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Face masks can't go on forever. What we need is a vaccine to get this under control.
But then how do you know whether someone you're interacting with (and no face mask) has been vaccinated? Simple! Have an obvious mark on the right hand or forehead proving the person is safe. You can be sure of who they are. That they were vaccinated. And that they don't have any wrongthink.
Seeing anyone without the mark would be a huge indicator to distance yourself from them. Report them to authorities. Certainly not to do business with them. [Rev 13:16-18]
Fear will drive people to take the mark and report those who don't have it. And it will seem to be the wise thing to do. Even if it is actually a fatal mistake. [Rev 14:9-11] Thanks to the dear leader who made it all happen to keep us safe. Think of the children! Etc.
Such a mandatory vaccine, required for every person on Earth, would definitely not have any undesirable side effects. [Rev 16:2]
Disclaimer: I have not started any "Don't take the mark" messages prior to this journal entry. And certainly would not do so anonymously. The preceding is merely an opinion about how things might go. But I'll just say this:
Don't take the mark! It will cost you to refuse. It won't be easy to refuse.
More, if you find yourself in this situation and are reading this.
(Score: 5, Touché) by Aegis on Tuesday May 12 2020, @02:43PM (15 children)
They put a mark on their foreheads.
They worship a false prophet.
Then all of a sudden, plagues and locusts! [nationalgeographic.com]
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2020, @07:52PM
Could American Evangelicals Spot the Antichrist? The answer according to many Christian writers is "no." Here is an example of such. [benjaminlcorey.com]
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday May 13 2020, @12:36AM (13 children)
Danny's a lost cause. I've tried reason with him before and gotten nowhere. Nothing can be done with people like that except to wall them off and let them go (more) insane alone.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2020, @04:57AM (4 children)
Really? I thought he was on your team.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2020, @04:06PM (2 children)
Maybe it is time to.consider that conservatives are the truly tribal trogs.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday May 13 2020, @09:36PM (1 child)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @03:13PM
Libertatians are conservatives with some of the wackier fears removed. Often less religious nutjobby but not always.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:38AM
He makes some of the right humanist-sounding noises, but the motivations are twisted and evil and he doesn't hold those positions for their own sake. I doubt he understands them on a visceral level, either.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2020, @02:37PM (5 children)
Can I just get natural immunity from the virus instead of the vaccine according to your beliefs? I would much rather take my chances with that.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:37AM (4 children)
In theory yes, though we don't know yet how long said immunity lasts, *if* it lasts, or what the consequences secondary to infection are and whether, on balance, they would make natural immunity preferable to vaccination.
For whatever this is worth, I've been attempting a type of "crisis/stress load" vitamin regimen; nothing in the megadose range aside from 2-4g of vitamin C daily, but 2000IU (2.5x the RDA and half the tolerable upper intake!) of vitamin D3 and 30mg of zinc chelate along with the usual B-complex and magnesium. This may not work as well, or at all, for you as it does for me, as everyone's body chemistry is different, so don't take that as professional medical advice or anything.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @05:35AM
Thanks for the reasonable answer. I would expect that, similar to measles, a more mild illness leads to a weaker antibody response. Since vaccination induces a mild illness, I would expect it to result in a weaker antibody response as well.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:45PM (2 children)
Liposoluble vitamins (A, D, E, K) can become toxic [colostate.edu] on overdosing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 15 2020, @01:12PM (1 child)
I know that, yes. Which is why I've kept it to half the TUI, i.e., half the level at which people generally start showing symptoms of hypervitaminosis D. Honestly, I don't think the RDA is high enough for most things, especially not magnesium or vitamin C. But yes, the lipid-soluble ones are not to be taken lightly.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 16 2020, @01:34AM
On the contrary, they need to be taken lightly, if at all. As opposed to taking them heavily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2020, @06:46PM (1 child)
As much as you want to believe it does, reason =/ throwing feces and calling it victory
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:26AM
Which is what I've been saying to every single apologist out there, and do they listen? No~o...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Tuesday May 12 2020, @02:52PM (11 children)
It's fashionable.
https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/face-mask-culture-common-east-new-west [voanews.com]
After the pandemic is over, they should be promoted for anti-pollution purposes.
Aged well:
https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/who-dont-wear-face-masks [voanews.com]
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(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday May 12 2020, @03:31PM (3 children)
they should be promoted for anti-pollution purposes
Yeah, much better and cheaper than cleaning up the air.
We shall completely isolate ourselves into sterile bubbles and let our immune system atrophy. But think of the great economic opportunities that will emerge from the necessary infrastructure.
Maybe faces will be declared obscene, like pussies and tits. The evangelicals can work that angle.
What's the deal with burkas now?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Tuesday May 12 2020, @03:53PM
In the rush of zeal and haste, they will completely overlook declaring penises to be obscene.
The cloth used to cover those can be used for face masks and MAGA hats.
Then all facial recognition technology will have to be re-trained to recognize the newly uncovered parts.
Would a Dyson sphere [soylentnews.org] actually work?
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday May 12 2020, @03:56PM (1 child)
You can choose to put on the mask. But good luck getting a nearby coal-fired power plant, chemical factory, paper mill, etc. to shut down.
Also, particulates don't help your immune system. You can lick your keyboard or a toilet seat instead.
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(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2020, @04:58PM
No one cared who I was until I put on the mask.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday May 12 2020, @03:49PM (5 children)
Face masks (and clothing) will not go on forever if all textile output is diverted for the national priority of manufacturing MAGA hats.
Would a Dyson sphere [soylentnews.org] actually work?
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday May 12 2020, @03:57PM (4 children)
We can fix this by switching to MAGA masks. You don't need to wear any other clothes, just the mask.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2020, @05:58PM
MAGA hats are the equivalent of "idiot lights" on a dashboard.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2020, @09:46PM (2 children)
> You don't need to wear any other clothes
If you believe this, I've got a fairy tale for you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:48PM (1 child)
(lesson for takyon: try being less subtle next time, many will 'splain you what you meant)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday May 14 2020, @01:17PM
It's OK. They need to be given an opportunity to express themselves.
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(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Wednesday May 13 2020, @01:19AM
Now is the perfect time for a remake of Kekkou Kamen.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Tuesday May 12 2020, @04:03PM (3 children)
What we need is for state governments to start wrapping up this massive scam by opening up their fucking shit already. If anybody considers themselves to be "at risk" then they can stay the fuck home and be miserable all by themselves.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday May 12 2020, @04:31PM (1 child)
The whole fun and higher purpose in being miserable is in sharing it with others.
Would a Dyson sphere [soylentnews.org] actually work?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday May 13 2020, @04:58PM
Oh no, not just sharing. It must be totally immersive [indiewire.com]
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2020, @07:17PM
This [soylentnews.org] is for you, Eth! Mazeltov!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2020, @04:58PM
Wish in one hand, shit in another. See which one fills up at all.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2020, @05:31PM
Make face masks fashionable.
Ahegao face masks.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Tuesday May 12 2020, @07:22PM (2 children)
I'm sure the vast majority of MOTAS [urbandictionary.com] would prefer it if you [soylentnews.org] kept your mask on forever.
Have you considered a paper bag?
Just sayin'.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2020, @08:19PM (1 child)
Have you considered a plastic bag?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2020, @08:38PM
You mean like this documentary* [motherless.com] of you?
*No nudity, but it is on a porn site, so could be NSFW.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday May 13 2020, @12:30AM (16 children)
Explain to us, Danny, how this pandemic ties in with "the mark of the beast."
I've explained to you at least twice before that "six hundred threescore and six" is gematria for "Neron Qaisar," gematria being a method of assigning numerical values to letters of the Hebrew or Greek alphabets and thereby cyphering with them. In other words, Revelation is speaking of events that, from our perspective, *have happened almost 1950 years ago.*
You are using Scripture to lead people into behaviors that could very well get more of them killed. This means you will have their blood on your head at one remove. If you truly believe your God will call you to account for your actions, this journal post might end up sending you to Hell for one or more counts of murder by proxy. Do you want to risk that?
You don't even known your own sacred texts. People like you give Christians a bad name, and a well-deserved one.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2020, @01:54AM (14 children)
The preterist view is that Revelation refers to events around 70 AD. There's just one problem. Revelation was probably written around 95 AD, so roughly 25 years after the events it supposedly foretells. If it's based on the idea that Nero would return after his death, linking the events in Revelation to the siege of Jerusalem doesn't make sense.
Some scientists have examined the book of Ezekiel and believe he was an epileptic who interpreted his seizures as visions from God. The imagery in Revelation is fairly similar. You would have done better to suggest that people who didn't understand anything about how the brain works misinterpreted the images during seizures. That would be more logical than your preterist argument.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday May 13 2020, @02:27AM (13 children)
I know when Revelation was written, thanks :) I'm not a Christian (or Jew, or Muslim, or Abrahamic death cultist of any stripe).
You're actually hitting him a lot harder than I would have, though I suspect you know it goes without saying that he won't accept any naturalistic explanation like seizures. My maternal grandmother was a serious temporal-lobe epileptic and more Catholic than the Pope as a result. She even went to Lourdes for a cancer cure, which to no one's surprise but her own completely failed to work.
Danny is a cultist. He's beyond rescue or rehabilitation in this life, by his own hand and by his own choice.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Touché) by khallow on Wednesday May 13 2020, @06:58AM (5 children)
You're a modern R. Quincy M.E., Azuma, able to tell by glancing at their sarcastic posts under a microscope how someone's brain has died. "DannyB made a joke about covid and the Beast. Put cause of death as 'cultist', Sam. He's beyond rescue or rehabilitation in this life."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2020, @08:07AM (4 children)
But. But..People are *dying*. Doesn't anyone care?!?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2020, @10:58AM (3 children)
Of course khallow cares, he's not a monster! There's money to be made! What's the lastest on
chloroxymoroquinineRemovesmyears?(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday May 13 2020, @03:43PM (2 children)
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:48AM (1 child)
Close those open ports, then.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 14 2020, @01:01AM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2020, @09:13AM (4 children)
The irony of that statement is just too much having seen you prattle on about your own superstitious/spiritualistic/psychic nonsense at length.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:46AM (3 children)
The thing is, though, that *is* a naturalistic explanation to me :) Let me explain: I hold that the dichotomy between "natural" and "supernatural" is partly or even wholly false. What could possibly be more natural than God? *Actual* God, a truly universal, all-pervasive ground of all being, not Yahweh or Brahman or whatever else; think more like the Buddhist idea of "the Absolute." Non-personal, non-egoic, etc.
Briefly, I suspect the mind/matter dichotomy is in a similar position (because, frankly, I think it's the same thing by another name). No one seems to have hit on the idea that there could be something ontologically prior or primitive to both, that what we think of as "mind" and what we think of as "matter" are the same thing--and that both are more like verbs than nouns. So I agree with even the hardest materialist/atheist that there is no such thing as a mind without some sort of substrate, and go even further and agree that "mind" emerges from something else.
Think of it all as just different wave modes on the surface of the Absolute/God/Existence/whatever you wish to call it.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @04:18AM
Q.E.D.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2020, @06:23PM (1 child)
Unless you can scientifically prove your assertions you shouldn't go around talking about them as facts. Your views on spirituality most closely resemble my own, but until I have real proof I have to keep that clause in my head that it could all be bullshit, we might all just be temporary structures of atoms with nothing more than emergent properties of consciousness that disappear.
If you personally have enough proof that is fine, but don't fool yourself about how your speeches come off to others.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 15 2020, @01:10PM
I have mentioned before that I could easily be wrong, that the hardcore atheists might be entirely right, and that through some unknown process I've become mired in delusion on this subject. I do believe I've had more than enough firsthand proof, but anecdotes aren't data and I don't blame others for not believing it; they weren't there.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday May 13 2020, @09:58AM (1 child)
That's quite a feat, considering that people who have devoted their life to that study admit they /don't/ know. And considering there simply is no evidence available to settle the question with complete certainty.
The date ~95 is often considered probable, based on reasonable but far from certain assumptions. Like much of the "new testament" the earliest manuscripts are /much/ later however. It could have been written even earlier, it could also have been done much later, ~250 perhaps, shortly before the earliest manuscript evidence. A range of answers are /possible/ - scholarship argues over which is more probable, in light of what little evidence can be adduced.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:41AM
Call me naive, but I tend to give "the other side" the benefit of the doubt in pretty much any argument when there isn't enough evidence to conclude otherwise reasonably. *Could* Revelation be later than ~90-95 AD? Sure. But I don't see a problem with going with that date, in light of what we do know.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2020, @04:45AM
As a Christian, he believes that God will forgive every transgression he commits. Doesn't matter how terrible his actions are, as long as he is saved. Murder by proxy, violating the 10 Commandments, sinning all the sins, everything (except denominational-dependent interpretations of a particular passage on blasphemy) will just be wiped away.
Besides, the real number is probably 616 anyway. But then again, the different denominations can't figure out how many books are supposed to be in the Bible or how to interpret what text is in there, so what would you expect?
(Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday May 13 2020, @02:43AM (3 children)
The covid barcodes don't quite fit the bill. The credit report or "social credit" does, however, and as that expands it will no doubt absorb the covid barcodes as just yet one more aspect tied together through the principle means of social control - debt.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2020, @04:44AM (2 children)
About that mark, if you get it under duress, are you still damned ? If it does, doesn't it make god an irascible asshole ?
(Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday May 13 2020, @09:37AM
Doesn't it though? That's one of the basic problems of theology, although it should have come to mind long, long before you start worrying about obscure bits like this. One only needs a passing familiarity with birth defects or war or any of a number of other fundamental facts of life.
One of the key functions of religion from the start has been to give the human ways to continue to function in the face of such harsh reality.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 14 2020, @12:42AM
Yahweh *is* an irascible asshole. Just read the Bible sometime.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Wednesday May 13 2020, @06:51AM (2 children)
Because that would get heavy.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday May 13 2020, @06:32PM (1 child)
Imagine if a face mask went on forever, and it never got washed.
Would a Dyson sphere [soylentnews.org] actually work?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday May 13 2020, @06:47PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 19 2020, @10:42PM