids were happy and taken care of. I know she was dealing with a bunch of stuff personally and medically…..She was the nicest person you could have met, opened her doors to people and advocated for her son.”

Another friend, Mary Dybka, reportedly said Ashley Auzenne was vocal about her disdains of guns and gun violence. Dybka said the pair would joke that Ashley was “more Yankee then Texan with her Democratic views and strict gun control beliefs.”

Dybka told the Houston Chronicle that her friend was the victim of emotional abuse.

“I know he had been extremely controlling and extremely verbally abusive,” she said, referring to Auzenne Jr.

Auzenne Jr.’s father, however, told CBS 11 that there is “no rational explanation” for what happened.

“When young innocents die like this, there is no rational explanation. We will never know why Ashley acted as she did, but we offer our heartfelt prayers to her family,” Murvin Auzenne Sr. said. “Until law enforcement completes its investigation, we ask the public to please respect our need to grieve our loss in private.

https://www.crimeonline.com/2019/11/01/after-getting-final-divorce-papers-anti-gun-activist-mother-shoots-her-3-young-children-dead-police/

And, that's how progressives will do ya. No guns for you, only for them. I'll give 100 to 1 odds the kids didn't have access to guns to defend themselves with. Another small-scale socialist monster here.

Also - do a search, and note the networks that are carrying the story. No extreme-right gun-nut here, so the US leftist MSM isn't interested in the story. Of the big networks, only ABC has it - https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-mom-newly-divorced-kills-young-children-coroner/story?id=66682355

A local Fox station, the NY Post, and quite a large number of fringe news networks, such as Heavy and FreeRepublic.

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  • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday November 04 2019, @05:26PM (4 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Monday November 04 2019, @05:26PM (#915784) Journal

    “I know he had been extremely controlling and extremely verbally abusive,”

    Stupid girl, she should escalate verbally, then shoot the man in self defense when he attacks physically and leave the broodlings alone. Like a police would do. Wait... maybe, it was he who actually did it? And inscenated a reverse reality with her.

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    • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 04 2019, @05:34PM (2 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 04 2019, @05:34PM (#915791) Homepage Journal

      We can agree on that! I have no idea if the husband was abusive, or that's just one of the stories used to justify the divorce. But you can justify shooting an abusive husband - you can damned near NEVER justify shooting a minor child.

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      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:06PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:06PM (#915814)

        There's no way the divorce would have worked out with her having to pay him rent if he was abusive - if she had any form of evidence or credible testimony to that she would have had a /huge/ advantage in court. There's no telling if there's a possibility of him being the killer, but usually spouses are the first to be suspected, and he doesn't really have a motive considering he "won" in court.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @08:58AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @08:58AM (#916182)

        ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

        The correct Spartan dialect ancient Greek for stuff like this is:

        ΜΟRΩΝ ΛΑΒIA

        So, now, zip 'em, Sailor!

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 04 2019, @08:11PM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday November 04 2019, @08:11PM (#915885) Homepage Journal

      Crazy people tend to not be rational. I know, it's shocking but true.

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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:31PM (20 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:31PM (#915828)

    When people think almost anybody should be able to have guns, it's because they consider themselves responsible, stable people and assume everyone else is like them.
    When people think almost nobody should have guns, it's because they're mentally so far off they can't trust themselves not to shoot someone, and they, too, assume everyone else is like them.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday November 04 2019, @11:00PM (6 children)

      by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Monday November 04 2019, @11:00PM (#916006) Homepage
      Is the same story as this one:

      http://provemewrong.com/news/Self-hating-gun-nut-posts-delerious-anti-gun-rants-before-becoming-an-hero-with-family.html
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      • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Tuesday November 05 2019, @01:25AM (3 children)

        by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 05 2019, @01:25AM (#916069) Journal

        Parked domain?

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        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 05 2019, @09:34AM (2 children)

          by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Tuesday November 05 2019, @09:34AM (#916186) Homepage
          https://did.you.read.the.url/?parsing=necessary&intention=juxtaposition
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          • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Tuesday November 05 2019, @10:14PM (1 child)

            by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 05 2019, @10:14PM (#916571) Journal

            It actually sounds like exactly the sort of domain Crowder would have. He routinely does a prove-me-wrong bit where is puts up some controversial topic and waits for people to come and argue with him on camera.

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            • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 05 2019, @11:14PM

              by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Tuesday November 05 2019, @11:14PM (#916595) Homepage
              One of the few things I respect him for. He is smarter, if not didactically, rhetorically, than the majority of the people he's likely to encounter at such stunts, so even if he's wrong about something he can come over as looking in the right. In particular as he edits the footage that goes on his shows. (Don't interpret that as me saying he's always wrong about everything by any means.)
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      • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:22PM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:22PM (#916279) Homepage Journal

        provemewrong.com

                      Buy this domain

                    The domain may be for sale! support@globalnamebroker.com

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        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 05 2019, @10:54PM

          by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Tuesday November 05 2019, @10:54PM (#916582) Homepage
          I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago.
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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @11:19PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @11:19PM (#916019)

      That's why I'm always suspicious of those preachers that loudly proclaim everyone wants to have gay sex or that if they didn't believe that God would punish them for their sins then they'd be raping children and murdering people guns akimbo. If those are the things they are saying out loud, I'm really concerned what lies beneath.

      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 05 2019, @09:36AM

        by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Tuesday November 05 2019, @09:36AM (#916187) Homepage
        What about the ones that preach that *noone* wants to have gay sex? They seem more numerous.
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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 05 2019, @04:17AM (10 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @04:17AM (#916122) Journal

      Or, maybe we're just worried about civil war 2.0 advocates like a certain journal author....

      • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 05 2019, @01:52PM (9 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 05 2019, @01:52PM (#916229) Homepage Journal

        Nobody's advocating for one. We're headed the right way to end up with one anyway though and you're one of the people pushing us towards it.

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        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 05 2019, @05:38PM (8 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @05:38PM (#916392) Journal

          By using my freedom of speech to state an opinion you don't like....

          Fucking snowflakes!

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 05 2019, @06:07PM (7 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 05 2019, @06:07PM (#916407) Homepage Journal

            No, by trying to get the government to infringe on one of our most fundamental civil liberties.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @09:20PM (6 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @09:20PM (#916538)

              trying to get the government to infringe on one of our most fundamental civil liberties.

              The fundamental right to kill all our own damn kids? The South Will Lose Again!

              • (Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 05 2019, @11:18PM (5 children)

                by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Tuesday November 05 2019, @11:18PM (#916597) Homepage
                He appears to think that the state of every nation remains constant over time.

                The longer he and his ilk, numerous as they are, pretend they're in the era of the wild west, the longer they will remain in the era of the wild west. Alas dragging people who prefer a civil society down with them the whole time.
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                • (Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Wednesday November 06 2019, @12:58PM (1 child)

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 06 2019, @12:58PM (#916785) Journal

                  He appears to think that the state of every nation remains constant over time.

                  Not much point to the observation, when one doesn't get how things have changed. Here, there just isn't much of a reason to change things, diminishing the rights of hundreds of millions of people merely because a few people die each year.

                  I think a better consideration of what has changed is the abuse of the Commerce Clause which is one of the standard loopholes that rationalize so much federal level law now.

                • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 07 2019, @10:04PM (2 children)

                  by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday November 07 2019, @10:04PM (#917549) Homepage Journal

                  I'll take Zane Grey over George Orwell, thanks. Every single time.

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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @07:52PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @07:52PM (#915868)

    Runaway should be held to journalistic standards since he is so fair and balanced. Post stories of people shooting themselves with pappy's gun. You don't want to be seen as an identity politics supporting fool right?

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:16AM (7 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:16AM (#916101) Journal

      Haven't you noticed the constant projection now? He's as biased as biased can be, which is why he goes, pardon me, all guns blazing with accusations of bias against everyone and everything else from individuals to entire media conglomerates.

      At the heart of all of this is a petty, whiny little child screaming "STOP SAYING YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME! YOU'RE NOT BETTER THAN ME! I'M BETTER THAN YOU!"

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      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 05 2019, @04:29AM (6 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @04:29AM (#916127) Journal

        White supremacy is the original identity politics.

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @11:54AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @11:54AM (#916201)

          If you say so, but I've always heard the tribe of Judah were Gods chosen people?

          • (Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 05 2019, @05:35PM (3 children)

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @05:35PM (#916389) Journal

            They never tried to pass any laws to that effect.

            • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 05 2019, @11:25PM (2 children)

              by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Tuesday November 05 2019, @11:25PM (#916602) Homepage
              And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give into his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son….But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. For thou are an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth… And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them… But the Lord thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them with a mighty destruction, until they be destroyed. And he shall deliver their kings into thy hand, and thou shalt destroy their name from under heaven….

              TIL: "lebensraum" is yiddish!
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        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:00AM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:00AM (#916685) Journal

          Hah, yes. And that's not just snark either; the hypocrisy of these people pissing and moaning about how, after they segregate others by race or belief or ethnicity, the groups they themselves created band together around those attributes and fight back, is incredible.

          Sure, sure, "identity politics." Well, what the hell do they expect when they specifically target people by {race/ethnicity/religion/sexual orientation}?

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  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday November 04 2019, @08:08PM (22 children)

    by Freeman (732) on Monday November 04 2019, @08:08PM (#915880) Journal

    I'll give 100 to 1 odds the kids didn't have access to guns to defend themselves with.

    Please note, you shouldn't be giving your 7, 9, and 11 year old kids unrestricted access to firearms anyway. That's just asking for something stupid to happen.

    The real problem here, is the mental stability of the mother. Would have been nice, if she'd been able to get some real help.

    Also, a random thing I found, when looking at something else:

    Heavily pregnant mother uses an AR-15 to kill a home intruder after two men burst into her Florida home, pistol whipped her husband and grabbed their 11-year-old daughter

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7647139/Heavily-pregnant-mother-uses-AR-15-kill-home-intruder-two-men-burst-Florida-home.html [dailymail.co.uk]

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    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 04 2019, @08:18PM (8 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday November 04 2019, @08:18PM (#915894) Homepage Journal

      Please note, you shouldn't be giving your 7, 9, and 11 year old kids unrestricted access to firearms anyway. That's just asking for something stupid to happen.

      No, it's not. That was in fact the norm outside major cities until very recently and bad shit happening with guns and kids was no more common than it is now. It was in fact less common because kids raised with guns are taught to respect guns and handle them safely. Cowards are causing the majority of juvenile shootings by not imparting this to their children as they should.

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      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Freeman on Monday November 04 2019, @11:28PM (7 children)

        by Freeman (732) on Monday November 04 2019, @11:28PM (#916023) Journal

        It's all well and good to teach your kids about guns, but it's also a really good idea to not let your kid have unrestricted access to them. They aren't mutually exclusive ideas. It's important for children to learn consequences, but the consequence of accidentally shooting yourself in the face, is pretty permanent. It's 100% the Adult's fault in child accidents, if the gun hasn't been properly secured. There may be some edge case where it wouldn't be, but that'd be some crazy set of circumstances.

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        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 05 2019, @02:31AM (6 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 05 2019, @02:31AM (#916084) Homepage Journal

          Safe gun ownership does not include locking them up so that it takes you ten minutes to have a loaded firearm when seconds matter. That is in fact the opposite of safe. No firearm in this house has any sort of impediment any more burdensome than a closet door or a nightstand drawer. Most are loaded. And no child has ever touched one, or even looked at one without touching, without permission.

          It is not a difficult thing to achieve unless you're trying to be your child's friend rather than their parent. You only need to impart two bits of information to them. First, they need to see first hand and up close what guns will do to a living animal. Second, they need to truly believe deep down in their bones that if they ever go near one without permission, getting shot will be the very least of their worries.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @10:33AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @10:33AM (#916194)

            Why do I now worry that Uncle TMB may find hisself perforated? There was the story, in the NRA's American Ammosexual, if I recall correctly, were a civilian detected some motion towards the foot of his bed, drew his "manhood", and shot the end of his morning wood off. Careful with your playthings, y'all!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 11 2019, @08:48PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 11 2019, @08:48PM (#919070)

            Uncle Buzz, you had better lock up your bang sticks when I come over for an extended visit with your toddler nephews.
            We are not born level headed adults who don't play with guns ever.
            I suppose he leaves out baskets full of razor blades to teach the kids a lesson, too.

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 11 2019, @09:52PM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday November 11 2019, @09:52PM (#919109) Homepage Journal

              Ain't no toddlers around or the guns would be higher than they can reach. Toddlers can't understand consequences for shit yet. As soon as they can, you'd better make sure they do though or you're trying to get them killed rather than protecting them. Teaching them about life vs. locking them in their safe space.

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          • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Saturday November 16 2019, @01:43PM (1 child)

            by hendrikboom (1125) on Saturday November 16 2019, @01:43PM (#920961) Homepage Journal

            It is not a difficult thing to achieve unless you're trying to be your child's friend rather than their parent.

            "rather than" is stupid.

            But it is possible to be your child's friend as well as being their parent.

            Friends don't let friends shoot themselves in the face.

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 16 2019, @02:08PM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday November 16 2019, @02:08PM (#920967) Homepage Journal

              Sorry but no. Until they're at least teenagers, you'd have to be severely emotionally stunted yourself to be anywhere close to as emotionally undeveloped as they are. That doesn't mean you can't like each other, love each other, and enjoy each other's company but it's only friendship if you're treating each other as rough equals. If you're doing that, you're fucking up massively as a parent. Your job is not to see that they enjoy childhood; that comes naturally to children. Your responsibility is to raise them to be good, capable adults and they're going to resist the shit out of that because it's extremely contrary to how any child is. The necessary mental pathways simply do not exist until they're taught. You can either do it as they become able to learn or you can force them to spend the rest of their lives building those pathways the hard way.

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    • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday November 04 2019, @09:07PM (4 children)

      by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Monday November 04 2019, @09:07PM (#915935) Journal

      Never underestimate little girls fighting big monsters:
      https://www.msn.com/en-xl/africa/zimbabwe/an-11-year-old-girl-in-zimbabwe-jumped-on-top-of-a-crocodile-and-gouged-its-eyes-out-when-it-attacked-her-9-year-old-friend/ar-AAJyDsR?li=BBKxJ6T [msn.com]

      As I remember, legendary Irish hero Cú Chulainn slained several grown enemies himself at the age of 5, cutting their heads off as a proof of warrior.

      It is just decadent post-modern West where children are treated as incompetent incomplete humans incapable to think and act properly. In 19. century British Empire, and many other Europe countries, children were mainstay of workforce for industrialization epoch of capitalism.

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      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday November 04 2019, @11:33PM (3 children)

        by Freeman (732) on Monday November 04 2019, @11:33PM (#916025) Journal

        There's some crazy logic going on in your mind, when saying a 5 yr old kid cut off the heads of warriors and then going on to complain that post-modern western society is decadent. Also, there are child labor laws for a reason.

        Next thing you're going to be complaining about is that modern London has cleaner air than industrial revolution London.

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        • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:15AM (2 children)

          by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:15AM (#916041) Journal

          No.
          I think Irish children should learn more about their own history and their own legends.
          And about slavery of Irish children in England factories, too.

          The City of London is a Seat of The Beast, no doubts in me about this.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:03PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:03PM (#916203)

            And about slavery of Irish children in England factories,

            Child labor wasn't slavery, the British led the way in the abolition of slavery for a reason. [bbc.co.uk]

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @07:08PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @07:08PM (#916445)

              The Irish were for all practical purposes, slaves. The British didn't see them as human, and instigated events such as the potato famine in order to more effectively control them. The British got rid of slavery because capitalism provides more effective means of degrading and controlling people.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @10:46AM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @10:46AM (#916195)

      When he came toward the back door in her line of sight, she clipped him,' King said of the moment his wife returned fire. 'He made it from my back door to roughly 200 feet out in the front ditch before the AR did its thing.' King's wife only fired one round from the AR-15, which struck the suspect as he tried to flee. When deputies arrived on the scene shortly after, they found the suspect dead in the ditch.

      Hmm. I think the lefties say you are not supposed to shoot them when they are running away. She's lucky she is in Texas, in a blue state she would be charged with murder. Remember kids, ALM, even if the Ls in question are thugs.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:27PM (6 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:27PM (#916282) Homepage Journal

        in a blue state she would be charged with murder.

        Well, better to be judged by twelve, than to be carried by six. I'll take the shot.

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        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @09:43PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 05 2019, @09:43PM (#916555)

          This be why, in the Old West, all the gunslingers knew to stay the hell out of Arkansas! They all be dry-gulchers, who think nothing of shooting a man in the back! Cowards and assassins all!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:28PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:28PM (#916826)

          So you're one of those assholes who dreams of murdering someone with your gun. Just need someone to break into your house and give you a reason.... this is why in most states it is not legal to shoot an intruder just cause. To stop psychos like you.

          • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:13PM (3 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:13PM (#916840) Homepage Journal

            this is why in most states it is not legal to shoot an intruder just cause. To stop psychos like you.

            No. It's illegal to defend your home, in some states, because lawmakers lack testicles, and fear people who do have testicles. No real man will abide his home being invaded. No real woman will abide her home being invaded. You don't call the law, if you're a real man, or a real woman. You drop the sumbitches in their tracks, then you call for a cleanup crew to remove the carrion from your home.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @06:47PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @06:47PM (#916909)

              Ok boomer, see you at the trial when your wife forgets to tell you she called the plumber.

              If it wasn't for psychopaths like you drooling over the chance to murder someone and get away with it then we'd never have these kinds of problems. Thought exercise for you, you want to murder someone and get away with it. Would that be easier to set up if you could claim they entered your home against your permission or harder?

              Is murdering someone for trying to steal your pearls a just action?

              • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 06 2019, @06:59PM (1 child)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 06 2019, @06:59PM (#916914) Homepage Journal

                I am the plumber, fool. And, the electrician, the mechanic, handyman, IT guy, roofer, landscaper, and everything else. The last person called to this property was called to dump about 7 cubic yards of clay gravel on our driveway. Now, if your wife is calling strange men to your home all the time, then you've got your own problems to worry about.

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                Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07 2019, @04:01PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07 2019, @04:01PM (#917368)

                  Manliest of men sentenced to 18 years after mistakenly shooting his wife after she came home early and surprised him. Neighbors are sad, but almost all of them had the same response, "It was bound to happen sometime, he was always ranting about stand-your-ground which is why we never went to their parties. Just can't be too careful these days." While strange for so many people to have such close replies, remember that they probably discussed the imminent threat living amongst themselves.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:03AM (40 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:03AM (#916037) Journal

    Fuck you sideways for taking this...this gleeful, ghoulish, corpse-molesting pleasure in parading tragedies around to advance your political agenda. There are no words to describe how low this is.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:19AM (39 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:19AM (#916042) Homepage Journal

      Do you write the same thing to every libby political who makes political capital off of mass shootings? If not, spare us all the hypocrisy. And, I've done it right side up, upside down, frontwards, backwards, sideways, and every other way I could imagine - but I'll turn your offer down. I just can't see that happening.

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      Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday November 05 2019, @01:02AM (37 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @01:02AM (#916061) Journal

        Actually, yes. I've been known to tell people to stop being fucking ghoulish and work on the problems at base here rather than parading it around.

        You, though, take this to an entirely different level. You're *happy* about this. You're fucking *gloating.* There are, again, no words sufficient to describe what a complete piece of shit this makes you.

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        • (Score: 2, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 05 2019, @01:12AM (17 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 05 2019, @01:12AM (#916065) Homepage Journal

          Well, if you write a letter to all the libbies who pray for the next mass shooting so they can advance their agendas, I'd be willing to pay for some of your postage. It must get expensive! I take it that you've contacted all of the current Democratic presidential hopefuls? I certainly hope you contacted Beaten O'Rourke!

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          Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:11AM (16 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:11AM (#916100) Journal

            Do you ever see him enjoying the carnage? No. Not like you. You enjoy this shit. That's worse than coldblooded, that's fucking sick.

            You seem to think everyone acts and thinks the way you do deep down. That sort of actuarial approach to people (if indeed it's anything so nuanced, rather that plain solipsism...) is a defining hallmark of a constant "defector" in game theoretic terms. Take your "asocial" ass out to the woods somewhere and disasturbate over people getting shot elsewhere.

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            • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:12PM (15 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:12PM (#916274) Homepage Journal

              Whatever else Beaten may or may not be, he is a pretty good actor. He certainly took full advantage of every photo opportunity after the El Paso and Midland/Odessa shootings.

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              Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday November 06 2019, @02:57AM (14 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday November 06 2019, @02:57AM (#916684) Journal

                So your argument boils down to an even shittier version of "well other people do bad stuff so I should be able to get away with just as bad."

                ...hah, no, it's not even that sophisticated. You're such a resentful whiny little bastard that your whole life revolves around trying to find ways to tell people "stop thinking you're better than me! You're not better than me! I'm better than you!" Gods, what a sad case you are.

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:34PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:34PM (#916829)

                  Probably because he liked Beto until he said take the guns. His broffair with liberalism betrayed his long standing desire to deliver righteous hellfire.

                  I still think rinaway is a shill, or at least some twenty something hitler douche truing to generate credibility. Or he's just the weirdest creepy boomer.

                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:06AM

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:06AM (#917130) Journal

                    "Weirdest creepy Boomer," trust me. His opsec is for shit :D This is all 100% genuine Runaway. He has a certain honesty about him, in the same way the crazy hobo on the NYC subway with his dick in his hand mumbling about the Reptoids from Zeta Reticuli planting a tracking device in his head does.

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                    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:19PM (11 children)

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:19PM (#916845) Homepage Journal

                  This "conversation" has not even been an argument, so my "argument" doesn't boil down to anything at all. This "conversations" has been all about 'Zumi venting her hatred of the man she wishes she could be. End of story. 'Fess up, if you could be a man, you would want to be just like me. You wouldn't take shit off of anyone, right? You would make up your own mind about what is right, and what is wrong, and live your life accordingly. FTW - that's "Fuck the World". Note, there is no allusion to people there, black, white, male, female, old, young - fuck all the world. If the world wants to get right, they need to learn to agree with me. Admit it, THAT is the kind of man you wish that you were.

                  As for ghouls - you eat meat? Once again, you lose your imaginary moral high ground. You're just another omnivore, like me. And, vegans and their ilk are prey. We might as well eat them, and enjoy them!!

                  Should I? Shouldn't I? The hell with it - no sarcasm tags here!!

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                  Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:05AM (10 children)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:05AM (#917128) Journal

                    LOL, what the actual fuck? I wasn't even baiting you intentionally or anything, but I love these sudden breakdowns and temper tantrums you have. This is some quality Alex-Jones-style frothing at the mouth ranting here. You really are a deranged son of a bitch.

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                    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:17PM (8 children)

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:17PM (#917338) Homepage Journal

                      Ho-hum. Nonsense as usual.

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                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:54PM (7 children)

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:54PM (#917364) Journal

                        Oh come on, you fucked up and spilled your guts again, and at this point too many people on this site know your true colors for you to "ho hum" your way out of it. That's the real you (that and that giant rambling wharrgarbl about how you'd rather see 50 million dead "progressives" than have "your grandkids be slaves to black and brown people.").

                        Face it, NO ONE hurts you more than you hurt you. You're a drooling crazy-eyed lunatic.

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                        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 08 2019, @02:24AM (6 children)

                          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 08 2019, @02:24AM (#917693) Homepage Journal

                          'Zumi, always on the attack. And, after all this time, you have nothing.

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                          Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
                          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 08 2019, @03:36AM (5 children)

                            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday November 08 2019, @03:36AM (#917721) Journal

                            Keep telling yourself that. You're harming yourself much more than I'm harming you, and all because you're such a fucking fanatic that you couldn't shut the hell up if your life depended on it.

                            What would happen if I ever started actually baiting or trolling you? What depths of insanity could I get you to sink to?

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                            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                            • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 08 2019, @03:35PM (4 children)

                              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 08 2019, @03:35PM (#917890) Homepage Journal

                              I dunno what depths of insanity you could sink to. Can you post your credentials online, by which you are qualified to judge the sanity of any person? You do blather a lot about crazy shit. We might suspect that you have spent a lot of time in the care of mental health specialists and/or psychologists and/or other pseudoscience professionals.

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                              Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
                              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday November 09 2019, @01:01AM (3 children)

                                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday November 09 2019, @01:01AM (#918119) Journal

                                "No u" didn't work in kindergarten and it doesn't work now :) Quit while you're ahead, old man.

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                                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 09 2019, @02:47PM (2 children)

                                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 09 2019, @02:47PM (#918256) Homepage Journal

                                  Let's consider this "no u" shit, and how it fits into a high karma score. For a person who doesn't need to learn anything more from life, you sure talk loud and proud. You're better than almost anyone, and certainly better than me, or anyone who thinks like me. Better, and you want everyone to know it.

                                  Are you sure that you're subscribing to the right belief system? I didn't think that Hindi taught that pride bullshit. You are well and truly screwed up, lady.

                                  --
                                  Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
                                  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday November 09 2019, @06:44PM (1 child)

                                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday November 09 2019, @06:44PM (#918357) Journal

                                    The only Hindi I know is some variations on "{bhen/bhai/baap/madar}chod" and "teri maa ki chuut," mostly because I was googling for something to say to all the idiot scammers who would call me up and insist my (Linux) laptop was infected with viruses/had an illegal Windows key/was running an illegal copy of Office.

                                    And, again, I never said there was nothing more to learn from life, just that I've learned enough of the right things so as not to need to reincarnate, in all probability. One human can NEVER learn all there is to learn. I know nothing of, for example, how to speak Basque or analyze seafloor sediment cores or perform open-heart surgery.

                                    Am I better than you? In some regards yes, in others, probably no. On balance, probably yes, but does it matter that much? I'm not the one who's been taken over by resentment and hatred from the "right"-wing.

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                                    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                                    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday November 10 2019, @03:28AM

                                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 10 2019, @03:28AM (#918509) Homepage Journal

                                      Am I better than you? In some regards yes, in others, probably no. On balance,

                                      LOL, you could try being honest - with yourself at least. I wonder how many other people you consider yourself to be superior to. And, for what reasons. You've got that love-hate thing going with 'Uzzard too - you seem to hate fishermen. Is that why you hate Jesus Christ, who promised to make his disciples "fishers of men"? (What a sexist, huh? He didn't promise to make them fishers of women! But, I have done a bit of fishing for women anyway, and caught some.)

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                                      Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
                    • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday November 17 2019, @01:10AM

                      by hendrikboom (1125) on Sunday November 17 2019, @01:10AM (#921134) Homepage Journal

                      You did start this thread in a way that sounds baiting to me.

                      Fuck you sideways for taking this...this gleeful, ghoulish, corpse-molesting pleasure in parading tragedies around to advance your political agenda. There are no words to describe how low this is.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 05 2019, @04:14AM (6 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @04:14AM (#916121) Journal

          I'm just wondering what rightwing terrorism he's trying to deflect from.

          Propbably Richard Spencer getting caught on tape supporting racist terrorism. [vox.com]

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Arik on Wednesday November 06 2019, @08:24AM (11 children)

          by Arik (4543) on Wednesday November 06 2019, @08:24AM (#916749) Journal
          "You're *happy* about this. You're fucking *gloating.*"

          I don't think that's an accurate read of him, though I'll confess I can see how one could come to it.

          But it comes off to me more a cry of rage and despair, coming from someone who perceives the world going crazy around him.

          A perspective I can find a bit of sympathy for myself.

          "I've been known to tell people to stop being fucking ghoulish and work on the problems at base here rather than parading it around."

          If you'd simply give him that advice, without throwing incendiary personal attacks at him constantly, you'd be more effective; both at potentially reaching him, and anyone else reading.

          --
          If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:49PM (9 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:49PM (#916837)

            I'd agree if this article was posted by someone else. Runaway has a history on here of veiled and occasionally outright bigotry and violent fantasies against those he perceives as enemies. He keeps posting shitty articles like this to somehow support gun rights??

            Nah, he is going psychotic and "angry about politics" is not an excuse for his behavior. He is wrapping violent rhetoric in his "asocial asshole" bit in order to normalize extreme behavior and make conservatives consider such as viable choices.

            • (Score: 1) by Arik on Wednesday November 06 2019, @05:38PM (8 children)

              by Arik (4543) on Wednesday November 06 2019, @05:38PM (#916880) Journal
              "I'd agree if this article was posted by someone else."

              Perhaps you need to learn how to quit making everything about person.

              You probably don't even know him, you've probably never met him and never will, all you have of him to deal with are the messages he posts.

              Yet each time you avoid dealing with the message by resorting to personal attacks.
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              If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:13AM (7 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:13AM (#917135) Journal
                Yeah, except, he's done that about a zillion times. Check out that wharrrrgarbling rant down below, and of course, I will be forever linking to this fascinating journal entry of his [soylentnews.org] whenever the need presents itself :)

                In case y'all're too lazy to click a link, relevant copypasta below:

                Alright then -

                A civil war will be uglier than most liberals have ever dreamed. Maybe uglier than the war-happy conservative capitalists have dreamed, as well.

                But, it might be better than allowing the progressives to have control. The so-called left is hardly any more left than the R's are, but they are strongly into authoritarianism. That left makes me look silly as hell with my claims of being an authoritarian. The REAL difference between me, and them, is the legitimacy of authority. If I recognize an authority as being legitimate, then I respect it. If I don't recognize an authority as legitimate, I fight it.

                Your left wants to create it's own authority by force. There is no legitimacy to either the force, or the authority which they desire. None.

                But, if the right stands by, and watches the "left" proceed, it's possible that the progressives could win. Chances are slim, but the possibility exists.

                Yes, I'd rather see twenty million dead liberals lying in the streets, than to see their progressive heros taking over this country. And, I'll willingly sacrifice five million dead conservatives and independents to put a stop to the progressives.

                The tree of life must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots, from time to time.

                And, welcome to reality, where most important decisions by nations are settled by force. As it has been for tens of thousands of years, so it will be for tens of thousands of years into the future.

                Have you ever considered the dystopias portrayed in much of science fiction? Have you never imagined one of those dystopias, in which death is preferable to living? The dystopia being offered to us by the progressives is one in which a child can be punished, and branded for life, if he so much as notices that his own skin is not the same color as that of his teacher, or one of his class mates. In this computer age, any "deviant" behaviour will be documented, put into a database, and NEVER forgotten.

                Progressives promise a number of things, which I fear, and despise, with their racial inequality ranking high. "People of color" vs "white and Asian". It's already real, it has made it into headlines. Follow that to it's logical conclusion - if you're brown, or black, you get a leg up in education, employment, in everything. If you're white, or Asian, you get shit on, and you're lucky if you can ever get a job cleaning septic tanks, or collecting garbage.

                The party, as well as the progressives, have forgotten Martin Luther King, who had a dream. They've abandoned his dream. Today, they don't want equality, they want vengeance.

                And, I, for one, am not willing that my grandchildren should be cast into some third-rate citizen role, to make those brown or black people happy. I side with King - my great grandchildren should compete with black, white, brown, and Asian for their place in life. And, the best man/woman for the job should win the job.

                Political correctness? I've fought that bullshit since I first heard of it. It was a Soviet construction - if you were in good graces with the party, then you were politically correct. Fuck PC. Seriously, just fuck PC. Progressives promise to enslave my descendants, at the expense of brown and black people. Just fuck them.

                Twenty million dead progressives? Make it fifty million - it's all the same to me. A future with slavery in it looks pretty damned bleak, no matter whether it's my descendants, or yours, or whoever's. We had a war, ~150 years ago, over a number of issues, including slavery. Today, "liberals" want to go back and explore slavery. Kill 'em all, and let God sort them out.

                The bunch of dumb bastards in charge of the Democrat party need to pull their heads out of their asses, BEFORE they spark that civil war. Once the first few shots are fired, there will be no mercy.

                When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. Maybe the AC you're replying to doesn't know the guy, but you, Arik, have no fucking excuse.

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                • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Thursday November 07 2019, @05:45AM (6 children)

                  by Arik (4543) on Thursday November 07 2019, @05:45AM (#917201) Journal
                  You can keep quoting it, but you've not shown how that justifies your rhetoric.

                  " A civil war will be uglier than most liberals have ever dreamed. Maybe uglier than the war-happy conservative capitalists have dreamed, as well.

                  But, it might be better than allowing the progressives to have control"

                  That's not a statement that would come from someone who fantasizes about a civil war. That's a statement coming from someone who sees the possibilities for the future narrowing to a handful of options, all of them truly awful.

                  He expresses ideas, many of them poorly thought out, many of them dangerous, that deserve criticism. But dehumanizing him is not criticism. Lowering yourself to that level doesn't counter his error - to the contrary, it renders you incapable of effectively criticizing him. You make post after post that appear to be intended to counter his bad ideas, but you almost never even mention those bad ideas. You just dehumanize him.

                  I don't know where this meme has come from; I know it's not you that's responsible but you seem to have a horrible case of it. And that bothers me because in other contexts I can see that you're reasonably bright, educated, thoughtful, and your heart seems to be generally in the right place. But somehow you've picked up the idea that it's ok to hate people. Even a good thing, to hate "the bad people." That it's ok to dehumanize your enemy. And that's a fundamentally wrong, and dangerous, idea. That's one of the worst ideas.

                  Whatever, I'm not trying to pick on you, if I didn't have good things to say about you to begin with it probably wouldn't disturb me so much to see you post like this. I've said my peace, if you two still want to keep up your banter I'll just do my best to quit responding to it.
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                  If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
                  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 07 2019, @06:02AM (5 children)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday November 07 2019, @06:02AM (#917206) Journal

                    You don't get it, do you :/ I don't hate him. I pity him immensely, I fear the circumstances that create people like him, and I know there are more and more like him by the day.

                    You're still insisting on playing this bullshit pearl-clutching virtue signalling game, it seems. The fact that he IS a human, and has been reduced to this, is what makes it all so awful. And the fact that YOU can read THAT, and say I'M the one who's out of line? Yeah, that's some kind of built-in deep-seated bias there. Look at his post history for fuck's sake! He has a long history of saying shit like this, and he goes completely mental and over the edge out of fucking nowhere, when he melts down and shows his true colors. This man is not thinking straight and he'd be dangerous if he had any sort of reach at all.

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                    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Thursday November 07 2019, @07:06AM (4 children)

                      by Arik (4543) on Thursday November 07 2019, @07:06AM (#917239) Journal
                      "You don't get it, do you :/"

                      I've been struggling very hard to get it.

                      The post I'm replying to helped quite a bit I think.

                      "I don't hate him. I pity him immensely, I fear the circumstances that create people like him, and I know there are more and more like him by the day."

                      This bit in particular.

                      You're devolving into incoherent personal attacks for the same reason he's devolving into weird rambling diatribes about how many people he'd kill (to save many more) in one or another horrible future scenario.

                      For the same reason I drink until my forehead winds up posting a zeroth draft I only vaguely remember thinking about starting, for me to discover in the morning and delete in horror, if it's a journal.

                      "YOU can read THAT, and say I'M the one who's out of line?"

                      I think you're both out of line, fairly often.

                      And I think that's not necessarily a *bad* thing; in reference to either of you.

                      It's important that we have the room to be wrong sometimes. If we aren't allowed to be wrong, we aren't allowed to take risks.
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                      If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
                      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:37PM (3 children)

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:37PM (#917353) Journal

                        Yeah, you're never going to get it. You wllfilly refuse to.

                        Look, I'm not a "nice girl." I tried that all through childhood and most of adolescence, and all it got me was abuse of various kinds. The older I get, the more worthless people I run into, either outright evil, insane, or like you, intellectually lazy and somehow deluded into thinking tone matters more than content. I've got zero patience for that bullshit.

                        The kind of people who prioritize tone over content come in two flavors: a few manipulative sociopaths (you see this a lot on the "right"), and a bunch of idiots who can't be bothered to think for themselves and are too weak and lazy to put in the effort. You are showing yourself to be the second type. Get it through your mainframe, bro'bot: you're not cool, you're not edgy, you're not superior, you're not more of an adult, and you're not even right. Cynicism for cynicism's sake died in the late 80s.

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                        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                        • (Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday November 09 2019, @07:41AM (1 child)

                          by Arik (4543) on Saturday November 09 2019, @07:41AM (#918180) Journal
                          "Yeah, you're never going to get it. You wllfilly refuse to."

                          Quite the contrary, I'm trying my best to understand and will continue to do so regardless.

                          "Look, I'm not a "nice girl.""

                          Yeah, I know. And I'm not a "nice guy" either. Call me anything you can think of before that.

                          "I tried that all through childhood and most of adolescence, and all it got me was abuse of various kinds."

                          I believe you were abused. I was too. It's a particularly shitty thing, in a particularly shitty world.

                          "The older I get, the more worthless people I run into, either outright evil, insane, or like you, intellectually lazy and somehow deluded into thinking tone matters more than content."

                          Oh, oh, I am stricken!

                          /me clutches his chest and pratfalls into the floor, undulating rhythmically to produce quite a racket through the thinly built stage.

                          Accuse me of what you want! but if you choose "intellectually lazy" I can only laugh. Oh no! You hit me very hard! And 3 metres to my right!

                          "The kind of people who prioritize tone over content"

                          But I'm not doing that.

                          Not at all. I have repeatedly, explicitly, said I have no problem with your tone. Every poster here is allowed, as far as I understand it (I'm not an admin I'm not even a paying member I just registered a throw-away email address booya!) to turn on the flamethrowers as they see fit and the counteroptions include moderation, foe and moderation penalties completely hiding posts, and so on so that everyone has every tool needed to deal with it all as they see fit.

                          My problem is indeed with your content. Because I know it would be a better use of your time and your intellect to create some sort of engaging content, rather than spending hours just trying to out-potty-mouth some sailor that got under your craw somehow.

                          But unlike the police, I've never threatened you with any sort of CONSEQUENCES should you defy me. You're a free woman, you do as you will. I'm a free man, I say what I see.

                          Osiyu, Shalom, Mahala, la Paz y la Amor.
                          --
                          If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
                        • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Saturday November 16 2019, @02:07PM

                          by hendrikboom (1125) on Saturday November 16 2019, @02:07PM (#920966) Homepage Journal

                          I would love you to prioritize content over tone. When you do that the results are wonderful.

                          But when you prioritize tone over content, which you appear to be doing in your initial response to Runaway, the result is only an amusing bunfight.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:16AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday November 07 2019, @03:16AM (#917139) Journal

            Arik, check the reply to your comment below and read that journal entry of mine where I quote him, please. You've been here for ages and you have no excuse to pretend you don't know the guy's true colors by now.

            This facade of civility is not only transparent, it's insulting as hell. We don't have time to play fucking tone-trolling tea party any more, God damn it. You know better, and the fact that you still think there's something to be gained by letting this kind of shit go on unopposed in exchange for some kind of nebulous Internet cool points or something speaks very badly of you.

            --
            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 05 2019, @08:33AM

        by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @08:33AM (#916178) Journal

        Truly you are a ghoulish idiot, Runaway! I am really sorry that nice people explaining to you does not help. You are a death-eater, a died in the ghoul follower of Kali and Voldemort, one who worships weapons as your ultimate saviour, as no doubt you have been contemplating. This is what happened to the Nazis [youtu.be], before it happened to the Trump supporters. Not something that any good Christian White Hermonasexual Republican gets themselves into on porpoise, or even on dolphin, but maybe on Dolph Lundgren [wikipedia.org], whose manly manliness even a trucker like Runaway could . . . .

        But where was I? Oh, yes, Runaway the American Nihilist! Truly he believes in nothing. This is mostly because he understands nothing, so as the ancients were wont to say, "intelligo, ut credam" is not an option for him. So, death cults. The Nazis could not possibly have succeeded in taking over Europe. Once they cremated the Poles and Slavs, and the other Slavs, and the Jews, Roman, Socialists, Homosexuals, Lefties, and those darn Bavarians, they would have had to find more death to eat, until being a Nazi party member without a UID less than 2600 would be grounds for liquidation. That really is all they had. No social justice program, no environmental policy, not even a workable education for the backwards rural uneducated! Just death, and more death. Kind of boring.

        Never saw Runaway for the Malfoy type. More of a Weasly, I would have thought, Hufflepuff, definitely. But now gone to dark side. The Orange Dark Side. Of Death-eaters.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07 2019, @06:46PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07 2019, @06:46PM (#917428)

    We find these manly men to actually be whiny crybabies. But don't take my word for it!

    Antifa violence is a completely made up conservative trope used to deflect away from the massive surge in radical conservative terrorism.

            People fist fight all the fucking time all over the place. It has never ever been news until conservatives needed a way to distract their voters from non-stop mass conservative terrorism. Imagine MSNBC running wall to wall coverage of the "conservative domestic violence epidemic", and every day digging into local prosecutor filings to show every single shitfuck who ever beat his wife. That's what this conservative trope is, an astroturfed narrative where asinine events are blown out of proportion for propaganda.

            I am always gobsmacked when a conservative tries to say something about antifa violence.

            There's only one question to ask and it shuts them up every time: "How many people have 'aNtIfA' killed?"

            The answer is zero. Because antifa aren't terrorists and aren't committing mass murder, like conservatives are.

            In America, just about all terrorism is conservative, and the terror attacks that aren't conservative in nature are generally a-political.

            99.9% of all terrorism related deaths in America over the past 15 or more years were caused by conservatives.

            This is why they try to make "Antifa" a thing, because they need a "both sides" justification for their own non-stop mass terror attacks. "Sure, that mentally ill kid with a MAGA hat shot up that school/synagogue/place where immigrants are, but antifa punched a man!"

    Explains your constant need to equivocate rightwing violence with the actions of your perceived enemies. Hell, just the fact that you consider democrats/liberals your ENEMIES is enough to diagnose your mental health issues.

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