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1. Send rioters to turn peaceful protests into something not peaceful
2. Send in unidentified federal thugs to harass / arrest people, with no record of such interactions -- because the situation is out of control!
3. Profit!
Sounds like a 3rd world dictatorship in action. Or China.
Wasn't this country founded with people protesting grievances once those grievances grew intolerable?
Racism is more deeply entrenched in the USA than I would have believed. Maybe because I'm naive white privilege.
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One more unrelated thing: the best way to help unemployed people would be a payroll tax cut.
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MATH AND ALCOHOL DON'T MIX!
Please, don't drink and derive.
Mathematicians
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Drunk
Deriving
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @06:22PM (11 children)
Last time Democrats had a problem with this guy [msn.com] they wore white robes. [twitter.com]
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday July 20 2020, @06:25PM (1 child)
Racism is more deeply entrenched in the USA than I would have believed.
Young people won't believe you if you say you used to get Netflix by US Postal Mail.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @06:35PM
Exactly my point. [theatlantic.com]
See also the recent Smithsonian infographic [redstate.com] that reads like some alt-right troll copied straight from 4chan.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday July 20 2020, @09:21PM (3 children)
Ok then.
If all that Confederacy nonsense is the heritage of the Democrats then I, as the local SN Democrat, hereby give my approval to remove all those statues.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @11:00PM
Except... Grant wasn't a Confederate. [pbs.org]
Joking over this one is too cheap - you didn't click the link in the comment you replied to did you?
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @11:28PM (1 child)
If all that Confederacy nonsense is the heritage of the Democrats
Wow! Talk about your hand waving dismissal!
Democrats are confederacy, going through a vain attempt at rebranding.
Divest yourself!
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @09:24PM
HA! Took a small army of democrats to mod that one down good!
(Score: 4, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:19AM (4 children)
Then in the 50s and 60s this thing called the Southern Strategy happened. That "hurr hurr dems are klansmen derrrrp!" horseshit hasn't worked since before the Moon landings.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:37AM (3 children)
Have you ever braved their barren, vacuous, dullscape and tried discussing something with the "woke" lunatics on the modern left? Hail to the King, [babylonbee.com] babies!
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @08:23AM (2 children)
The crazy thing is MLK would probably called an Uncle Tom and all other sorts of shit now a days. How dare he not just go full race identity politics and instead just advocate for equality. The bigot!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by catholocism on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:49PM
Lol, he would be smeared as a communist. He recognized that equality began with economic justice and when he began saying so he was assassinated. Read his speeches, it ain't just him having a dream, it was him beginning to channel Eugene Debs that got him murdered.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:45PM
You haven't been paying attention to anything but rightwing rags elevating the extremists to seem normal, similar to how ",every Tepublican is a literal nazi." Fits your narrative while projecting Republican identity politics on to your oppo e ts.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @06:34PM (59 children)
In general you are kind of conflating things. There's a difference between protest and revolution. The former is, now a days, mostly protected. The latter is illegal and generally punished severely. The founding fathers were not protesting, they were engaging in a revolution. And had they gotten caught or ultimately lost, they would have been draw and quartered and written into history books now a days as terrorists.
People have seemed to realize that standing around being peaceful doesn't achieve anything. The few major examples to the contrary, like Gandhi are non-examples. Britain, following WW2, was literally going bankrupt. They started "liberating" all their colonies left and right, including those with no independence movement whatsoever. India was huge and unprofitable.
So to the point people now a days people are kind of pushing towards revolution while looking for the protections given to protest. That is not how it works.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by turgid on Monday July 20 2020, @06:45PM (57 children)
You could argue there already has been one of sorts. Many countries (the USA, UK, Poland, Hungary, Brazil) have had Alt-Wrong revolutions brought about through the collaboration of all sorts of people like Putin, Banon, Orban, Banks, Farage etc. and they are deliberately stoking resentment, division and discontent to provoke things further,
What they miss is that their enemies, the "liberal elite" (oh the irony) like myself are by and large peaceful. We do things properly, through political campaigns, rational argument, and democracy. In spite of these people's attempts to undermine our democratic systems, we will resist peacefully, and ultimately they will fail. Perhaps they might even have a tantrum. It looks like Trump is on the verge of having one about now. He's already sent his Gestapo into Portland, Oregon.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @07:04PM (42 children)
Is there a need for a "-1 delusion" mod? But let me be charitable and show how the "property" from Locke's "life, liberty, and property" became "pursuit of happiness" [pursuit-of-happiness.org] in the liberal ideal. Permitting rioters to damage public and private property for over 50 days ain't it chief!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by turgid on Monday July 20 2020, @07:08PM (7 children)
You lot are all the same. 1984 and Animal Farm were completely lost on you and you are apparently completely ignorant of 20th Century history, particularly the parts about the rise of fascism, aren't you, oh brave AC?
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @07:35PM (3 children)
At least I understand the fundamentals of liberalism which is more than can be said for you!
Fascism arose in opposition to violence from communists.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @08:35PM
Sounds like TMB is tired of getting shit on for his stupidity and is now posting AC.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by catholocism on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:05PM (1 child)
Fascism arose by channeling the techniques of Edward Bernays, in an environment of novel democracy seeded by Woodrow Wilson, and shaped by the horrific nonsensical bloodshed of the autocratic orders insistence on the first world war, and the utter failure of laissez faire capitalism that was exposed by the stock market collapse the caused the great depression. If anything it was a response to the beginning of the shift from worker to consumer that was happening culturally at the insistence of business, as a means to monetize surplus and control emotional life by associating the purchase of goods with the fulfillment of desire. This denied the types of structural power change that would address the needs of the many and instead slapped band aids in the form of consumer goods on peoples sense of purpose and meaning. Fascists weaponized the void this left. We are still living in the fallout of this shift to commodity culture. George Floyds death was like a small earthquake that showed us how many layers of paint have been slapped on this structure, and how deep the facade runs.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:06PM
The failure of the working class to realize socialism during the Great War upset their would-be bourgeois masters, including Mussolini. The violence in Italy originated with the Biennio-Rosso and Marxist revolutionary violence was to precede the rise of every Fascist regime. Less "void this left" and more political destabilization deliberately engineered by the left.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @07:49PM (2 children)
This [wikipedia.org] is a link to the Fascist Manifesto. It was the manifesto laying out the ideals and values for Mussolini's fascist party. So in effect ground zero fascismo. What sort of values do you think are espoused? Wiki and the media both tell me that "[Fascism is] opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[4][5][6]" Look at that, three sources! It must be super true. Wiki continues, "Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.[9]"
Now actually do go check out the fascist manifesto.
What you might notice is that we've gone hardcore 1984. You probably agree with just about everything in the Fascist Manifesto. You filthy fascist! Of course I kid. It's full of mostly great ideas. So why are the fascists considered fascists? It's because of what they did in pursuit of their otherwise positive ideology. Fascism is not about left or right. It's about authoritarianism vs libertarianism. About the time a group of people are tearing down statues, destroying the lives of people who state 'wrong' opinions, actively working to demonize all opposition, being supported by widespread semi-organized violent black bloc efforts, and aggressively working to rewrite history - they've become fascists. And that is how history will record these people, as well as those that supported them. Isn't it indeed funny how societies fall victim to such without ever once realizing it?
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @08:20PM
I would add:
Now decode [twitter.com]
(Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Wednesday July 22 2020, @01:48PM
While mostly true, we're not going hardcore 1984. The manifestos aren't the ideology. It's the public face - you can't take these people at their word, ever. Because most of humanity has similar complaints, the public face of such a level of amoral authoritarianism is similar no matter where you are in the world. They'll promise what the public wants to hear. That's merely politics 101.
The real detail is in the ideology and beliefs (often secret) held by the leaders and the implementation (for example, what survives and what doesn't). For example, are the leaders expansionist/isolationist, how paranoid are the leaders (there's crazy and then there's levels of crazy way beyond what we think of as crazy), are established structures like religions and the military co-opted or destroyed?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by turgid on Monday July 20 2020, @07:13PM (24 children)
I see that Brave Mr Trump has sent the Gestapo in to Portland [theguardian.com].
Tell me that's not fascism, oh brave AC. And don't tell me it isn't happening because I know people there.
Pathetic.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @07:42PM
Good for you, there's videos of what's going on all over twitter. Last night CBP were inside the federal courthouse and only emerged when the mob attacked it, perhaps you can go and review the live streams? You'll find the first amendment protects peaceful assembly and not riots. If Wheeler and other so-called "liberal" mayors were discharging their duties in accordance with their oaths of office, a federal presence would not be necessary would it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @07:55PM (22 children)
Yup, it definitely fits the dictionary definition of fascism.
But it also fits the definition of a law-and-order type politician attempting to maintain order and prevent criminal activity from happening. And the property destruction [other people's property, unrelated to the issue at hand] portion of the rioting is clearly criminal activity.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @08:37PM (21 children)
"But it also fits the definition of a law-and-order type politician attempting to maintain order and prevent criminal activity"
You don't do that by violating Constitutional rights. You post law enforcement to arrest anyone who actually breaks the law.
Sad to see morons mix up fascism with rule of law, but I expect nothing else from MAGA turds, weren't you assholes whining about "thought crime" for the last many years when everyone shouted at you to shut up with our white supremacy garbage?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @09:06PM (14 children)
There is no right to riot, constitutional or otherwise.
And then get called "fascist" for doing exactly that!
Stop doing it then!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @09:23PM (13 children)
Agreed, but that is a strawman since protesters are being arrested for exercising their Constitutional rights. Try again dumdum.
No one calls anyone fascist for posting law enforcement in riot gear, they get called fascist when they attack innocent protesters, shoot people with "less lethal" ammo that breaks bones and has blinded a handful of people, and probably left some with neurological damage.
Back atcha you waste of a human brain.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @10:15PM (12 children)
Here comes the exit wound...
Here's the 1st amendment
Is there a constitutional right to attack government property that I'm missing? Why don't you quote the relevant text that you feel is being violated and we'll take it from there?
This is why sane people disperse when they're informed an assembly is unlawful. Law enforcement isn't climbing into Antifa's parents houses to assault them, Antifa are traveling to a federal courthouse of their own volition to attack law enforcement. If stupid is as stupid does, you're probably participating. At almost 2 months of this nightly bullshit, people may have had enough:
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @10:27PM (6 children)
That's odd. I didn't realize that asking questions was "rioting" [nytimes.com]. Video here [youtube.com].
That's not supporting "law and order." That's suppressing peaceful dissent.
Strange how you don't seem to understand the difference.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @11:33PM (5 children)
I saw this earlier. Asking front line officers questions about the constitution in the middle of a declared riot under dispersal order and when he's clearly being given a lawful order to back away is entirely normal. What next, barging into an operating theater during open heart surgery to ask doctors about the Hippocratic oath?
Perhaps you should write your own guidelines for LEO engagement? After all, a potential suicide bomber or active shooter refusing orders may just want to chat about Aristotle, Thomas Paine or Babe Ruth.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:17AM (4 children)
He wasn't on Federal property. He wasn't attacking Federal property or personnel. In fact, he wasn't attacking anyone.
But the first part is the important bit. Those folks have no jurisdiction there, other than Federal property. And while that's appropriate to a certain extent, the way it's being used is way beyond any reasonable action by the Feds, unless specifically requested by state/local government.
That you think such behavior is appropriate saddens me. Mostly because It makes clear that you don't care about liberty and individual rights. More's the pity.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:27AM (1 child)
Look at them, sociopaths grasping at straws. When this is all over there is going to be a housing crisis in Hell.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:10AM
But it saddens him [psychologytoday.com] Azuma.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:05AM (1 child)
Now do Timothy McVeigh!
Take it up with FPS [dhs.gov] who wouldn't even need to be there if Wheeler allowed PPD to do their jobs. A "Muh Peaceful (12 Officers Injured) Protest" [youtube.com] in Seattle last night too.
Oh noes, you poor fucking victim! Why don't you go and have a little cry and then come back and try your terrorism apologia again?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:09PM
Uh, Mr. AC [youtube.com] 👋
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:00AM (4 children)
Can't be having the subjects and rabble having access to that area in front of the courthouse! That's
RoyalFederal Property!!Since these "police" have no stinking badges, and really like that camo cosplay stuff, more than likely they are Betsy de Vos brother's "contractors": you know, mercenaries! Formerly known as Blackwater. Russian contact. Seychelles. And as with Tulsa, no accident that Rose City is the initial demonstration of the Special Boarder Guard Police/Army.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:27AM (3 children)
Another group of "peaceful protesters" set fire to a Portland Police Association building last night. They then tried to claim the police set fire to their own building which was about as believable as your conspiratorial guff!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:51AM (2 children)
Since you obviously can't separate the concept of peace and violence you should probably go take a nap and leave the discussions to the sober people.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:12AM (1 child)
Since you obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about legally, ethically or in general - perhaps you should try a nice long holiday on a psych ward!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @06:56AM
xoxoxo
Love and peace my friend,
apk
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @10:12PM (5 children)
And the route to solving the violation of Constitutional rights issue is for those who believe their rights have been violated to sue the atty. general for violating their rights, and let the court work out what violations occurred.
But, shattering store windows and lighting fire to parked cars is not the way to get the constitutional rights issue resolved.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:28AM (4 children)
And when the entire system is against you to begin with...?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:40AM (3 children)
Sue anyway.
The courts have righted many a wrong that was imposed by the executive branch throughout history. If the executive branch is doing something illegal, the court system is the way to correct the problem.
Need I remind you it was the court system that ended school segregation. And the executive branch fought the order as much as they could. But in the end, the courts order was enforced and segregated schools came to an end.
It may take time, sometimes seemingly too much time, but eventually the courts can rein in any overreach by the executive branch. But trying to attack, directly, the executive branch is *not* the way to go. Go through the courts, not head on at the cops.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday July 21 2020, @03:38AM
Need I remind you it was the court system that ended school segregation.
Need I remind you that it was people with the money to work the court system that took school segregation off the books, didn't really end it. See it's not just time that is consumed here. You gotta find somebody with money, and power. Nothing happens until then.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:47PM
The cops are the ones attacking protesters because they are too lazy and incompetent to do their jobs properly.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:12PM
The Lawfare Blog [lawfareblog.com] has a pretty good analysis of the legal/constitutional issues.
It's worth the read, IMHO.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Monday July 20 2020, @07:19PM (1 child)
It also appears that Arron Banks and Nigel Farage's little Alt-Wrong outfit want to cause mayhem [thenational.scot] and mischief [theneweuropean.co.uk] in New Zealand now.
Poor New Zealand. What have they done to deserve this?
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Tuesday July 21 2020, @03:32AM
Poor New Zealand. What have they done to deserve this?
They got all those different political parties to choose from. Must be very confusing. How do they decide?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:25AM (6 children)
Why do you place property above human lives?
Property means shit without the ability to use and enjoy it. You are elevating objects to or above the status of people. This is the root of all evil: objectifying people and giving objects the status of moral agents.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:25AM (5 children)
Property and businesses are often someones lifeblood and method of passing on generational wealth. You don't work your entire life to build a dream and allow a dumb sociopath to come and burn it down for fun. Lockean liberalism expanded on natural rights as common law expanded on natural law.
Are you looking forward to defunding the police so we can return to an era of blood feuds or should we just enforce the liberal rule of law we already settled on?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday July 21 2020, @02:44AM (4 children)
Actually, yes, I am looking forward to defunding the police...and reallocating the funds elsewhere so the cops aren't constantly having to be marriage counselors, social workers, crisis support staff, EMTs, and heaven knows what else on maybe 1000 hours of wholly inadequate training.
My slogan would be "unbundle the police" if anything, and the basis is simple: let cops be cops, and nothing else. Demilitarize the police force, get all that wartime and us-vs-them horseshit out of the training, and make sure they have a proper set of surrounding services to hand cases off to. THAT is how we enforce "liberal rule of law."
You're deliberately creating a false dichotomy here, and it's pretentious as hell to boot. As well, you clearly are not listening to what the "defund the police" crowd is saying. I wish they'd use another word (...like "unbundle") too, but it won't kill you to shut the fuck up and listen for once in your life.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:07AM
Ohh but I did - I listened to Minnesota AG Keith Ellison talk about it earlier. I can't imagine why he doesn't want police attending domestic abuse calls?
Guy I once knew raped his wife at knife point in front of their daughter and was later diagnosed with NPD. But what do I know? Perhaps you could explain why alleged narcissistic abuser Keith Ellison doesn't want police responding to domestic abuse calls? Is demilitarizing the police going to reduce gang violence and gun smuggling over the Southern border? Do tell!
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @07:00AM (2 children)
Even police chiefs are advocating for defunding the police. One of the first to do so was the Dallas police chief, although he didn't directly call it that. The list of things they are responsible for was truly amazing. And it appears it is getting real traction there too.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @09:34AM (1 child)
Police chiefs are appointed by political officials, which makes their role entirely political. It's the reason you often find a pretty big disconnect between the police force and their chief. The chief gets (and maintains) his role by playing politics, not doing a good job of policing. The two should be the same but, of course, they're not.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @08:42PM
Swiss cheese
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @07:35PM (13 children)
I'm trying to parse what you're saying, but it seems to imply that you think that the current wave of "liberal" intolerance aiming to destroy people's lives over words, and movements increasingly entering into the domain of overt violence is because of... Russia? I'd encourage you to, at some point, look at the media you're consuming. Don't just consume it by try to objectively consider their motivations based on what you see from their headlines and especially from their images. One of the softest propaganda 'tricks' is framing: who is shown doing what and in what fashion. So for instance you'll find the NYTimes will invariably show democratic politicians as walking in front of an entourage. That's because it triggers a subconscious queue in your mind of something be done - progress happening - while also leading. Those marketing 101 classes actually came in handy for something! And by contrast look at the framing you'll find of their "enemy". Once you notice this one little aspect, it emphasizes how much of the media is not about informing you but about pushing you in a desired direction - propaganda in another word.
But even just read the articles, and try to look at them somewhat objectively. The media is actively working to stoke racial tensions at every possible angle. In particular in many articles if you simply replace references to "white" with Jew, a good chunk of our media would look quite literally like Nazi propaganda. But so gradual has been the slide that most people don't even realize how far off the deep end we've gone. Or consider things such as the NYTimes 1619 project [wikipedia.org]. It's a "project" that attempts to turn the entire history of the United States into one lengthy racial rant and one they wanted to start including into the US educational system. The project has been absolutely eviscerated by numerous historians, which is saying something in today's time where not playing into these nonsense can often lead to brutal retribution. Some of the "fact checkers" that the NYTimes contacted have also come out and stated they vehemently warned against various segments of the "project". Presumably the NYTimes ignored them. The one positive is that it sparked the 1776 Project. [wikipedia.org]
Russia has nothing to do with any of this. The entire notion is even somewhat absurd. Russia is a relatively impoverished nation with at best secondary intelligence on America. American politicians by contrast raise billions in a blink and have access to massive databases detailing a disturbingly large amount about all of us. And the former somehow managed to remotely out-influence the latter? And with like 0.002% of the spend? It's just dumb and such a notion only works because people have become so uncritical of everything that's put in front of them. Unless the media tells them to be critical of it, then they'd happily believe just about anything - especially if it confirms their biases.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @08:41PM (6 children)
"Russia has nothing to do with any of this."
Not what US intelligence agencies have concluded.
"The entire notion is even somewhat absurd. Russia is a relatively impoverished nation with at best secondary intelligence on America."
Ah, a true gentleman of the retard club. Carry on MAGA idiot.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Monday July 20 2020, @10:07PM (5 children)
Change that to
"Not what US intelligence agencies want you to believe."
NOW you've got something intelligible.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @11:37PM (4 children)
Can you go one day without making an ass out of yourself? When the deep state is everyone but you crazies and a pathalogical liar you might be suffering cognitive decline.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @11:50PM (1 child)
Runaway is a QAnon follower? Or just the stupid redneck he's always been?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:39AM
You have to admit the Venn diagram for those is an almost perfect circle...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:18AM
Can you go one day without going down on a progressive liar?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:31AM
You should really look into the history of our intelligence agencies. Some of my favorites are MLK suicide letter [wikipedia.org] and of course COINTELPRO [wikipedia.org]. If you want to step away from the FBI onto the even more insidious groups you start to get things like MK-ULTRA [wikipedia.org].
US intelligence agencies have never been about intelligence or simply enforcing the law. They've always been deeply political entities. And the one president who was looking to roll back these agencies, likely the last truly social American president (perhaps excepting Carter, who was just completely impotent) coincidentally ended up with a bullet in his head. The only thing that's changed is that they've become somewhat better at covering their tracks. When you read how those programs were discovered it was invariably from a time when these organizations would have literally millions of pages of documents of incriminating evidence against themselves (keep in mind said documents need to be replicated for each field office, and so on). COINTELPRO was discovered by a group that broke into an FBI office and stole some of said incriminating evidence. Thanks to the internet, encryption, and restricted access now a days organizations can be rather more comfortable in their own security. And all that evidence can be deleted in a heartbeat, remotely, if necessary.
So we're left to rely more on insiders and on the occasional bungling idiot [wikipedia.org] so grossly incapable as to be unable to engage in even the slightest bit of operational security.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday July 20 2020, @09:23PM (5 children)
Freedom of Assembly means we get to choose to NOT hang around assholes.
Capitalism means we get to choose to NOT give assholes money.
Why do you hate the Constitution and Capitalism?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:35AM
He doesn't hate them, because that would require a certain amount of principles, knowledge, and critical thinking. No, he doesn't *care* about them save as means to an end (his own selfish ends).
It's the difference between a liar and a bullshitter. If the liar is Truth's rapist, the bullshitter is Truth's obese, impotent, slovenly, unbathed pimp, constitutiinally unable to appreciate the Truth for its own sake even.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @04:44AM (3 children)
Of course this is true. It's also literally the exact same justification that the fascists in the past would use to exclude blacks, Irish, and others. It was their right to choose who they wanted to hire or who they wanted to serve. If those didn't like it, they could just go elsewhere. And if the fascists happened to destroy everywhere else that was willing to service those folks - well I mean that's their right too. Great ideology, mate!
You don't even realize you've become the baddy do you?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:39PM (2 children)
Sounds like you just diluted "fascists" to irrelevancy. Words mean things. "Fascists" doesn't mean people who want to exclude certain ethnic groups.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:07AM (1 child)
Think more, knee jerk less. Why do you think people, then and now, try to exclude people? And often violently? It's because they don't adhere (or fit into) to the one true worldview that must be imposed upon everybody.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday July 22 2020, @11:29PM
Standard us versus them.
I doubt most racists worthy of the word have much of an ideology.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday July 21 2020, @03:22AM
Anybody can do a protest.
You need money to start and finish a revolution. Crowd funding? HA! The crowd ain't big enough, baby! You need finance from Mr. Big.
Here's his number, BR-549
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday July 20 2020, @06:50PM (4 children)
Where is there to go for treatment?
And, like with AA, how do you get them to take the "First Step"™?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @07:19PM (1 child)
Sweden, Byelorussia, Latvia?
Perhaps you can do what the Central Americans have been doing the last few decades, only in reverse. Do a migrant caravan to south of the border for economic opportunity and to escape political strife in the US.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday July 20 2020, @07:28PM
Sweden, Byelorussia, Latvia?
Hope they got a big couch
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday July 20 2020, @08:25PM (1 child)
When my psychoses gets out of control, I write more Java code. But maybe that makes it worse? I don't know.
Young people won't believe you if you say you used to get Netflix by US Postal Mail.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @09:29AM
As long as it doesn't bother you anymore, does it really matter?
(Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:33PM (2 children)
This is the difference between an executive order that says little and does nothing and one that is backed by administration power deployed on the street. I wonder where the man-power for these games are coming from? There must be a reason for the unidentified uniforms.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 21 2020, @03:36PM
Did you not get the memo? [thenation.com]
Attacking the Federal Courthouse [cornell.edu] to elicit a response and then playing victim when the response comes is sociopathic.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:05PM
I wonder where the man-power for these games are coming from? There must be a reason for the unidentified uniforms.
He deputized his tiki torch brigade to kick up trouble. ? Don't be so surprised... Watch how they "fight", like teen age street punks who have never been in a fight before.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:04PM (7 children)
Unless you mean violently and quite emphatically protesting with privately owned guns, cannons, ships with cannons, and the like? No, it wasn't.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday July 21 2020, @11:11PM (6 children)
privately owned guns, cannons, ships with cannons, and the like?
"Privately owned" Heh.. That's kinda funny, because when the time came to pay for all that, the was a small rebellion [wikipedia.org]
Some things just don't change
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday July 22 2020, @02:53AM (5 children)
A) Check your facts. A hell of a lot of the firearms used in the revolutionary war were ones that showed up and left with the individual soldiers. Not all of them but a quite non-trivial amount. Artillery and armed ships mostly came with the officers.
B) I don't blame em. "We're gonna do stuff without your approval or even input and make you fuckers pay for it" ain't exactly a very liberal way to start out. Understandable at the time but still shitty.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @03:26AM (4 children)
Artillery and armed ships mostly came with the officers.
ah, mais oui!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday July 24 2020, @12:12PM (3 children)
As opposed to with the rank and file, smartass.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday July 24 2020, @02:48PM (2 children)
Canon fodder
Be grateful Britain was fighting two wars!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday July 25 2020, @03:04AM (1 child)
The frogs don't count, they'd been more or less continuously fighting them for over a thousand years.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday July 25 2020, @04:03AM
:-) Ok, whatever makes ya feel good
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday July 26 2020, @09:40AM
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>1. Send rioters to turn peaceful protests
you said NO SARCASM
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