(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:23PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:23PM (#1042708)
But about 35% of the users here are authoritarians who are totally fine with "comply or die" and will sweep any inconvenient murders under the rug. The GOP keeps hammering their fear buttons with literally insane rhetoric. It is just amazing how conservatives keep murdering people yet think liberals are the problem.
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday August 28 2020, @12:31PM (#1043247)
Race is determined by skull shape not skin color. There are 3 recognized human races: Asian, African, and Caucasian. At least that's what we've been told, I think there is another one with elongated skulls.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @11:45PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @11:45PM (#1043013)
> As a 17 year old he was illegally carrying that gun of his (open carry is legal at 18 in that state).
Aren't they charging him as an adult? There's a hunting exemption for rifles and it'll be going to the SC as a 2A case if the prosecutor wants to try it on.
You are actually making my case here. Black folk should be armed, and the cops will stop no-knocking their homes. Black folk should be armed, and the cops will be afraid to stop-and-frisk them. Give the dark skinned people their second amendment rights, and they can defend themselves.
Thank you for seeing reality.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
GIVE THE BLACK COMMUNITIES THE POWER TO RESIST THE POLICE WHO MURDER THEM!
To quote Chairman Mao, political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. To deny black people the right to arm themselves is to deny them political power.
I want to see black people wielding the power to determine their own destinies. Racists, such as yourself, deny the black man any power. You want the darkies to stay on the Democrat plantation.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
It's no good when only one black guy in every thousand has gun. You arm them ALL. The stupidest cop on earth can understand that gunning down a helpless person in front of dozens or hundreds or thousands of armed witnesses is bad for his health.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
You are incapable of distinguishing between murder and self defense. No point in discussing anything with you. Please use your Anonymous Coward membership number to identify yourself when posting, so I know to ignore you.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:53PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:53PM (#1042842)
Runaway is incapable, well, just incapable. But here he is incapable of distinguishing between murder, and systemic racism in policing in America. Maybe he will pull his weapon next time he gets pulled over for white privilege, and be the next Lavoy Finicum.
And that is a lie. If you have never heard me argue against systemic racism before, you have seen it in this discussion. Gun laws are race laws. Cops can only victimize a helpless population. A disarmed population is a helpless population. Arm the victims, and they will no longer be victims. You want reparations? Let us buy an AR-15 for every black head of household in the United States. No more no-knock warrants. No more stop-and-frisk. The systemic racism ends when cops fear their victims. And, let us establish residency requirements for all cops. If you don't live in Kenosha, you can't police Kenosha. If you don't live in Harlem, you can't police Harlem. If you don't live in East LA, you can't police East LA.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
This may be one of those "stopped clock right once every 12 hours" things, but I'm in perfect agreement with you here :)
You have just described "community policing," which has been a plank of the "left" in the US (centrist on the global scale but what the hell...) for a long, long time. And your idea about arming everyone up is another way to level the playing field in the vein of what the "defund the police" crowd is after: closing the power differential.
When did you turn into such a pinko? :D
-- I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:37PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:37PM (#1042900)
Maybe you should stick to your principles instead of believing every rightwing outlet that drifts across your eyeballs. You keep saying you're against police brutality and such, but every time we have a story about innocent people being killed you always side with police and whute nationalists.
Aside from that, having every adult carry a firearm is impractical and given the current state it would be self defense for every black person to gun down an officer who so much ad raises their voice or touches their weapon.
LOL, no. I've lost even more respect for you is what I mean. How weak is your message that you can't even let it stand alone on its own merits?
And what's with this second grade "u mad bro" bullshit, anyway? This is what you're reduced to when someone catches you fucking up, it seems. In fact, looks like this one was supposed to be AC too and you forgot to log out AGAIN! Go take your anti-Alzheimer's meds and lie down, grandpa.
-- I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @04:25AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday August 28 2020, @04:25AM (#1043128)
Saddest day ever. You probably think Ariii and Azumaaa are sock puppeting which is why you feel justified. I think Ari posts AC sometimes, but I've been confused as him enough that I wouldn't make a real bet on it.
Sorry Rrruuunaway, you're out of touch and leaning towards fascism. Guess we were all right in 2016, conservatives have literally gone Nazi. And no, no amount of "I don't like police brutality either" will get you out of your "he was a thug and deserved to die for not listening better to police" posts. Or your Civil War 2.0 fetish.
Get fucked you racist dickbag Nazi cunt. Or even better get educated and rehabilitated from your hate filled ways. Azuma could guide you really well actually, but that would require you putting aside your ego and realizing you have a metric shit ton of brainwashed beliefs.
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TMB fix your shitty code dude. Having a filter trigger on user names is pretty fucking dumb.
Oh cry harder you whiny little pissbaby. You're annoyed someone caught you making a stupid amateur fuckup and you can't even brazen your way out of it. Maybe if you posted anything worth reading more than once every few months, entirely by accident, you wouldn't need all the astroturf.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:28PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:28PM (#1042852)
From what I can gather Kyle murdered someone over property damage. Then the crowd tried to apprehend him.
If the roles were reversed and a BLM protester shot a White Supremacist for beating someone then you would 100% be saying the BLM protester should have been apprehended and you would gladly excuse the White Supremacist for killing the BLM person in retaliation.
You're so cognitively fucked in the head. Kyle murdered someone over property damage, people try to apprehend him and you can notice the lack of the guy with the handgun shooting Kyle, then Kyle shoots some more of them. Then the police let him go home even after he confesses!
If you can't see the problem then your brain is broken, you are a crazy crazy rightwing nutjob who excuses and even applauds fascism from conservatives while imagining fascism from protesters that tried to apprehend a murderer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:43PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:43PM (#1042863)
From what I can gather Kyle murdered someone over property damage.
Totally false. You have made no attempt to gather anything, at all. Apparently, you've sat silent on the sidelines, waiting for your handlers to feed you a line to regurgitate. The mental and physical midget was videotaped trying to start a fight, screaming "shoot me, nigga!" He continued to instigate the confrontation, and ultimately chased the real victim into a car lot. The pedo picked the wrong youth to fuck with this time. Instead of fudge packing a load up the teen's ass, he took a load of his own, in the brain pan.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @10:47PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @10:47PM (#1042972)
Thank god you were here! Following this trash if a thread it was hard to figure what's what. You really saved the day AC with your well researched objective assessment.
So let me get this straight...you are advocating for people to threaten the police with firearms now? Can I screenshot this and keep it for posterity? Because, y'know, the people you've decided to "make common cause with" don't take too kindly to having weapons pointed at them...as you may find out sooner than later if you actually get your political druthers!
-- I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
Screenshot away. I long ago decided that gun laws are racist. I've often called for police restraint, when dealing with people. I've often pointed out that arrogant cops fai to deescalate explosive situations. Starting with the Rice kid in Cleveland, I've agreed that the cops are just murderers, often enough. I've often called for the police to stop defending their bad cops. I want cops to be held accountable, and I want to see an end to (un)limited immunity. Stop and Frisk is unconstitutional, and I've called for the blacks in New York to mount an insurrection against the NYPD for that reason. I have a long, consistent record of demanding accountability of the cops. So, your point here, is what, exactly? You're surprised that I'm not on the cop's side in this particular killing?
Give people their second amendment rights, and the systemic racism will end. The second amendment was put into place specifically to prevent government from infringing on all the rest of your rights. The second has nothing to do with hunting, sport shooting, or any thing else of the nature. The second was put into place to ensure that the PEOPLE have more power than GOVERNMENT.
Power to the people. You get a point or two if you can tell us the history of that little slogan. Power to the people.
I could care less that a cop doesn't like having guns pointed at him. Especially when that cop's first reaction to every situation is to pull his own weapon, and brandish it at retired marines, house wives and mothers, actual peaceful protestors, black drivers, nutcases in distress, and whatever else. Such cops need to be shot. Screenshot.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
Again, they were not "unmarked". They drove an unmarked car. Big deal. I suppose it was probably a rental car, or pulled from a government motor pool. Show me the law that says government agents are prohibited from occupying an unmarked vehicle while in uniform, or some similar bullshit.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
Way to miss the fucking point, as usual. You are holding two positions in direct contradiction with one another, *and* you're repeatedly espousing the sort of ideas that said unmarked DHS troopers would happily come for YOU because of.
By all means, please, keep doing this. You're already on a bunch of lists. Keep running your stupid mouth and see what it gets you.
-- I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
Lists are good . . . they know my position, they don't have to ask.
What's hard to understand about my position? The cops need to be cleaned up, cleaned out, and reeducated. They need to be reminded who they work for - we the people. If that puts me on a list, fuck the list makers.
At the same time, cops have a tough job. Rioters aren't doing ANYONE any good. Gun 'em down where they stand, when they pose a threat. All this non-lethal shit? Toss it. When you pick up a weapon, and advance on a police line, youre life is forfeit. End of story there.
Police need an overhaul, but most cops are deserving of respect. I see no conflict there.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @04:30AM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Friday August 28 2020, @04:30AM (#1043129)
You realize the vast majority of rioters are not carrying firearms right?
Of course not, you just want to mow down people you don't like that are causing property damage. I guess your house is worth more than your life?
"When you pick up a weapon, and advance on a police line, youre life is forfeit. End of story there."
That is the very beginning of fascism, trying to normalize police murdering civilians. No talk of de-escalation, not compromise, no discussion, just murder. Does a rock count as a "weapon" to you? By your logic the police should be executed for using lethal "non-lethal" rounds on protesters, for using tear gas on a crowd that probably contains a few asthmatics, and for violating constitutional rights of non-violent protesters.
I don't think you thought any of this through, you're a reactionary tool of conservative propaganda.
WTF does this hypothetical "vast majority" have to do with anything? That sounds very much like "mostly peaceful". Empty bullshit phrases meant to mislead people who might understand reality. Fact is, the rioters did their best to burn a city to the ground.
Did you notice the rioters aren't rioting tonight? Upwards of a thousand armed guards on duty has taken the wind out of their sails.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @12:18AM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday August 29 2020, @12:18AM (#1043561)
So kinda like your "most conservatives aren't racist"? ;)
Also, rioters did their best to burn a city to the ground? Ummm, that shit would be easy to do with a few people if they really wanted to. What you don't realize is we're LUCKY black people and their allies aren't lashing out more than they are. Here is a time stamped link to a Last Week Tonight show where he shows a video of a black woman explaining what is fucked up in the US very clearly and passionately. If you have any integrity and truly believe the latest journal entry you posted then you should watch this https://youtu.be/Wf4cea5oObY?t=1870 [youtu.be]
These riots were long overdue because decades of peaceful protests have done nothing to implement change. Only with the massive protests and riots did NY implement some serious legislative changes over police misconduct, and on queue many of the police officers are on strike because they don't want any oversight. The sad truth is simply protesting does very little. Even Ghandi had to get Indians to strike before the British paid any attention.
I would much prefer some other methods of effecting change rather than destruction of property, but without the support of conservatives and the conservative/liberals that call themselves Democrats it is basically impossible; and as I've pointed out before you shit on Kapernick who was the most effective peaceful protester so far.
John Oliver isn't as bright as he would like to think. Jim Crow wasn't the start of racism, not by a long shot. Catching runaway slaves wasn't the start of official policy. It started long before that, when blacks, whether slave or freeman, was denied the right to bear arms. That is an essential element of equality and freedom. If you cannot defend yourself, you're not free. Oliver needs to go back to the beginnings, if he hopes to understand racism. But, Oliver is probably a hoplophobe, and he certainly doesn't want to see black people with pistols, rifles, and shotguns on the streets.
At least he is half honest. He makes it clear that Democrats have been very much involved in that. I'm sick of Ds claiming that racism grows from the R party, I'm sick of this "Ds and Rs swapped roles in the sixties!" It's BULLSHIT!
But, Teflon Bill is shown with his speech "an initiative to put 100,000 more police officers on the street". The same Bill, whose wife was thrilled to have them black boys doing her bidding at the governor's mansion.
So, when do the two parties wake up, and begin dispensing justice? I can't see it happening.
Revoke qualified immunity, and we may see a start in that direction. Maybe.
I know damned well though, that rioting isn't going to fix anything.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @11:53PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday August 29 2020, @11:53PM (#1043978)
So you didn't even bother watching the video and go for character attacks against a comedy show that actually does their research. John Oliver wasn't the point of that video, it was the clip of the woman explaining why the riots are happening.
You are such a partisan hack, falling back on "durrrr Cleen-tooons" with the typical rightwing obsession with hatred and ignorance. Top marks for bigot Runaway1956 who keeps trying to use "arming black people" to distract from his bigotry and support of fascism.
The evidence that I watched the video is in my post above. Apparently, you have reading comprehension problems. What that one woman says, specifically? I can understand it. Does that mean we should all give in to despair? I'll pass. I want the system fixed, I don't want to burn the country down.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
Also - funny that not one person in any of these most recent discussions has asked my opinion of the Jacob shooting in Kenosha.
Bad shoot. Two cops proved to be physically incapable of restraining Jacob, so one cop pulls his weapon and empties it into Jacob's back. We should conclude that Jacob did not collapse, until the seventh shot was fired? Bullshit. I suspect that Jacob had visually stopped trying to reach for any purported knife after the first, second, or third shot. I can't prove it, nor can anyone else. No police bodycam, remember? Bad shoot, and the cop needs to answer for it.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:54PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:54PM (#1042912)
And you're just a dumb hillbilly. I just assumed that being against systemic racism and police brutality you would sulport someone doing a very peaceful protest against those things.
Turns out you're full of shit and just manipulating the situation to push a pro-gun narrative. You truly are the worst piece if shit around here now that Ethanol Fueled got deported.
"He was advised to take a knee by NFL player and retired US Army Green Beret Nate Boyer, who considered it a form of protest most respectful to other service members."
Runaway is a piece of shit, a piece of shit, a piece of shit. He's so full of it No longer can sit Without covering everything In poooooop
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:40PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:40PM (#1042934)
It takes an awful lot of shots, or significant time, to stop somebody by blood loss. Many people are not stopped by pain. So it's a slow death situation unless the bullets all hit the aorta.
Hitting the spine works much better. That is really hard to do on purpose. Done by luck, it's still hard to tell immediately if a person is falling or merely crouching, and the muscles don't necessarily relax immediately. Muscles often do the opposite, with a spasm that could lift a person.
Somebody with just 5 seconds of remaining body control could shoot the cop.
Yeah, I understand every bit of that. But cops are indoctrinated in training to treat every situation as if the "bad guy" is a fucking trained assassin. That 21 foot rule, for example. "A trained killer can attack with a knife from 21 feet away faster than you can react if your weapon is already drawn, and aimed" or some similar horse shit. Basically, cops are trained at the academy that they should kill anyone within 21 feet of them. Systemic bullshit, if not racism. It goes on and on, with policy, doctrine, procedure, protocol, etc ad nauseum.
Can we start with that discredited 21 foot rule, and start disassembling the more onerous policies?
Right here in small town America, there is an unofficial policy, "If you see a white and a black person in a vehicle together, they are dealing drugs! Stop and interrogate them!" In and of itself, that stupidity can discourage friendships. "Every time I'm seen with Dennis, the cops fuck with us!"
I will stick with the shoot being a bad shoot. Policy be damned, I say the suspect exhibited SOME KIND of reaction to the first, the second, the third, the fourth, the fifth, and the sixth shots. What was that reaction? No body camera? How convenient - the cop can proceed to empty his magazine into the inert body at his feet, then claim anything he likes.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @05:43PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Friday August 28 2020, @05:43PM (#1043427)
I think the original 21-foot rule applied to a guy with a knife vs a cop with an old 38 in a holster. It was 21-foot sprint vs pull a gun, flip the safety, aim and fire. The cop will probably get a slug into the knife guy, but the knife guy is still falling forward and has reasonably good chance to stick the knife in the cop too. If the cop misses, he's toast.
Six cops in a line with glocks already aimed unloading into someone at 21 feet is just a firing squad.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @09:09PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday August 28 2020, @09:09PM (#1043513)
Oh right, the old "treat every civilian like they are Seal Team 6 hell bent on killing cops" defense.
Starting to think we need to remove lethal weapons from the police and give them really good armor. They are paid to put their lives on the line to keep the peace, we shouldn't have ANY instances of innocent people murdered by police.
Obligatory: fuck you traitorous piece of shit, you should be in prison for life.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @04:24AM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday August 29 2020, @04:24AM (#1043644)
You don't need that. If you are either psycho or drugged up enough to charge at a cop with a knife you are armed and dangerous and probably lacking the inhibitions that make normal people slow to stab other people. Pretty good chance you can ignore anything other than a headshot for long enough to knife the cop. Small consolation to the cop's family if you bleed out afterwards.
So, you're willing to presume that any belligerent you meet is EITHER special forces trained, OR hopped on wild drugs. Therefore, you're not going to bother reasoning with any suspect, just shoot him down.
That is exactly the attitude that I'm arguing against. We don't need cops who view our city streets as war zones.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @06:56AM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday August 29 2020, @06:56AM (#1043683)
Did you miss the words "charge at" ? If you are 21 feet away with a knife you are a possible threat and the cop should stay alert and probably draw his weapon. He should also be trying to talk the knife-holder into putting it down. If you charge at him holding a knife he has the choice of pull the trigger or get stabbed. What do you think he should choose?
Yeah, I guess I read right around those words. If Knife-guy is actually charging at me, I'll pull the trigger. I would expect anyone else to do the same.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @11:57PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday August 29 2020, @11:57PM (#1043981)
Ah, so a trojan horse example. Figures. Runaway just wants to shoot people and let the police shoot anyone that makes them scared. Basically runaway wants to ride the "reform the police" wave in order to push the "police gotta murder sometimes" narrative.
You're full of shit. I DO NOT excuse cops "murdering" anyone. I will always support a legitimate use of force in self defense. Bring on the body cameras, and revoke that limited immunity nonsense. Also, arm the black heads of households in black communities. Police use of excessive force will end very quickly.
Something that has not been mentioned, is to decertify all those police unions that spend so much time protecting the bad cops. Bust them, get rid of them - they serve no useful purpose.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @08:16PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday August 30 2020, @08:16PM (#1044314)
Your track record speaks for itself. You have yet to apologize in any instance where lethal force was NOT justified so you're apparently just totally full of shit. Donate your brain to science, we need to figure out the root cause of this mass insanity plaguing conservatives.
We already know: giant overactive amygdala. This is one of those things that's probably more epigenetic or environmental than strictly genetic, so tinkering around with his atrophied old thinkmeats won't tell you much.
-- I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @06:43PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday August 29 2020, @06:43PM (#1043868)
First, you need laws - that are actually enforced - to prosecute police for murder when they shoot an armed person, black or otherwise, that is not committing any crime.
Second, you need laws - that again, are actually enforced - that automatically trigger the firing and prosecution for assault or murder any cop that harms anyone with their video and audio body camera off.
If you agree to those two things, then I abso-fucking-lutely agree that American blacks should be walking about armed. But that's the prerequisite, and without it you're just going to have a lot of KKK cops getting away with gunning down every armed black person they see.
I readily agree to both of those two things. I've complained before that there aren't enough body cameras, and I've complained when cops turn those cameras off. Cops are OBLIGATED to account for themselves. Except - conditional immunity shit. That immunity makes sense up to a point, but that point has been trampled into the dust.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
As an authoritarian I believe that a cop failing to provide proof of his correct behavior under the circumstances should gl to jail and that the guy who defended himself from three criminals should get a pat in the back. So stop appropriating my opinion, you Nazi.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:24PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:24PM (#1042709)
- Armed guy offers medical care to multiple protestors throughout the night - Armed guy talking friendly with protestors throughout the night - Armed guy gets into argument with Antifa guy over not burning down minority businesses and instead focusing on the courthouse to protect the goals of BLM - Antifa threatens armed guy for not allowing him to attack minority businesses - Armed guy retreats - Antifa guy knocks armed guy to ground and attacks him - Armed guy points weapon at first guy - First antifa attacker puts arms in air - Armed guy stops pointing gun at first antifa attacker - First antifa attacker attacks him again - Armed guy takes out antifa attacker - Happens three more times - Armed guy did not shoot anyone not directly attacking him
WOW it's almost like there are consequences for your actions. Antifa are terrorists and the armed guy acted in self defence. Sorry you can't just try to kill someone with a baseball bat, curb stop them, or attack someone with a skateboard without being held to account. This happened an hour after Antifa thugs beat a 70+ year old man with a baseball bat who was trying to protect his store with a fire extinguisher. Antifa was in a blood frenzy.
It is all on video, 100% of it, all over youtube. Your DNC propaganda is no use here.
That's the same defense you used for the Charlottesville Nazi. He's sitting in prison right now after being convicted of murder by a jury of his peers.
True. However, two Antifa terrorists are cooling off on guerneys at the morgue right now. A third Antifa terrorist will have serious trouble pulling the triggers of guns he is denied by law to possess. There will be more.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
Not one of the three in Kenosha was shot for "stealing stuff". They were shot in self defense when they attacked a white person trying to protect property. Just stop lying.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
That is exactly what the police think. The district attorney, on the other hand, ordered the kid's arrest. The kid surrendered to police peacefully. In fact, the kid attempted to surrender only a minute or so after firing the last shot of the evening. The cops weren't interested in arresting him. Only the politically motivated DA wanted the kid arrested.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
Many people are charged by district attorneys. Some walk away scot free. Some undergo lengthy trials, to be found guilty. Many do the plea bargain thing, and escape any serious punishment. Some make bad plea bargains, and are punished severely. So, Kyle has been charged, by an over zealous district attorney. That is a nearly meaningless data point.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:39PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:39PM (#1042833)
If I decide to make an arrest while I am out rioting, I like to single out young victims, then chase them into a secluded car lot where I can rape them. RIOT BOOTY!!
That's not what the police who arrested him for murder think.
You have spent incalculable time here, denigrating the police, and the police' judgement, as well as the police motives. And, suddenly, you're going to use the opinions of the police as justification to railroad some kid who acted in self defense?
Hypocrite, defend your hypocrisy! Either the cops are out-of-control racists, or they are respectable people whose opinions should matter. Choose one, you can't have both.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
A jury of his peers will determine if he committed murder.
You and Runaway are stating as a fact that it was self defense. My point is that self defense has absolutely NOT been established as a fact yet.
And given Runaway's history of claiming murder is self defense (and then getting proven wrong in a court of law) we should take any of his claims with a several grains of salt.
Watch the videos. Self defense is an obvious fact. You might argue that self defense has not yet been established legally, in court, but the self defense aspect is obvious. Watch the videos, with your eyes open. Allow the evidence to form your opinion, don't let your opinion dictate what you can see.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
That sorta sounds almost reasonable. Except, the shooter was evacuating toward police lines, to surrender to police. You can't warp reality so easily. Antifa was there for the purpose of violence toward the city of Kenosha. The Guard was there to protect Kenosha. The Kenosha Guard was pretty successful in it's mission.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:08PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:08PM (#1042883)
Except, the shooter was evacuating toward police lines
Yeah, running back to the cops for protection, after this cowardly radicalized white terror baby killed someone in cold blood. Why are Trump supporters such scaredy-assed cowards? They see people marching for justice, and they start quaking in their diarrhea-filled boots. And then they start playing with their guns. Cowards! And our local coward, Runaway1956, cowardly defends their cowardly actions. No wonder he was in the Navy (allegedly) instead of a real fighting force that does not shell women and chilren, and puppies.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:42PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:42PM (#1042834)
The first video clearly shows the child molester (the first recipient of a Darwin Award lead vitamin pill) chasing Kyle into a car lot, trying to corner him. The child molester just wanted a little of the sweet white baby booty.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:42AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:42AM (#1044132)
Those videos you link are from AFTER he had already killed someone.
No. The first relevant video is of Rittenhouse being chased by Anthony Huber. They are obscured by a car, then shots are fired. Huber is fatally wounded. Rittenhouse calls 911. While he is making the call other people turn up and chase him. He is dragged to the ground, kicked, and hit with a skateboard before he opens fire a second time, killing the skateboard wielder and wounding the guy attempting to shoot him with a pistol.
Lemme put it another way. It's analogous to putting a laugh track on a comedy show. People have to be told what they are seeing.The jury determines truth, whether it's factual or not.
-- La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
OK but are we gonna discuss the evidence? Self defense, case closed. Whatever a jury of potentially brainwashed socialists or conservatives decide is sadly a problem for the guy but not for the truth.
You don't know that. If he went in looking for trouble, it's not self defense, regardless what the video may show. Only the people that were there can know who drew first blood. The is no credibility. Nobody knows who paid whom. It wasn't a legitimate "protest" by any stretch of the word.
-- La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:46AM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:46AM (#1044134)
He was running away. The law is clear that you cannot attack people in self-defense if they are running away. Saying he put himself in "trouble" is irrelevant as soon as he started running away.
If you really think he's a domestic terrorist, report him to the FBI. Probably nothing will happen since hey, old white alt-right dude, that's a good chunk of the alphabet-soup gang too, but you may as well if you're concerned enough.
-- I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
Nope. 17 year old domestic terrorist murders someone he probably thought was looting (death penalty for looting? Ok, then death penalty for racism. Tit for tat you bigoted shitheel), domestic terrorist flees the scene and is chased by a crowd. They try and disarm and detain him, he shoots more people.
No looting. Every shot was fired in SELF DEFENSE. Get your story together. And, for a racist to shoot mostly people of his own race? Again, get your story together. Stupid sound bytes aren't cutting it.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:09PM
(15 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:09PM (#1042808)
Hey moron, read the linked article from the Associated Press. As non-partisan a report as you're going to find.
Kyle Ritterrorhouse shot one person, then the crowd went to apprehend him and he shot more people. I guess we can just wait it out, but as someone else pointed out you continue to defend white murderers and they keep getting locked up for murder.
Let us suppose that "the crowd" had authority to apprehend him. In fact, I can make that case, myself. It's called "citizen's arrest". Except - not one person in any of the videos can be quoted calling for a citizen's arrest. But, that is all rather beside the point. Kyle was running TOWARD the police. As he approached the police, he raised his hands, and attempted to surrender to police, who clearly have the authority to arrest.
We could run in circles with that all day long. And, when all is said and done, Kyle was still defending himself from a violent mob.
Facts are facts, and the mob didn't have time or opportunity to edit the video to prevent the facts coming out.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
At least one guy would be alive if he had stood back, and permitted the police to handle things. See how that works? And, another murderous bastard would still have the use of his arm. But, despite the calls of SOME PEOPLE for police intervention, what we witnessed was a mob trying to kill Kyle before the police could get there. All the while, Kyle was running TO police, and members of the mob apparently wanted to prevent him getting to the police.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
I don't want to be there. And I question why anyone would want to be there. If they want to protest, go to the city council meetings. And maybe people can commit the unholy act of voting for a more responsive city council and mayor, or go against god himself and put initiatives on the ballot.
The riots are obviously counterproductive in every way, find out who is financing it. I'll bet Trump's (the brand) name is all over it.
-- La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
Then you haven't been paying attention very well. George Soros name is all over Antifa. Trump isn't about to pay people to run wild through the streets. Trump generally doesn't pay anyone until the courts tell him that he must pay them.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @06:58PM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday August 29 2020, @06:58PM (#1043885)
Let us suppose that "the crowd" had authority to apprehend him
Wait, next thing you know, you'll say that maybe a random kid with a gun doesn't have the authority to patrol other people's property to protect it from theft. What is the world coming to?
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, motherfucker. Their right to a citizen's arrest is at least as valid as his right to act as a member of a militia.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @07:17PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday August 29 2020, @07:17PM (#1043902)
The only relevant right exercised was Rittenhouse's right to self-defense. You don't get to grab someone's gun just because you think they committed a crime, and you would be a fool to try it. Rittenhouse was retreating, not gunning random people down. You are going to be sorely disappointed by the outcome of the court case, but maybe you'll be more careful when playing lawyer in the future.
Oddly enough, the three people Rittenhouse defended himself against had violent criminal histories. What are the chances of that? It's like the opportunity to burn and loot attracts a certain kind of scumbag. If the police can't do their jobs and repel those scumbags, so-called "militia members" will have to step up.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:52AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:52AM (#1044139)
Their right to a citizen's arrest is at least as valid as his right to act as a member of a militia.
Certainly it is, but citizens arrest does not include flying kicks or blows to the head from a skateboard. At the point of inflicting possibly mortal injury you have transitioned from citizens arrest to lynch mob.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @11:55PM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @11:55PM (#1043021)
I did. Kid murders unarmed man, kid gets chased by angry crowd trying to apprehend him, kid murders one more and shoots another. At no point was the guy with a handgun even pointing it at the kid, if he wanted to kill the shitbird he would have shot him in the back like cops do.
Perhaps you should reboot. Better yet pull your power cord, you're obviously malfunctioning and a danger to society.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @09:14PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday August 28 2020, @09:14PM (#1043514)
Like the one showing him shoot an unarmed man? Proportional defense.
But hey, maybe this is a good thing? All the dickheads that like to pick fights and commit hate crimes can be put down as soon as they make a threatening move. It'll be a weird and pretty immoral way to rid the US of racist neo-nazi types, but whatever works? Also, if a police officer comes towards a citizen with their hand on their gun then the citizen is justified in putting down the cowardly cop. That one was Runaway1956's idea, arm the populace so the police are afraid of being murdered at every turn.
It'll be a bloody bloody solution, but since liberals are a much larger % of the population statistically the racists will get taken out much quicker. No amount of guns can make up for 20 people who will immediately whip out their guns and put you down as soon as you step out of line.
Meanwhile David Frum who wrote the speeches sending teens to Iraq suddenly has a problem when a teen has a gun? Iraq didn't attack the US on 9/11, BLM and Antifa are striking at the heart of liberal society - property rights secured by the rule of law. This is exactly what 2A was intended for!
Racism and looting are two different things. The first pertains to your freedom to hate whoever you want, a freedom that leftists exercise explicitly btw. Looting interferes with other's property. This goes to show the already historically proven utter inability of socialists to discern the right from the wrong.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:09PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:09PM (#1042923)
You didn't get the memo: the rules are different for liberals.
Let's look at it. It is certainly NOT okay for cops to shoot people, especially innocent people. We all agree on that. Well, all sane people agree.
But it IS okay for liberals to destroy innocent people's belongings including cars, businesses, stores, inventory, loot, anything and everything, endangering people's lives in the process.
See, you have to first drink the liberal kool-aide and then you'll be woke.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:23PM (78 children)
But about 35% of the users here are authoritarians who are totally fine with "comply or die" and will sweep any inconvenient murders under the rug. The GOP keeps hammering their fear buttons with literally insane rhetoric. It is just amazing how conservatives keep murdering people yet think liberals are the problem.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:28PM (7 children)
And the other 65%? Comply and die? Or maybe and/or, xor, nand? So many choices.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:40PM
Law and order for thee. All the crime we can eat for me.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:47PM (5 children)
Notice how Rittenhouse doesn't need to comply with anything?
As a 17 year old he was illegally carrying that gun of his (open carry is legal at 18 in that state).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:05PM (3 children)
What is the appropriate punishment for a minor carrying a weapon? A $100 fine should do the trick.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:15PM (2 children)
If you're black you get shot in the back seven times.
If you're white you get thanked by the police and a free bottle of water.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:26PM
Apples and oranges. Don't scuffle with cops and run around while you're under arrest.
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @12:31PM
Race is determined by skull shape not skin color. There are 3 recognized human races: Asian, African, and Caucasian. At least that's what we've been told, I think there is another one with elongated skulls.
According to you albino's can't be African.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @11:45PM
> As a 17 year old he was illegally carrying that gun of his (open carry is legal at 18 in that state).
Aren't they charging him as an adult? There's a hunting exemption for rifles and it'll be going to the SC as a 2A case if the prosecutor wants to try it on.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:37PM (67 children)
Black folks are to comply or die.
White folks can charge directly at police, while carrying guns, and physically shove them out of the way and nothing bad happens. [npr.org]
(Score: 1, Disagree) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:48PM (65 children)
You are actually making my case here. Black folk should be armed, and the cops will stop no-knocking their homes. Black folk should be armed, and the cops will be afraid to stop-and-frisk them. Give the dark skinned people their second amendment rights, and they can defend themselves.
Thank you for seeing reality.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:51PM (64 children)
Sure, great idea. It's not like the cops have a history of killing every black guy they see with a gun!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:56PM (63 children)
Arm them all. The right to bear arms is exactly what separates a slave from a free man.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @04:00PM (59 children)
Dead men can't be either.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @04:10PM (58 children)
GIVE THE BLACK COMMUNITIES THE POWER TO RESIST THE POLICE WHO MURDER THEM!
To quote Chairman Mao, political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. To deny black people the right to arm themselves is to deny them political power.
I want to see black people wielding the power to determine their own destinies. Racists, such as yourself, deny the black man any power. You want the darkies to stay on the Democrat plantation.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @04:26PM (25 children)
Not possible when they are murdered by police who suffer no repercussions for murder.
Castille I believe was the guy who had a gun in his car, told the officer in order to NOT get shot accidentally, and was murdered instantly.
Your narrative needs help. You need help. Probably brain surgery or serious meds.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @04:33PM (24 children)
It's no good when only one black guy in every thousand has gun. You arm them ALL. The stupidest cop on earth can understand that gunning down a helpless person in front of dozens or hundreds or thousands of armed witnesses is bad for his health.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:06PM (23 children)
So Runaway is all about socialism when it comes to gun ownership. Interesting.
Or, perhaps we can just hold murderers accountable? I know, strange notion.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:25PM (22 children)
You are incapable of distinguishing between murder and self defense. No point in discussing anything with you. Please use your Anonymous Coward membership number to identify yourself when posting, so I know to ignore you.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:53PM (18 children)
Runaway is incapable, well, just incapable. But here he is incapable of distinguishing between murder, and systemic racism in policing in America. Maybe he will pull his weapon next time he gets pulled over for white privilege, and be the next Lavoy Finicum.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:01PM (17 children)
And that is a lie. If you have never heard me argue against systemic racism before, you have seen it in this discussion. Gun laws are race laws. Cops can only victimize a helpless population. A disarmed population is a helpless population. Arm the victims, and they will no longer be victims. You want reparations? Let us buy an AR-15 for every black head of household in the United States. No more no-knock warrants. No more stop-and-frisk. The systemic racism ends when cops fear their victims. And, let us establish residency requirements for all cops. If you don't live in Kenosha, you can't police Kenosha. If you don't live in Harlem, you can't police Harlem. If you don't live in East LA, you can't police East LA.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:48PM (15 children)
This may be one of those "stopped clock right once every 12 hours" things, but I'm in perfect agreement with you here :)
You have just described "community policing," which has been a plank of the "left" in the US (centrist on the global scale but what the hell...) for a long, long time. And your idea about arming everyone up is another way to level the playing field in the vein of what the "defund the police" crowd is after: closing the power differential.
When did you turn into such a pinko? :D
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:12PM (14 children)
Maybe you should pay more attention to what Runaway actually says, as opposed to the totally unrelated bullshit that people accuse him of.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:37PM (2 children)
Maybe you should stick to your principles instead of believing every rightwing outlet that drifts across your eyeballs. You keep saying you're against police brutality and such, but every time we have a story about innocent people being killed you always side with police and whute nationalists.
Aside from that, having every adult carry a firearm is impractical and given the current state it would be self defense for every black person to gun down an officer who so much ad raises their voice or touches their weapon.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:43PM (1 child)
More lies.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:09PM
Do you even have a brain? Or are you just a managed bot?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday August 27 2020, @10:07PM (2 children)
What's with the Bob Dole gag?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday August 28 2020, @12:37AM (1 child)
Obviously he forgot to log out and meant to post that as AC, pretending to have more support than he does.
I tell you, the IP hashes of some of these threads are hilarious, though the masturbatory astroturfing is getting really, really old...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @12:56AM
Maybe he just imagines himself to be royalty. As in, 'We are not amused."
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday August 28 2020, @12:36AM (7 children)
Maybe you should log out before using the third person about yourself? Pathetic. I don't need to boost my posts with astroturf, so why do you?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @12:53AM (1 child)
When did you get the ability to see IP hadhes?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday August 28 2020, @01:57AM
Mwahahahaha :)
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 28 2020, @01:14AM (4 children)
Do we offend you? LOL
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday August 28 2020, @01:57AM (3 children)
LOL, no. I've lost even more respect for you is what I mean. How weak is your message that you can't even let it stand alone on its own merits?
And what's with this second grade "u mad bro" bullshit, anyway? This is what you're reduced to when someone catches you fucking up, it seems. In fact, looks like this one was supposed to be AC too and you forgot to log out AGAIN! Go take your anti-Alzheimer's meds and lie down, grandpa.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 28 2020, @03:44AM (2 children)
You're just going from dumb to dumber. I have no need to post AC here, or anywhere in this discussion. Thank for playing, we appreciate it!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @04:25AM
Saddest day ever. You probably think Ariii and Azumaaa are sock puppeting which is why you feel justified. I think Ari posts AC sometimes, but I've been confused as him enough that I wouldn't make a real bet on it.
Sorry Rrruuunaway, you're out of touch and leaning towards fascism. Guess we were all right in 2016, conservatives have literally gone Nazi. And no, no amount of "I don't like police brutality either" will get you out of your "he was a thug and deserved to die for not listening better to police" posts. Or your Civil War 2.0 fetish.
Get fucked you racist dickbag Nazi cunt. Or even better get educated and rehabilitated from your hate filled ways. Azuma could guide you really well actually, but that would require you putting aside your ego and realizing you have a metric shit ton of brainwashed beliefs.
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TMB fix your shitty code dude. Having a filter trigger on user names is pretty fucking dumb.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday August 28 2020, @09:37PM
Oh cry harder you whiny little pissbaby. You're annoyed someone caught you making a stupid amateur fuckup and you can't even brazen your way out of it. Maybe if you posted anything worth reading more than once every few months, entirely by accident, you wouldn't need all the astroturf.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:53PM
Your insanity precedes you! Resistance means extermination. Without white support, they just don't have the numbers
And resistance needs big finance, you simpleton! Can you spare a couple hundred?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:28PM (2 children)
From what I can gather Kyle murdered someone over property damage. Then the crowd tried to apprehend him.
If the roles were reversed and a BLM protester shot a White Supremacist for beating someone then you would 100% be saying the BLM protester should have been apprehended and you would gladly excuse the White Supremacist for killing the BLM person in retaliation.
You're so cognitively fucked in the head. Kyle murdered someone over property damage, people try to apprehend him and you can notice the lack of the guy with the handgun shooting Kyle, then Kyle shoots some more of them. Then the police let him go home even after he confesses!
If you can't see the problem then your brain is broken, you are a crazy crazy rightwing nutjob who excuses and even applauds fascism from conservatives while imagining fascism from protesters that tried to apprehend a murderer.
Get help.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:43PM (1 child)
Totally false. You have made no attempt to gather anything, at all. Apparently, you've sat silent on the sidelines, waiting for your handlers to feed you a line to regurgitate. The mental and physical midget was videotaped trying to start a fight, screaming "shoot me, nigga!" He continued to instigate the confrontation, and ultimately chased the real victim into a car lot. The pedo picked the wrong youth to fuck with this time. Instead of fudge packing a load up the teen's ass, he took a load of his own, in the brain pan.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @10:47PM
Thank god you were here! Following this trash if a thread it was hard to figure what's what. You really saved the day AC with your well researched objective assessment.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:44PM (31 children)
So let me get this straight...you are advocating for people to threaten the police with firearms now? Can I screenshot this and keep it for posterity? Because, y'know, the people you've decided to "make common cause with" don't take too kindly to having weapons pointed at them...as you may find out sooner than later if you actually get your political druthers!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:58PM (12 children)
Screenshot away. I long ago decided that gun laws are racist. I've often called for police restraint, when dealing with people. I've often pointed out that arrogant cops fai to deescalate explosive situations. Starting with the Rice kid in Cleveland, I've agreed that the cops are just murderers, often enough. I've often called for the police to stop defending their bad cops. I want cops to be held accountable, and I want to see an end to (un)limited immunity. Stop and Frisk is unconstitutional, and I've called for the blacks in New York to mount an insurrection against the NYPD for that reason. I have a long, consistent record of demanding accountability of the cops. So, your point here, is what, exactly? You're surprised that I'm not on the cop's side in this particular killing?
Give people their second amendment rights, and the systemic racism will end. The second amendment was put into place specifically to prevent government from infringing on all the rest of your rights. The second has nothing to do with hunting, sport shooting, or any thing else of the nature. The second was put into place to ensure that the PEOPLE have more power than GOVERNMENT.
Power to the people. You get a point or two if you can tell us the history of that little slogan. Power to the people.
I could care less that a cop doesn't like having guns pointed at him. Especially when that cop's first reaction to every situation is to pull his own weapon, and brandish it at retired marines, house wives and mothers, actual peaceful protestors, black drivers, nutcases in distress, and whatever else. Such cops need to be shot. Screenshot.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday August 28 2020, @12:33AM (11 children)
But you're "making common cause" with the unmarked DHS troopers. This is a direct contradiction, you know.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 28 2020, @01:01AM (10 children)
Again, they were not "unmarked". They drove an unmarked car. Big deal. I suppose it was probably a rental car, or pulled from a government motor pool. Show me the law that says government agents are prohibited from occupying an unmarked vehicle while in uniform, or some similar bullshit.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday August 28 2020, @02:02AM (9 children)
Way to miss the fucking point, as usual. You are holding two positions in direct contradiction with one another, *and* you're repeatedly espousing the sort of ideas that said unmarked DHS troopers would happily come for YOU because of.
By all means, please, keep doing this. You're already on a bunch of lists. Keep running your stupid mouth and see what it gets you.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 28 2020, @03:40AM (8 children)
Lists are good . . . they know my position, they don't have to ask.
What's hard to understand about my position? The cops need to be cleaned up, cleaned out, and reeducated. They need to be reminded who they work for - we the people. If that puts me on a list, fuck the list makers.
At the same time, cops have a tough job. Rioters aren't doing ANYONE any good. Gun 'em down where they stand, when they pose a threat. All this non-lethal shit? Toss it. When you pick up a weapon, and advance on a police line, youre life is forfeit. End of story there.
Police need an overhaul, but most cops are deserving of respect. I see no conflict there.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @04:30AM (7 children)
You realize the vast majority of rioters are not carrying firearms right?
Of course not, you just want to mow down people you don't like that are causing property damage. I guess your house is worth more than your life?
"When you pick up a weapon, and advance on a police line, youre life is forfeit. End of story there."
That is the very beginning of fascism, trying to normalize police murdering civilians. No talk of de-escalation, not compromise, no discussion, just murder. Does a rock count as a "weapon" to you? By your logic the police should be executed for using lethal "non-lethal" rounds on protesters, for using tear gas on a crowd that probably contains a few asthmatics, and for violating constitutional rights of non-violent protesters.
I don't think you thought any of this through, you're a reactionary tool of conservative propaganda.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 28 2020, @05:58AM (6 children)
WTF does this hypothetical "vast majority" have to do with anything? That sounds very much like "mostly peaceful". Empty bullshit phrases meant to mislead people who might understand reality. Fact is, the rioters did their best to burn a city to the ground.
Did you notice the rioters aren't rioting tonight? Upwards of a thousand armed guards on duty has taken the wind out of their sails.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @12:18AM (5 children)
So kinda like your "most conservatives aren't racist"? ;)
Also, rioters did their best to burn a city to the ground? Ummm, that shit would be easy to do with a few people if they really wanted to. What you don't realize is we're LUCKY black people and their allies aren't lashing out more than they are. Here is a time stamped link to a Last Week Tonight show where he shows a video of a black woman explaining what is fucked up in the US very clearly and passionately. If you have any integrity and truly believe the latest journal entry you posted then you should watch this https://youtu.be/Wf4cea5oObY?t=1870 [youtu.be]
These riots were long overdue because decades of peaceful protests have done nothing to implement change. Only with the massive protests and riots did NY implement some serious legislative changes over police misconduct, and on queue many of the police officers are on strike because they don't want any oversight. The sad truth is simply protesting does very little. Even Ghandi had to get Indians to strike before the British paid any attention.
I would much prefer some other methods of effecting change rather than destruction of property, but without the support of conservatives and the conservative/liberals that call themselves Democrats it is basically impossible; and as I've pointed out before you shit on Kapernick who was the most effective peaceful protester so far.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 29 2020, @01:22AM (4 children)
John Oliver isn't as bright as he would like to think. Jim Crow wasn't the start of racism, not by a long shot. Catching runaway slaves wasn't the start of official policy. It started long before that, when blacks, whether slave or freeman, was denied the right to bear arms. That is an essential element of equality and freedom. If you cannot defend yourself, you're not free. Oliver needs to go back to the beginnings, if he hopes to understand racism. But, Oliver is probably a hoplophobe, and he certainly doesn't want to see black people with pistols, rifles, and shotguns on the streets.
At least he is half honest. He makes it clear that Democrats have been very much involved in that. I'm sick of Ds claiming that racism grows from the R party, I'm sick of this "Ds and Rs swapped roles in the sixties!" It's BULLSHIT!
But, Teflon Bill is shown with his speech "an initiative to put 100,000 more police officers on the street". The same Bill, whose wife was thrilled to have them black boys doing her bidding at the governor's mansion.
So, when do the two parties wake up, and begin dispensing justice? I can't see it happening.
Revoke qualified immunity, and we may see a start in that direction. Maybe.
I know damned well though, that rioting isn't going to fix anything.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @08:03PM
> John Oliver isn't as bright as he would like to think.
What does this have to do with a CT sewage processing facility?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @11:53PM (2 children)
So you didn't even bother watching the video and go for character attacks against a comedy show that actually does their research. John Oliver wasn't the point of that video, it was the clip of the woman explaining why the riots are happening.
You are such a partisan hack, falling back on "durrrr Cleen-tooons" with the typical rightwing obsession with hatred and ignorance. Top marks for bigot Runaway1956 who keeps trying to use "arming black people" to distract from his bigotry and support of fascism.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 30 2020, @12:20AM (1 child)
The evidence that I watched the video is in my post above. Apparently, you have reading comprehension problems. What that one woman says, specifically? I can understand it. Does that mean we should all give in to despair? I'll pass. I want the system fixed, I don't want to burn the country down.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @08:14PM
So once again you didn't watch the video and are conjuring some response from the shallows of your brain pan. Top kek, well played bruh!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:06PM (17 children)
Also - funny that not one person in any of these most recent discussions has asked my opinion of the Jacob shooting in Kenosha.
Bad shoot. Two cops proved to be physically incapable of restraining Jacob, so one cop pulls his weapon and empties it into Jacob's back. We should conclude that Jacob did not collapse, until the seventh shot was fired? Bullshit. I suspect that Jacob had visually stopped trying to reach for any purported knife after the first, second, or third shot. I can't prove it, nor can anyone else. No police bodycam, remember? Bad shoot, and the cop needs to answer for it.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:39PM (3 children)
Then why didn't you support Kapernick?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:42PM (2 children)
Kapernick is just another dumb jock - WTF would I support him?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:54PM
And you're just a dumb hillbilly. I just assumed that being against systemic racism and police brutality you would sulport someone doing a very peaceful protest against those things.
Turns out you're full of shit and just manipulating the situation to push a pro-gun narrative. You truly are the worst piece if shit around here now that Ethanol Fueled got deported.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2020, @10:04PM
https://remember45.com/get-that-son-of-a-bitch-off-the-field/ [remember45.com]
"He was advised to take a knee by NFL player and retired US Army Green Beret Nate Boyer, who considered it a form of protest most respectful to other service members."
Runaway is a piece of shit,
a piece of shit,
a piece of shit.
He's so full of it
No longer can sit
Without covering everything
In poooooop
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:40PM (12 children)
It takes an awful lot of shots, or significant time, to stop somebody by blood loss. Many people are not stopped by pain. So it's a slow death situation unless the bullets all hit the aorta.
Hitting the spine works much better. That is really hard to do on purpose. Done by luck, it's still hard to tell immediately if a person is falling or merely crouching, and the muscles don't necessarily relax immediately. Muscles often do the opposite, with a spasm that could lift a person.
Somebody with just 5 seconds of remaining body control could shoot the cop.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @10:45PM (11 children)
Yeah, I understand every bit of that. But cops are indoctrinated in training to treat every situation as if the "bad guy" is a fucking trained assassin. That 21 foot rule, for example. "A trained killer can attack with a knife from 21 feet away faster than you can react if your weapon is already drawn, and aimed" or some similar horse shit. Basically, cops are trained at the academy that they should kill anyone within 21 feet of them. Systemic bullshit, if not racism. It goes on and on, with policy, doctrine, procedure, protocol, etc ad nauseum.
Can we start with that discredited 21 foot rule, and start disassembling the more onerous policies?
Right here in small town America, there is an unofficial policy, "If you see a white and a black person in a vehicle together, they are dealing drugs! Stop and interrogate them!" In and of itself, that stupidity can discourage friendships. "Every time I'm seen with Dennis, the cops fuck with us!"
I will stick with the shoot being a bad shoot. Policy be damned, I say the suspect exhibited SOME KIND of reaction to the first, the second, the third, the fourth, the fifth, and the sixth shots. What was that reaction? No body camera? How convenient - the cop can proceed to empty his magazine into the inert body at his feet, then claim anything he likes.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @05:43PM (10 children)
I think the original 21-foot rule applied to a guy with a knife vs a cop with an old 38 in a holster.
It was 21-foot sprint vs pull a gun, flip the safety, aim and fire. The cop will probably get a slug into the knife guy, but the knife guy is still falling forward and has reasonably good chance to stick the knife in the cop too. If the cop misses, he's toast.
Six cops in a line with glocks already aimed unloading into someone at 21 feet is just a firing squad.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 28 2020, @06:38PM (9 children)
You forget the presumption that the guy charging the cop is some kind of expert knife fighter with special forces training.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @09:09PM
Oh right, the old "treat every civilian like they are Seal Team 6 hell bent on killing cops" defense.
Starting to think we need to remove lethal weapons from the police and give them really good armor. They are paid to put their lives on the line to keep the peace, we shouldn't have ANY instances of innocent people murdered by police.
Obligatory: fuck you traitorous piece of shit, you should be in prison for life.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @04:24AM (7 children)
You don't need that. If you are either psycho or drugged up enough to charge at a cop with a knife you are armed and dangerous and probably lacking the inhibitions that make normal people slow to stab other people. Pretty good chance you can ignore anything other than a headshot for long enough to knife the cop. Small consolation to the cop's family if you bleed out afterwards.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 29 2020, @04:30AM (6 children)
So, you're willing to presume that any belligerent you meet is EITHER special forces trained, OR hopped on wild drugs. Therefore, you're not going to bother reasoning with any suspect, just shoot him down.
That is exactly the attitude that I'm arguing against. We don't need cops who view our city streets as war zones.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @06:56AM (5 children)
Did you miss the words "charge at" ? If you are 21 feet away with a knife you are a possible threat and the cop should stay alert and probably draw his weapon. He should also be trying to talk the knife-holder into putting it down. If you charge at him holding a knife he has the choice of pull the trigger or get stabbed. What do you think he should choose?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 29 2020, @07:28AM (4 children)
Yeah, I guess I read right around those words. If Knife-guy is actually charging at me, I'll pull the trigger. I would expect anyone else to do the same.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @11:57PM (3 children)
Ah, so a trojan horse example. Figures. Runaway just wants to shoot people and let the police shoot anyone that makes them scared. Basically runaway wants to ride the "reform the police" wave in order to push the "police gotta murder sometimes" narrative.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 30 2020, @12:18AM (2 children)
You're full of shit. I DO NOT excuse cops "murdering" anyone. I will always support a legitimate use of force in self defense. Bring on the body cameras, and revoke that limited immunity nonsense. Also, arm the black heads of households in black communities. Police use of excessive force will end very quickly.
Something that has not been mentioned, is to decertify all those police unions that spend so much time protecting the bad cops. Bust them, get rid of them - they serve no useful purpose.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @08:16PM (1 child)
Your track record speaks for itself. You have yet to apologize in any instance where lethal force was NOT justified so you're apparently just totally full of shit. Donate your brain to science, we need to figure out the root cause of this mass insanity plaguing conservatives.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday September 04 2020, @02:27AM
We already know: giant overactive amygdala. This is one of those things that's probably more epigenetic or environmental than strictly genetic, so tinkering around with his atrophied old thinkmeats won't tell you much.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:32PM
Most people can't be trusted not to run with scissors.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @06:43PM (1 child)
First, you need laws - that are actually enforced - to prosecute police for murder when they shoot an armed person, black or otherwise, that is not committing any crime.
Second, you need laws - that again, are actually enforced - that automatically trigger the firing and prosecution for assault or murder any cop that harms anyone with their video and audio body camera off.
If you agree to those two things, then I abso-fucking-lutely agree that American blacks should be walking about armed. But that's the prerequisite, and without it you're just going to have a lot of KKK cops getting away with gunning down every armed black person they see.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 29 2020, @08:13PM
I readily agree to both of those two things. I've complained before that there aren't enough body cameras, and I've complained when cops turn those cameras off. Cops are OBLIGATED to account for themselves. Except - conditional immunity shit. That immunity makes sense up to a point, but that point has been trampled into the dust.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @12:52AM
"Black folks are to comply or die."
If I understand correctly, there seem to be an alarming number of people who would prefer they comply AND die.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:02PM
Those damned conservatives! They keep rioting, looting, burning, beating people, something oughta be done about them! I want them off my lawn!
(Score: 1, Troll) by Bot on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:54PM
As an authoritarian I believe that a cop failing to provide proof of his correct behavior under the circumstances should gl to jail and that the guy who defended himself from three criminals should get a pat in the back. So stop appropriating my opinion, you Nazi.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:24PM (61 children)
- Armed guy offers medical care to multiple protestors throughout the night
- Armed guy talking friendly with protestors throughout the night
- Armed guy gets into argument with Antifa guy over not burning down minority businesses and instead focusing on the courthouse to protect the goals of BLM
- Antifa threatens armed guy for not allowing him to attack minority businesses
- Armed guy retreats
- Antifa guy knocks armed guy to ground and attacks him
- Armed guy points weapon at first guy
- First antifa attacker puts arms in air
- Armed guy stops pointing gun at first antifa attacker
- First antifa attacker attacks him again
- Armed guy takes out antifa attacker
- Happens three more times
- Armed guy did not shoot anyone not directly attacking him
WOW it's almost like there are consequences for your actions. Antifa are terrorists and the armed guy acted in self defence. Sorry you can't just try to kill someone with a baseball bat, curb stop them, or attack someone with a skateboard without being held to account. This happened an hour after Antifa thugs beat a 70+ year old man with a baseball bat who was trying to protect his store with a fire extinguisher. Antifa was in a blood frenzy.
It is all on video, 100% of it, all over youtube. Your DNC propaganda is no use here.
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:32PM (32 children)
That's the same defense you used for the Charlottesville Nazi. He's sitting in prison right now after being convicted of murder by a jury of his peers.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:52PM (24 children)
True. However, two Antifa terrorists are cooling off on guerneys at the morgue right now. A third Antifa terrorist will have serious trouble pulling the triggers of guns he is denied by law to possess. There will be more.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:56PM (23 children)
Stealing stuff is not terrorism and is not a crime that carries the death penalty.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:58PM
Being a vigilante and gunning down people in the street, on the other hand....
(Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @04:11PM (21 children)
Not one of the three in Kenosha was shot for "stealing stuff". They were shot in self defense when they attacked a white person trying to protect property. Just stop lying.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @04:26PM (20 children)
That's not what the police who arrested him for murder think.
(Score: 3, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @04:35PM (8 children)
That is exactly what the police think. The district attorney, on the other hand, ordered the kid's arrest. The kid surrendered to police peacefully. In fact, the kid attempted to surrender only a minute or so after firing the last shot of the evening. The cops weren't interested in arresting him. Only the politically motivated DA wanted the kid arrested.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @05:55PM (7 children)
Kyle Rittenhouse has been charged with first degree murder for killing 2 people then fleeing the state. [bbc.com]
No amount of furious hand-waving will change that fact.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:25PM
Kenosha is right next to Illinois, so that's a misleading talking point.
He will be found not guilty.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:35PM
Many people are charged by district attorneys. Some walk away scot free. Some undergo lengthy trials, to be found guilty. Many do the plea bargain thing, and escape any serious punishment. Some make bad plea bargains, and are punished severely. So, Kyle has been charged, by an over zealous district attorney. That is a nearly meaningless data point.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:37PM (4 children)
I always make peaceful arrests by whacking the suspect in the back of his head with a skateboard.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:38PM (1 child)
You do? I prefer to sneak up behind the suspect with an automatic pistol, so that I can just blow their brains out at close range.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:39PM
If I decide to make an arrest while I am out rioting, I like to single out young victims, then chase them into a secluded car lot where I can rape them. RIOT BOOTY!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:32PM (1 child)
When the suspect is carrying a rifle, yes, that is a very smart move. Would you have preferred they shot the little cunt?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:02PM
Would've saved Wisconsin having to scrounge around for some lethal drugs to inject him with.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @04:52PM (10 children)
I have to return to your post here.
You have spent incalculable time here, denigrating the police, and the police' judgement, as well as the police motives. And, suddenly, you're going to use the opinions of the police as justification to railroad some kid who acted in self defense?
Hypocrite, defend your hypocrisy! Either the cops are out-of-control racists, or they are respectable people whose opinions should matter. Choose one, you can't have both.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @05:46PM (9 children)
A jury of his peers will determine if he committed murder.
You and Runaway are stating as a fact that it was self defense. My point is that self defense has absolutely NOT been established as a fact yet.
And given Runaway's history of claiming murder is self defense (and then getting proven wrong in a court of law) we should take any of his claims with a several grains of salt.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @05:53PM (8 children)
Watch the videos. Self defense is an obvious fact. You might argue that self defense has not yet been established legally, in court, but the self defense aspect is obvious. Watch the videos, with your eyes open. Allow the evidence to form your opinion, don't let your opinion dictate what you can see.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:01PM (7 children)
Those videos you link are from AFTER he had already killed someone.
People trying to stop an active shooter is self defense.
An active shooter shooting more people as he tries to escape is not self defense.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:20PM
He was not an active shooter, he had his phone in his hand - presumably to call the police. The men who then mobbed him were criminals.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:28PM (2 children)
That sorta sounds almost reasonable. Except, the shooter was evacuating toward police lines, to surrender to police. You can't warp reality so easily. Antifa was there for the purpose of violence toward the city of Kenosha. The Guard was there to protect Kenosha. The Kenosha Guard was pretty successful in it's mission.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:08PM (1 child)
Yeah, running back to the cops for protection, after this cowardly radicalized white terror baby killed someone in cold blood. Why are Trump supporters such scaredy-assed cowards? They see people marching for justice, and they start quaking in their diarrhea-filled boots. And then they start playing with their guns. Cowards! And our local coward, Runaway1956, cowardly defends their cowardly actions. No wonder he was in the Navy (allegedly) instead of a real fighting force that does not shell women and chilren, and puppies.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:38PM
What does the Coast Guard have to do with this?
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:42PM
The first video clearly shows the child molester (the first recipient of a Darwin Award lead vitamin pill) chasing Kyle into a car lot, trying to corner him. The child molester just wanted a little of the sweet white baby booty.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:43PM
I have an idea, Monkeyboy. How about you just stop pretending to know what you are talking about?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:42AM
No. The first relevant video is of Rittenhouse being chased by Anthony Huber. They are obscured by a car, then shots are fired. Huber is fatally wounded. Rittenhouse calls 911. While he is making the call other people turn up and chase him. He is dragged to the ground, kicked, and hit with a skateboard before he opens fire a second time, killing the skateboard wielder and wounding the guy attempting to shoot him with a pistol.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:52PM (6 children)
Wow it's as if someone else being convicted by a jury alters video evidence.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:00PM (5 children)
For many people it does alter the perception of such evidence
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:04PM (4 children)
Lemme put it another way. It's analogous to putting a laugh track on a comedy show. People have to be told what they are seeing.The jury determines truth, whether it's factual or not.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Bot on Friday August 28 2020, @09:01AM (3 children)
OK but are we gonna discuss the evidence? Self defense, case closed. Whatever a jury of potentially brainwashed socialists or conservatives decide is sadly a problem for the guy but not for the truth.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday August 28 2020, @03:19PM (2 children)
You don't know that. If he went in looking for trouble, it's not self defense, regardless what the video may show. Only the people that were there can know who drew first blood. The is no credibility. Nobody knows who paid whom. It wasn't a legitimate "protest" by any stretch of the word.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:46AM (1 child)
He was running away. The law is clear that you cannot attack people in self-defense if they are running away. Saying he put himself in "trouble" is irrelevant as soon as he started running away.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday August 30 2020, @03:59PM
The court, not you (or I) will decide.. To me, it is relevant. Intent is always relevant. It's the difference between murder and manslaughter.
And again, there is more than one opposing opinion of what is happening on the tape, so obviously it is not conclusive.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:35PM
See subject. Not laughing matters, no matter how sardonic you may be feeling.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @03:39PM (4 children)
Where wad your outrage for the myltiple recent murder victims of police?
Oh right, you're a hypocrite who defends murderers and laughs about it. You should be behind bars #FBI #NSA #DomesticTerroristFound
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:50PM (3 children)
If you really think he's a domestic terrorist, report him to the FBI. Probably nothing will happen since hey, old white alt-right dude, that's a good chunk of the alphabet-soup gang too, but you may as well if you're concerned enough.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:44PM (2 children)
Go ahead, you claim he is a terrorist every other breath. Or will you use your emigration as an excuse to not bother?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday August 27 2020, @10:04PM (1 child)
You're missing a few other possibilities here... :)
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @10:49PM
Yeesh, got TMB vibes off of that. I woyld rsther let the legal system do its job, but then again if it was we wouldn't be having this discussion.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @04:29PM (19 children)
https://apnews.com/97a0700564fb52d7f664d8de22066f88 [apnews.com]
Nope. 17 year old domestic terrorist murders someone he probably thought was looting (death penalty for looting? Ok, then death penalty for racism. Tit for tat you bigoted shitheel), domestic terrorist flees the scene and is chased by a crowd. They try and disarm and detain him, he shoots more people.
Lock the little turd away forever.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @04:37PM (16 children)
No looting. Every shot was fired in SELF DEFENSE. Get your story together. And, for a racist to shoot mostly people of his own race? Again, get your story together. Stupid sound bytes aren't cutting it.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:09PM (15 children)
Hey moron, read the linked article from the Associated Press. As non-partisan a report as you're going to find.
Kyle Ritterrorhouse shot one person, then the crowd went to apprehend him and he shot more people. I guess we can just wait it out, but as someone else pointed out you continue to defend white murderers and they keep getting locked up for murder.
You are a grade "A" moron.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:24PM (10 children)
Let us suppose that "the crowd" had authority to apprehend him. In fact, I can make that case, myself. It's called "citizen's arrest". Except - not one person in any of the videos can be quoted calling for a citizen's arrest. But, that is all rather beside the point. Kyle was running TOWARD the police. As he approached the police, he raised his hands, and attempted to surrender to police, who clearly have the authority to arrest.
We could run in circles with that all day long. And, when all is said and done, Kyle was still defending himself from a violent mob.
Facts are facts, and the mob didn't have time or opportunity to edit the video to prevent the facts coming out.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:22PM (6 children)
Correct. There are a bunch of people on video asking the POLICE to arrest him, though.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @07:47PM (5 children)
At least one guy would be alive if he had stood back, and permitted the police to handle things. See how that works? And, another murderous bastard would still have the use of his arm. But, despite the calls of SOME PEOPLE for police intervention, what we witnessed was a mob trying to kill Kyle before the police could get there. All the while, Kyle was running TO police, and members of the mob apparently wanted to prevent him getting to the police.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:13PM (4 children)
:-) Damn, man! It's like you were there or something! Were you? Do you have an alibi?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @08:22PM (3 children)
You can almost be there. Just watch all the videos offerd up on public channels. NYT does a fair job of presenting most of the timeline. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html [nytimes.com]
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:01PM (2 children)
I don't want to be there. And I question why anyone would want to be there. If they want to protest, go to the city council meetings. And maybe people can commit the unholy act of voting for a more responsive city council and mayor, or go against god himself and put initiatives on the ballot.
The riots are obviously counterproductive in every way, find out who is financing it. I'll bet Trump's (the brand) name is all over it.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:20PM (1 child)
Then you haven't been paying attention very well. George Soros name is all over Antifa. Trump isn't about to pay people to run wild through the streets. Trump generally doesn't pay anyone until the courts tell him that he must pay them.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0, Troll) by fustakrakich on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:29PM
Aliens stole my husband's skin!
:-) You sure are out there, buddy!
You'll dance to anything! [youtube.com]
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @06:58PM (2 children)
Wait, next thing you know, you'll say that maybe a random kid with a gun doesn't have the authority to patrol other people's property to protect it from theft. What is the world coming to?
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, motherfucker. Their right to a citizen's arrest is at least as valid as his right to act as a member of a militia.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 29 2020, @07:17PM
The only relevant right exercised was Rittenhouse's right to self-defense. You don't get to grab someone's gun just because you think they committed a crime, and you would be a fool to try it. Rittenhouse was retreating, not gunning random people down. You are going to be sorely disappointed by the outcome of the court case, but maybe you'll be more careful when playing lawyer in the future.
Oddly enough, the three people Rittenhouse defended himself against had violent criminal histories. What are the chances of that? It's like the opportunity to burn and loot attracts a certain kind of scumbag. If the police can't do their jobs and repel those scumbags, so-called "militia members" will have to step up.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @10:52AM
Certainly it is, but citizens arrest does not include flying kicks or blows to the head from a skateboard. At the point of inflicting possibly mortal injury you have transitioned from citizens arrest to lynch mob.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:55PM (3 children)
Hey Nobel prize candidate, look at the videos.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @11:55PM (2 children)
I did. Kid murders unarmed man, kid gets chased by angry crowd trying to apprehend him, kid murders one more and shoots another. At no point was the guy with a handgun even pointing it at the kid, if he wanted to kill the shitbird he would have shot him in the back like cops do.
Perhaps you should reboot. Better yet pull your power cord, you're obviously malfunctioning and a danger to society.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Friday August 28 2020, @08:55AM (1 child)
All videos.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2020, @09:14PM
Like the one showing him shoot an unarmed man? Proportional defense.
But hey, maybe this is a good thing? All the dickheads that like to pick fights and commit hate crimes can be put down as soon as they make a threatening move. It'll be a weird and pretty immoral way to rid the US of racist neo-nazi types, but whatever works? Also, if a police officer comes towards a citizen with their hand on their gun then the citizen is justified in putting down the cowardly cop. That one was Runaway1956's idea, arm the populace so the police are afraid of being murdered at every turn.
It'll be a bloody bloody solution, but since liberals are a much larger % of the population statistically the racists will get taken out much quicker. No amount of guns can make up for 20 people who will immediately whip out their guns and put you down as soon as you step out of line.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @06:02PM
Even the New Woke Times basically exonerate him. [twitter.com]
Meanwhile David Frum who wrote the speeches sending teens to Iraq suddenly has a problem when a teen has a gun? Iraq didn't attack the US on 9/11, BLM and Antifa are striking at the heart of liberal society - property rights secured by the rule of law. This is exactly what 2A was intended for!
(Score: 3, Troll) by Bot on Friday August 28 2020, @08:54AM
Racism and looting are two different things. The first pertains to your freedom to hate whoever you want, a freedom that leftists exercise explicitly btw. Looting interferes with other's property. This goes to show the already historically proven utter inability of socialists to discern the right from the wrong.
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(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2020, @09:09PM
You didn't get the memo: the rules are different for liberals.
Let's look at it. It is certainly NOT okay for cops to shoot people, especially innocent people. We all agree on that. Well, all sane people agree.
But it IS okay for liberals to destroy innocent people's belongings including cars, businesses, stores, inventory, loot, anything and everything, endangering people's lives in the process.
See, you have to first drink the liberal kool-aide and then you'll be woke.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 30 2020, @12:38AM
Woopsie looks like yer boy is a piece of shit https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/iixaux/kyle_rittenhouse_along_with_other_white_males/ [reddit.com]
Hope he gets separate charges for assault.