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Iowa Poll: President Trump's popularity sky high among registered Republicans; more than three-fourths definitely plan to vote for him
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President Donald Trump enjoys widespread popularity among registered Republicans in Iowa, the first state that will cast preference votes in the 2020 presidential race, a new Iowa Poll shows.
The president's popularity has never been higher among registered Republicans who don't plan to attend the Democratic caucuses, the Des Moines Register/CNN/Mediacom Iowa Poll found.
His overall job approval is up 4 percentage points from March to 85%. The percentage of those who say they will definitely vote to re-elect him is up 9 percentage points to 76%.
“I think he’s doing a tremendous job, really, as far as I’m concerned,” said Wayne Sparker, an 82-year-old Lake Mills resident and poll respondent. "... I’ve been a Democrat all my life, but when he ran for office, when I could see what he was standing up for — for the borders and the different solutions he brought forth — I felt that I definitely needed to vote for him."
The findings come as the U.S. House of Representatives advances its impeachment inquiry into the president, an ongoing trade dispute with China and conflict over the way the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency regulates biofuels.
It also comes as a wave of Democratic presidential candidates floods the state — some seeking to convert disaffected Republicans and independents.
But these Republicans are sticking with the president, poll results show.
"A majority of every demographic group say they will definitely vote to re-elect the president, with the exception of moderates (47%)," said J. Ann Selzer, president of Selzer & Co. "All other groups stand with President Trump with strong majorities, not surprising given it is 76% overall."
Amy Potter, a 32-year-old Gilbert resident and poll respondent, said she doesn't pay attention to the daily ins and outs of politics, but she is a lifelong conservative and appreciates the thriving economy.
"At this current point in time, the way the housing market is and the way there are so many jobs available, I really do not believe America could be in a better place at all," she said.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2019, @04:36PM (10 children)
It really is sad and disappointing that anyone would still be supporting Trump.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday November 20 2019, @12:50AM (5 children)
Hell, he's fun. There's something stupid almost every day for us to laugh at. He's going to lead the US bravely into a storming recession the second QE4 stops ramping up. Oh, didn't you hear about QE4? - it's started already. Trump's at least been honest/stupid enough to almost own up to it even though the Fed haven't even claimed it exists yet despite the fact they're the ones mechanically doing it.
Yes, I should declare my position - I have no shares worth shit, so yes the world's stock markets (of course it will affect everyone - buckle up, coward!) can bottom out like a locomotive riding off the edge of a cliff. I might be persuaded to buy in after that, if that type of gambling ever takes my fancy.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @01:02AM
It's called QE4eva for a reason.
During the real collapse the stock market is going to go sky high, rising thousands or tens of thousands of a percent per year. Look at the Venezuelan stock index for an example.
So sorry, I think you are completely ignorant about what is really going on. In fact you believe the exact opposite of reality.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday November 20 2019, @05:52PM (3 children)
QE4... Is it this story [fortune.com]?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday November 21 2019, @12:37PM (2 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday November 21 2019, @05:12PM (1 child)
To be honest, I don't fully understand the mechanics of repos...
Black box financials. Bets on bets
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday November 23 2019, @04:20PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @12:26PM (2 children)
You know, if you get out of the bubble that CNN has programmed you into, you might actually see what the rest of us see. Trump is actually doing a good job.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @02:58PM (1 child)
*facepalm*
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @03:29PM
You shouldn't touch your face after your head was just up your ass.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 26 2019, @09:56AM
The point is, do not point out to Trump supporters what totals suckers they are. If we openly state their idiocy, they will double down with more idiocy. Have you read Runaway3456? Case in point. So better to commiserate. Yes, corn and soybean prices are the lowest in recent memory. Make Amberica Grate Agin!!! And, yes, minimum wage has not increased, and the Rand Ryan Paul Ayn Rand Ru Paul tax cut did nothing for no-one outside the 1%. Oh, great! Listen, Trump Voters, you have been Bamboozled! You been hoodwinked! Runawayed! [youtu.be] And what you gonna do about it?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Arik on Tuesday November 19 2019, @04:38PM (66 children)
I'm referring to Gabbard and Sanders, of course.
And have you been watching the 'impeachment hearings?'
Such an embarrassing time to be a Democrat.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 19 2019, @10:14PM (62 children)
Sanders? Moderates? Put down the crack pipe and step away slowly.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2019, @11:06PM (3 children)
Lul, and you claim to have a high IQ. 1st world nations would like a word, and I hear common sense took out a bounty on you.
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @01:45AM (2 children)
Wait, so you're saying sovereignty is irrelevant and folks from Alabama should have a say in Scandinavian politics? Fuck off and die, globalist.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @11:04AM (1 child)
Sweden is doing great: https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/33845-bombings-in-sweden-now-routine-muslim-gangs-responsible [thenewamerican.com]
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @03:49PM
So? That has nothing to do with what I said.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:10AM (48 children)
Sanders *is* a moderate by the standards of any civilized nation. You know jack and shit about anything not related to fishing, coding, construction and whacking off.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:20AM (44 children)
Drop the globalist shtick. You're an American, talking about American politics, Europe has no place in the conversation.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday November 20 2019, @02:45PM (8 children)
We are Earthlings! One planet, bub. Civilization can't expand without tearing down the walls.
Peace!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @03:50PM (7 children)
Then civilization can not expand. We are humans and humans are tribal. You're not going to change that even a little during your lifetime or even your grandchildren's.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:10PM (1 child)
Then civilization can not expand.
In fact, it's in remission, being treated as a disease.
Yes, humans are just another life form. Evolution will decide the path we take, but it doesn't hurt to make the effort to become civilized humans. There's an advantage in knowing when not to pull the trigger.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @10:47PM
Well okay but you're going to be tearing the walls down by beating your head against them. And civilization doesn't require globalism, just FYI. That's just authoritarian lies you've been sold. Different cultures should not be homogenized just so the people who've been sold on globalism can sing happy folk songs around the green alternative camp illumination source. That goes for every level from neighborhood to national.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:35PM (2 children)
Ha!
What simplistic tripe that doesn't pass the most basic historical analysis. Just the typical buzztardo "common sense" with zero critical thinking. Tell me, how did humans progress from tribes where we knew every member to nations where total strangers can feel a sense of comraderie?
Rhetorical question actually, just trying to lead the horse.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @05:09PM
Ancient aliens introduced mass slavery and religion, which provided the social fabric that master civilizations were built upon.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @10:52PM
You really think we did? Silly globalist. The more people you add and the more familiarity you remove, the less feeling of tribal affiliation you get. You already have a global tribe in that we all recognize ourselves as humans, you just don't like that it's so remotely affiliated that everybody only gives the barest of fucks about it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by quietus on Wednesday November 20 2019, @05:18PM (1 child)
Hmm. Was the United States not meant to be the great melting pot, avoiding the tribalism/nationalism that plagued and held back Europe, and which resulted in two extremely costly wars, coming close to complete destruction?
Have times changed, at least in flyover country? How so -- the article gives the impression the economy is humming fine under Trump, so it couldn't be the usual meme of being outcompeted of a job by globalism. Maybe it's immigration: has that become so much more uncontrolled since Ellis Island? Or is it something else: what is the most urgent problem according to local TV stations?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @10:54PM
We are, right up to our borders. Not one founding father ever even remotely suggested we lick Europe's boots and ask them what to do about domestic policy though. And you know who else doesn't do it? Europe. Which is to say, it's not a very good argument.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @03:04PM (5 children)
(((globalist)))
Blech, and here I thought you were just a self-righteous arrogant dipshit. Turns out you are infected with with stupid racism too.
For anyone confused by what I mean just try and figure out just what buzzy means by "globalist."
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @03:53PM (4 children)
It's not difficult. I mean anyone who thinks that what Europe thinks is remotely important to US domestic issues. Someone rooting for absolutely anyone except the home team. Traitorous little shit-weasels.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:12PM (3 children)
Traitorous little shit-weasels.
:-) A perfect display of just how tribal humans are
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @10:55PM (2 children)
Told you so. Mind you, my tribe actually is the best one. ;-P
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 22 2019, @12:56AM (1 child)
And, remind us, your tribe is??? As I recall, not Cherokee or Creek; was it Choctaw or Chikasaw? Definitely not Seminole.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 23 2019, @02:39AM
Chickasaw and Cherokee in equal measure by blood. Which wasn't an Indian thing until white folks decided it mattered, by the way. You could have five hundred documented generations all from Germany as your ancestry and still belong to an Indian tribe; they actually were social constructs. The feds say you're only allowed to be a member of one tribe though, so Chickasaw if you're asking what sort of ID I carry.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday November 20 2019, @11:49PM (28 children)
The only way that attitude would have even half a chance of working is if the US were the leader of the planet.
Guess what, carrion breath? We're not. And at this point in history the US is in the weakest position it has *ever* been in since the Civil War. Ivan, Muhammed, or Chang could tip this country into a clusterfuck of cascading autoimmune failure by knocking out a few key infrastructure points over the internet. Virtually no one trusts us internationally. We have the modern equivalent of Emperor Nero on the throne. We've been systematically alienating our allies, and in the case of the Kurds, outright betraying them.
I get that your antisocial personality and ADHD preclude you from ever having or understanding normal relationships, or even the basic principles of cause and effect, but you don't get to assume the entire world is a scaled-up version of you. Your solipsistic thinking does not fly in the real world. The price you pay for your lifestyle is having no one take you at all seriously when you start speaking of things like this, for the same reason no one takes a 13-year-old virgin seriously when he exposits at length about sex.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Redundant) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 21 2019, @02:08AM (27 children)
Bzzzt! Incorrect. Do you hear France saying to themselves "What would the Americans want us to do?" on every domestic policy conversation? Fuck no you don't. Yet we have to put up with hearing that bullshit from our citizens every fucking time. It's wrong. You know it's wrong. STFU about it already.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 21 2019, @02:50AM (26 children)
Does France claim to be the "leader of the free world?" Is it an economic juggernaut whose floating, fiat money is the defacto reserve currency of the world's petroleum market? Does it, in the past 100 years or so, have a propensity for interfering with the development of other countries for its own ends? (Not to say they're not guilty either by proxy or as minor parties to this).
You don't get it, and you refuse to get it. Again, that's fine, but don't expect anyone with more than a fourth-grade understanding of civics to take you seriously. Isolationism didn't work in the 1800s and it sure as hell is not going to work in a world as connected as today's is.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 21 2019, @04:14AM (25 children)
Oh, so you're saying that we're just so much more important than France that we should live our lives by their standards as punishment? Fuck off. You're wrong and you damned well know it. You're just making these shitty arguments to keep from feeling guilty about having the biggest national dick. Well get over it, sweetheart, because that's not changing any time soon and America don't follow any lead but our own.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 21 2019, @04:31PM (24 children)
God damn, you're hopeless. If the US had no influence on the rest of the world and every little bit of pollution and political wrangling we did stayed strictly within our borders, you'd have a point.
Reality. Does. Not. Work. This. Way. Take your "asocial" bullshit and fuck off to the woods with it and let the adults talk amongst ourselves. You are a child, with a child's mindset, and nothing you say on the matter has any more impact or truth than a long, wet beer fart.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 21 2019, @05:03PM (23 children)
Fuck that. They can take their opinions on how we act and shove them right up their asses. Now that don't mean I think we should try to shit on them any time it would benefit us but it damned sure does mean we do not ever place what they want anywhere in our decision making process. We should refrain from doing shitty things because we know them to be shitty things not because someone else might not like it.
Look, I'm sorry you don't like how we do things here but suggesting we should voluntarily outsource our ethics and morality to others because you like theirs better than ours is horse shit. And you know it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 21 2019, @06:09PM (22 children)
How in the name of Aphrodite's gilded whalebone corset do you get "outsource our ethics and morality" from "remember no nation is an island and what we do has global consequences?"
You're insane. Every goddamn time you post something like this you just illustrate exactly what I've been saying about you, that your solipsism, ignorance, and self-serving stupidity make you unfit to be taken seriously when you speak of these things.
If you were really serious about "refrain from doing shitty things because we know them to be shitty things," then the source of the knowledge that they are shitty things would not be a problem for you. As it is, US policy in regards both to the environment and to geopolitics has been shittier than the deepest part of the NYC sewer system for ages now, and it seems we need foreign powers to point that out. But oh nooooo, we're not gonna listen to any goddamn *foreigners,* are we, because that would be "outsourcing our ethics and morality," wouldn't it?
Christ. Don't pretend you have any principles. What you're really saying is "fuck you I won't do what you tell me." That's not a principled stand; that's never having grown out of your childhood.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 21 2019, @10:56PM (21 children)
You don't need an external source to know if doing something is shitty to someone else. Your own morality tells you that without even asking it. Even accepting external input on the matter is placing your own conscience in the back seat; doing what someone else wants instead of what you know to be right.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 22 2019, @01:27AM (20 children)
Oh good grief...you make Jordan Peterson sound like an accomplished moral philosopher.
So morality can arise completely independent of any theory of (other) minds, then? You can, from first principles, entirely in the solipsistic confines of your own little self-serving worldview, work out a morality and metaethics that functions in reality? No, of course you can't. I didn't think I'd ever see someone committing the central fallacy of divine command theory who wasn't actually a religious nut, but it seems you have an equally poor grasp of moral philosophy.
Okay, amuse me: How do you know that your morality tells you what the right thing is, how do you know that it's the right thing, on what basis do you make this judgement, and why is "accepting external input on the matter placing your own conscience in the back seat?" You may know less than the external input source or be missing key factors...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 23 2019, @02:44AM (19 children)
A) Yes, yes it can.
B) Because I choose my own morality. You do too, so I'm not sure what kind of crack you've been smoking to think it depends on anything outside yourself. It may have been inspired by outside stimulus but all morality is completely personal in reality.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 23 2019, @04:40PM (1 child)
I don't think I've ever made this suggestion before, but you might want to find a good black church and become a devout follower. In this case I think the bible would be a better guide than that little cockroach in a top hat you call a conscience.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday November 24 2019, @12:33AM
I talk philosophy with a couple of old black preachers every time I'm at the lake closest to my house.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday November 23 2019, @11:25PM (16 children)
You are in way over your head here. I get the impression you don't even really understand what I'm asking you.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday November 24 2019, @12:35AM (15 children)
Yes, I do. You just don't understand the topic you're asking about. Morality needs no origin other than "because I feel like believing that", because that's the answer it always boils down to anyway.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday November 24 2019, @02:47AM (14 children)
Individual decisions are made that way yes, but the machinery that produces those decisions is a complex, multi-tiered mechanism consisting of evolutionary, societal, cultural, and technological layers. *All* of it is external input. It is no more "outsourcing your morality and ethics" to consider other sentient beings than it is "outsourcing your perceptions" to trust your eyes when they tell you a semi is barreling down on you and you'd best move out of the way.
There is an odd dichotomy I notice in most peoples' thinking, that between themselves and the rest of reality. The Buddhist doctrine of anatman (non-self) is a good antidote: everything, including our current ego and perceptive set, is transient. We are not separate from our surroundings or our environment, nor from the consequences of our actions on the same. Causality isn't simple linear cause and effect; it's fractal.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday November 24 2019, @04:00AM (13 children)
And yet all those layers are utterly subject to the will of the person whose ears they dwell between. They can be regarded and discarded at a whim, for no more reason than "fuck you, that's why".
No, you alone are responsible for what you believe. Even if you choose to allow the will of others to override what you believe to be right, you have not abdicated that responsibility; it remains yours and yours alone. You can not rid yourself of even the tiniest amount of it through any means.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 28 2019, @01:30AM (12 children)
Are we just talking past one another here or what? I never disputed that the final arbiter of any given moral choice is the self; that, indeed, is the definition of morality.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 29 2019, @01:56AM (11 children)
Not the final, the only. You are the one who decides which bits of the millions of different moralities you see that you embrace. You can do it for well thought out reasons but most people do it just because it sings to them. Neither is more right than the other because there is no objective right or wrong in morality.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 29 2019, @03:02AM (10 children)
Whoa-hoooh, Dan...no objective right or wrong? Do you understand that you fatally undermine your own claims to making any moral statements whatsoever with that one? By your reckoning, morality is merely another class of aesthetic judgment.
Holy shit, I kind of suspected you were this sort of nihilist all along, but to hear you actually admit it explicitly...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 29 2019, @12:23PM (9 children)
Yes, that's exactly what morality is. Any argument to the contrary requires we not have free will at some point, which would make morality nothing but an illusion and this entire debate meaningless.
And, no, it doesn't mean we can't speak to moral issues. There's collective morality which is the intersection on a Venn diagram where most people's beliefs hold common ground and there's plain old arguing that your morality is fucked up. Neither require objective right or wrong.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday November 30 2019, @03:35AM (8 children)
This is amazing. You've somehow managed to argue yourself into moral nihilism, but then still insist there's some criterion for determining morality outside the head of a given individual--no, don't give me that "collective is made of individuals" bullshit, it's manifestly more than the sum of its parts or you wouldn't even be making the distinction in the first place. A little knowledge really is a dangerous thing.
And quite the contrary, moral realism does not require that we "not have free will at some point." You don't need to be a moral Platonist to be a realist, by the way; my own theory (scientific sense of "theory," not hypothesis or wild-ass guess) of morality specifically calls for it to be an epiphenomenon emerging from the interactions of members of an intelligent, social species with one another and with outside reality. That it's second-order relative to the minds producing it does not make it any less real, nor does it reduce morality to a simple aesthetic judgment as your half-baked and ill-conceived notions on the subject insist it must be.
Do you have any background at all in moral philosophy? I'm getting embarrassed *for* you reading your replies, as they show both your utter ignorance and your colossal sociopathy at the same time.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday December 02 2019, @06:47PM (7 children)
Nihilism? Not remotely. You just don't want to admit that I just teabagged you with my philosopher's stones.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday December 02 2019, @11:44PM (6 children)
You don't seem to know what words mean. Maybe you're correct that this isn't nihilism per se, as it's clearly not coherent or well-developed enough to stand on its own as such. So...it's what we have when someone who sucks so hard at philosophy and logic he can't even articulate a coherent worldview attempts to argue for a class of moral error theory? Whatever.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Redundant) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 03 2019, @05:18PM (5 children)
It's not even remotely nihilistic. You just don't want to understand what I say so you can keep thinking you're correct.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday December 03 2019, @11:37PM (4 children)
It is indeed nihilistic. You have stated that there is no objective right or wrong, that moral judgments are essentially another category of aesthetics. That is, there *are* no morals or moral facts. That is the definition of moral anti-realism or moral nihilism.
You aren't, of course, well-versed (or intelligent!) enough to make a formal argument in that direction; rather, you fall into this nihilism by default. In other words, you didn't even come by it honestly. You are not the Ubermensch of Nietzsche: you are a stunted, underdeveloped waste of a human body. The Buddhists and Hindus believe people like you reincarnate as animals, as you clearly are not making use of your human characteristics.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday December 04 2019, @04:16PM (3 children)
True.
False.
Your second claim is not logically supported by your first. I made no assertion that morality does not exist. My claim is that there are as many versions of it as there are human beings on the planet at any given moment. That is not nihilism. You are wrong. Make a different argument.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday December 05 2019, @02:38AM (2 children)
Look, idiot, if morals are just another category of aesthetics, then the very concept of morality is extraneous; it is literally empty, nil, nihil, null. It doesn't matter how many different versions of morality there are if all morals are, by definition, merely aesthetic judgments. You seem to have global, fatal difficulties with even the simplest logical processes.
The last few days have been very disappointing. Somehow, it seems I've managed to *over*estimate you, and I already held you in lower esteem than some things that eat soil.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday December 06 2019, @05:48PM (1 child)
See, your view is both nihilistic and factually incorrect. What I have stated is not a viewpoint but the literal, factual truth, short of you presenting evidence pointing out the place in the brain where a morality common to all humans resides.
You think that having unique moralities makes them mean nothing but you present zero factual or logical assertions to back that position while I offer that since everyone's morality guides their thoughts and actions, morality can never be meaningless.
Now, are you going to back your shit up or dispute what I've said with facts and logic or do I win?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday December 10 2019, @11:22PM
You're not even arguing in the same arena as I am any longer. What the fuck.
Your insistence that morals are an empty category and merely another form of aesthetic judgment renders every single "should" or "ought" statement you ever make utterly toothless, do you understand this? Any time you say something is wrong or ought to be different, everyone else is perfectly justified in telling you to piss up a rope because you have nothing to back those statements up. So it just seems ugly or displeasing to you? So the fuck what? What are you gonna do about it? Your worldview collapses instantly and inexorably into "might makes right."
If you want a single brain region where morality resides, you're out of luck, but I would direct your attention to the mirror neurons and suggest you study the theory of mind and what it implies. The brain is part of the machinery that makes morals possible; again, morals are an emergent phenomenon, one that supervenes on the properties of sentient, intelligent, cooperative beings. You may as well ask where the images on your monitor go when the computer is powered off. They don't "go" anywhere, because they are verbs more than nouns.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Wednesday November 20 2019, @05:09AM (2 children)
Um, the results are not in on the whole "TMB construction" thing. The Entire Refurbished Church could collapse, opening up a portal to the nether regions.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @06:18AM (1 child)
The Entire Refurbished Church could collapse, opening up a portal to the nether regions.
Not yours I hope!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @09:11AM
I think it's called, Diabolicum arsus, or Windows. There was a movie, Seth Rogan???
(Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday November 20 2019, @05:45AM (8 children)
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday November 20 2019, @05:46AM
I did preview, my vision must be getting worse :(
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @03:56PM (6 children)
Man, you can't say the word "socialist" in any manner except derogatory in the US and be anything but an extremist. That's just how it is.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0, Troll) by fustakrakich on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:30PM (1 child)
That's just how it is.
That's the attitude of a surrender monkey
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @10:56PM
Ha! Nah, it's only surrender if you're fighting for it not against it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Arik on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:47PM (1 child)
But his policies are not actually socialist. Objectively he's a social democrat, not a socialist.
This is a guy that cites MLKJ and Franklin Roosevelt as his inspiration. Now personally I'm not a big fan of FDR, not at all, but in today's context going back to FDR is a conservative, or even reactionary, suggestion.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @10:59PM
Nah, you need to read up on what FDR actually did and how much strongarming was involved. If we weren't Americans and so strongly inclined towards individualism back then, it could very well have Venezuela'd us to death.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @05:12PM (1 child)
Heh, I like the meltdown. Almost makes these years of The Dumpold worth it #winning
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @11:00PM
No idea what you're even talking about but then I don't really care either. Carry on.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2019, @11:40PM (1 child)
Sanders may be moderate by the standards of ... uhm, I dunno. Norway? Maybe? Actually, he'd be left of centre there, but details. Call it moderate left.
By the standards of the USA he's hanging off the left hand side of the bus, trying to lick passing bicyclists.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @02:13AM
One way to look at it is that he's not a Russian asset like Gabbard and Stein.... (grin)
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:33AM
Such an embarrassing time to be a Democrat.
Since '68, man
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 19 2019, @04:47PM (11 children)
A likely plurality of moderate registered Republicans (47%) plan to NOT vote for Trump. That's pretty terrible for Trump, actually.
And, since there's no link provided I'm guessing the survey also says that overall, Trump is losing. Cherry-picking registered Republicans is pretty obvious....
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Arik on Tuesday November 19 2019, @04:54PM (5 children)
They'll either hold their nose or stay home.
Or stay at work, in many cases. It's not always easy for working folk to vote in this country, even today.
A link would have been good. But I've looked at several recent polls in depth. Trump is easily the favorite, he'll win the (R) with no trouble at all and won't even need to start campaigning until after the (D) is assigned. The impeachment hearings are a disaster, and if it goes to the Senate it will be even worse. If the (D) goes, as it almost certainly will, to another corporate neo-liberal Trump will win it easily. Assuming he lives long enough.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 19 2019, @05:00PM (3 children)
Yep, agreed, but if 47% of the moderate Republicans stay home (or vote libertarian) Trump is going to lose.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday November 19 2019, @05:08PM (2 children)
The (D) needs to go to someone that can get some moderate votes, maybe even a few percentage points out of those 47% on top of it.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2019, @11:42PM (1 child)
I hope it is a candidate who wants to allow male rapists to decide whether they want to go to female or male prison. And also to teach male menstruation to preschoolers. This is a very important issue to many.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2019, @11:55PM
I hope it is someone who wants to extend the PATRIOT ACT spying:
https://medium.com/@fightfortheftr/congress-is-about-to-reauthorize-the-patriot-act-as-part-of-a-must-pass-spending-bill-7e5b6ddb9d05 [medium.com]
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2019, @08:07PM
Iowa has one of the highest split-ticket voting rates in the country (although it is dropping). You are also not factoring in that a good number of people in Iowa split their ticket to vote for Trump in 2016. Not that any of this really matters. Most people still aren't paying attention to the race or political news beyond headlines and we don't even know who the respective candidates are. It is well and good to say that you will "never" do something, but it is quite different when you are standing at the polls with an additional year's worth of campaigning and history behind you. Anyone who claims that one side or the other has got this locked-in at this point is speaking out of their ass, has an agenda or both (and there are plenty, especially when you look at the talking heads on TV).
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 19 2019, @09:14PM
Runaway is an idiot! Profoundly stupid! Just the kind of numbskull to fall for alt-right statistics!
So what percentage of Iowans are "registered Republicans"?
https://sos.iowa.gov/elections/pdf/VRStatsArchive/2019/CongNov19.pdf [iowa.gov]
From Another source [iowastartingline.com], we find numbers like this:
Dems 620,639; Repubs 644,142 No Party 710,584
So "registered Republicans" in Iowa amount to 644,142/1,975,365, or 32% of /active voters in Iowa, and only 76% of those will vote to re-elect Trump, or 489548 which amounts to 25% of the Active Registered Voters if the Corny State of Iowa.
Almost as misleading as when it was reported in 2012 that 80% of Blacks supported Obama, but 90% of Romney's supporters were white. Notice the percentages of different things? The old "Apples and Orange" fallacy. Runaway has fallen for it.
Vox [vox.com]
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 20 2019, @03:14PM (3 children)
Citations?
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @03:58PM (2 children)
Nah, Pintos. Citations were pieces of shit and slightly uglier.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:14PM (1 child)
No purple hulls either then.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @11:02PM
No worries, I like my peas long and outdoors. Preferably on a tree or in a lake/river.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Gaaark on Tuesday November 19 2019, @05:20PM (6 children)
You Can't Fix Stupid.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2019, @06:51PM
Trigger warning to all Canucks: Rob Ford.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday November 19 2019, @06:55PM
As the saying goes, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 19 2019, @10:16PM (3 children)
You're not using a big enough wrench then.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:12AM (1 child)
The wrench is fine, the problem is you won't fucking sit still...! :D
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @04:22AM
I sit still every chance I get. You must be assaulting the wrong guy.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @08:42AM
In my vicarious experience, the wrench just makes the stupid worse. But maybe I should switch from my pipe wrench to a different type or work on properly leading my target.