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In 2012, Julian Assange moved into the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

Little known is that the Ecuadorian embassy next hired a private security firm -- the Spanish company UC Global -- to protect their famous guest agains spying activity by Her Majesty's police force, which all this time was patiently waiting outside with tea and cookies.

German public broadcasters Westdeutscher Rundfunk (WDR) and NDR (Norddeutscher Rundfunk) now have managed to get their hands on confidential mails and video material belonging to UC Global (German language video).

Turns out that UC Global extensively deployed hidden cameras and microphones within the embassy. Everything was recorded: the IDs of every visitor to Assange, his doctor's visits and his talks with his psychiatrist, every move he made, or conversation he had: with American friends, journalists, his legal team and even Dana Rohrabacher (Rep California) allegedly dispatched there by President Trump himself.

Not wanting to overdo things, the UC Global team even fished a diaper of Assange's son out the trash bin, to compare DNA.

In the end though, their sense of duty had limitations -- and ended up in Spain's Audiencia Nacional court, with employees alleging they were sold out to do the CIA's bidding. The company's boss, a former special forces officer on leave of absence, was helpful enough to state both verbally and in writing to a number of his employees that, despite having been hired by the government of then-Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa, he also worked “for the Americans.”

“We are playing in another league. This is the first division,”

he told his closest colleagues after attending a security fair in the US city of Las Vegas in 2015 where he supposedly made his first American contacts.

The latest UK court session for Assange, on Sept 11, was postponed because one of the lawyers for the US side has contracted covid. The Court at the Old Bailey has to decide by the end of this year whether Assange will be extradited to the United States, where he risks 175 years jail time.

*postscript: the Assange case gets quite a bit of attention in Germany: see here for an overview, for a single public broadcaster alone.

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Sunday September 13 2020, @05:23PM (25 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday September 13 2020, @05:23PM (#1050412) Journal

    Well, he is Australian...

    The real question is who is going to contain the Americans or anybody else from reaching outside their borders? Certainly not the Brits! Somehow it has to be done though

    Horrible Injustice

    Still, we really don't know what he has that keeps him locked up like this. I would hope a nice big data dump could render the case moot. Instead, I wonder who the real players are and what the real story is.

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    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 13 2020, @11:20PM (24 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 13 2020, @11:20PM (#1050522)

      Really? You don't know that it is the email leaks from Seth Rich?

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      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday September 14 2020, @12:26AM (23 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday September 14 2020, @12:26AM (#1050556) Journal

        Then where are they?

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        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @06:15AM (17 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @06:15AM (#1050647)

          If it is blackmail it wouldn't work so well if it was published.

          I'm tired of the rightwing conspiracy shit being treated as truth while cited proof of Trump being a criminal working for Russia is laughed off. How many shills do we really have? Or are they all just propaganda guzzlers?

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @12:31PM (6 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @12:31PM (#1050706)

            Why should anyone take your non fact checked post seriously? Get it fact checked then maybe people will pay attention.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @07:04PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @07:04PM (#1050935)

              2 + 2 = 58.

              4 + 4 = BENGHAZI!!!!

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              Fact Checked by QAnon |x|

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:12PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:12PM (#1050976)

                Qanon turned out to be some guy at citibank, it is all about Wanon now.

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            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday September 15 2020, @12:49AM (3 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 15 2020, @12:49AM (#1051067) Homepage Journal

              Fact checkers? Who is fact checking the fact checkers?

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              Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 15 2020, @01:07AM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 15 2020, @01:07AM (#1051072)

                If you cant figure out how to get fact checked that is on you.

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                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday September 15 2020, @01:27AM (1 child)

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 15 2020, @01:27AM (#1051074) Homepage Journal

                  You mean, like Snopes? They were once a respected fact checker. Then they hired a Democrat shill to be their political fact checker. Snopes is history now.

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                  Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 15 2020, @02:01AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 15 2020, @02:01AM (#1051079)

                    No, humans are too biased. I wrote my own AI algo that I submit each post to for fact checking before I submit it.

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          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday September 14 2020, @01:57PM (7 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday September 14 2020, @01:57PM (#1050752) Journal

            Funny that Woodward was the very first to produce evidence, actual tapes of the man admitting to a crime that resulted in thousands of deaths. And yet, there is still no effort in congress to press charges. They would rather patrol Twitter and Facebook for Russiagators. The whole game is bogus. And Trump will be handed another win.

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            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
            • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday September 14 2020, @05:58PM (6 children)

              by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday September 14 2020, @05:58PM (#1050881) Journal

              There was a tape last time, too. Republicans are traitors and another impeachment would just help Trump.

              • (Score: 0, Troll) by fustakrakich on Monday September 14 2020, @06:10PM (4 children)

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday September 14 2020, @06:10PM (#1050896) Journal

                There was a tape last time, too.

                For the impeachment hearing? What tape? That hearing really helped the republicans. A swing and a miss! This time there is a clear case. Of course I don't expect it to happen, and you are right, it will only motivate more of his supporters (dreadful that he has any, it is definitely a psychosis). Let sleeping dogs lie and hope for the best

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                La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @07:06PM (3 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @07:06PM (#1050937)

                  Troll

                  Democrats on the march! Look at that hair trigger! They're our only hope! Ban the mirror!

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @07:40PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @07:40PM (#1050948)
                    Poor victim! Don't they know you are entitled? Why can't they see that?
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @07:54PM (1 child)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @07:54PM (#1050951)

                      :-) The mirror is your greatest enemy!

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:04PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:04PM (#1050975)

                        Look at yourself in the mirror and then wach the back of your foot with your dong.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:14PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:14PM (#1050977)

                We must elect Biden, then he will immediately step down and Harris will take power. Then we can have an extra four years of Harris, then Harris 2024 and 2028. Trumptard heads will explode!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @08:28PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @08:28PM (#1050964)

            Why is it always "rightwing conspiracy", but never left wing or liberal conspiracy??

            • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:41PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:41PM (#1050985)

              Left-wing conspiracy theorists exist, but they are relatively rare. They are enormously outnumbered by right-wing conspiracy theorists. The right-wing mentality goes hand-in-hand with just making up bullshit (or reading and believing propaganda online) and then believing it means there is some sort of unfair conspiracy against you, and then ranting for days or weeks on end about it.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @12:28PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @12:28PM (#1050705)

          They were released in 2016...

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  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday September 13 2020, @08:16PM (2 children)

    by Bot (3902) on Sunday September 13 2020, @08:16PM (#1050456) Journal

    I guess the punishment scale is like this:
    violence, robbery against the peasant - low
    hurting the powerful or the institutions - medium hi
    hurting big money (like duplicating CDs) - quite hi
    exposing the powerful ones - suicide tier hi

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    Account abandoned.
    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday September 13 2020, @09:40PM

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday September 13 2020, @09:40PM (#1050492) Journal

      Can't be helped

      Guess now we know why was invited to stay to begin with... Place has more holes than the Albert Hall.

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      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 17 2020, @05:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 17 2020, @05:41PM (#1052299)

      Huh, a Bot post devoid of stupidity!

      Now if you nutters would just stop promoting fascists we might have a chance of reversing that list. Best of luck in Italy, now please stop meddling in US affiars K PLEASE THANKS!

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 13 2020, @09:03PM (24 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 13 2020, @09:03PM (#1050477) Homepage Journal

    The powerful can talk out one side of their mouths, praising the freedom of the press. At the same time, the powerful can crucify a member of the press who crosses them.

    Assange well and truly fucked himself by going to the embassy when he needed help. He should have pulled a Snowden, and gone straight to Russia. China or North Korea might have worked. I don't know if there is any other place on earth where he would have been safe.

    This whole fiasco just teaches contempt for American politicians and the "intel" communities. And, fuck the Five Eyes in their eyes, they all prostitute themselves to our corrupt systems.

    Trump could redeem some of his stupid schitzls by pardoning both Assange and Snowden before leaving office.

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    Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Monday September 14 2020, @02:28AM (3 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 14 2020, @02:28AM (#1050597) Journal

      Assange well and truly fucked himself by going to the embassy when he needed help. He should have pulled a Snowden, and gone straight to Russia. China or North Korea might have worked. I don't know if there is any other place on earth where he would have been safe.

      He has the reputation of Wikileaks to think of. Going to Russia or those other places would compromise that.

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday September 14 2020, @06:17PM (2 children)

        by Freeman (732) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 14 2020, @06:17PM (#1050902) Journal

        All things considered, I'm not sure it would have hurt Wikileaks reputation.

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        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
        • (Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday September 15 2020, @01:09PM (1 child)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 15 2020, @01:09PM (#1051243) Journal
          The people complaining that Wikileaks doesn't do enough about the bigger authoritarian powers like Russia and China would have a lot more ammunition.
          • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday September 15 2020, @03:07PM

            by Freeman (732) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 15 2020, @03:07PM (#1051329) Journal

            True, but the would be leakers from either country tend to just end up dead or disappeared (which usually means dead).

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            Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @04:47AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @04:47AM (#1050631)

      Interesting, I haven't heard of "stupid schitzls" as an excuse for traitorous crimes and corruption.

      For the current scandals we have Trump knowing that COVID-19 was more dangerous than the flu and spread through the air. Lying to the entire country only resulted in millions of people not taking the danger seriously and making the US the worst country regarding COVID-19. If you buy any of the various excuses, especially "not creating a panic" then you're a brain dead ratbag.

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday September 14 2020, @01:46PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday September 14 2020, @01:46PM (#1050743) Journal

        That's Runaway: tribal moron to the core. He hates gays, trans* people, "liberals," and "Marxists" so hard he'll throw his entire weight behind Trump (while strenuously insisting he doesn't support or like him...) just to make sure "THOSE PEOPLE!!!!111" suffer. I believe he refers to this as "making common cause" with them, and seems to believe that he is completely immune from any sort of unintentional backfiring or other consequences of "making common cause" with them.

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @06:50AM (11 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @06:50AM (#1050654)

      I am so happy that Runway has finally come to terms with, and admires the patriotism of, Chelsea Manning! Way to "man-up", Runaway! About time to admit that US Forces were intentionally targeting journalists, and children, in Iraq. Very Bigly, of you, Runway!

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday September 14 2020, @06:57AM (10 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 14 2020, @06:57AM (#1050658) Homepage Journal

        Bradley Manning was not and is not a journalist. Bradley Manning was never entitled to any considerations due a member of the press. Bradley Manning was bound by the same oath that every service member takes. Bradley Manning betrayed his oath, and he betrayed all other service members. Manning's actions were little more than a bitchy tantrum in response to being disciplined by his senior NCOs.

        Manning wouldn't make a good pimple on either Assange or Snowden's asses.

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        Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday September 14 2020, @01:43PM (1 child)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday September 14 2020, @01:43PM (#1050741) Journal

          Remember: legal/illegal and moral/immoral are two separate axes. People who don't understand this are a grave threat to civilization. And laws emerge from morals, as they are social technology themselves, so the close to orthogonal with morality laws become, the worse situation we find ourselves in.

          Besides, someone can be right for the wrong reasons and by the wrong routes. You manage to pull that off once every couple of months, for example.

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          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @05:06PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @05:06PM (#1050847)

            Dictators seize guns. Trumo is on record saying take guns first, worry about legality later. Runaway's favorite freedumb is most at risk with Trumo. Bit of a perfect analogy for the insanity of conservatives.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Monday September 14 2020, @01:48PM (5 children)

          by c0lo (156) on Monday September 14 2020, @01:48PM (#1050746) Journal

          Bradley Manning betrayed his oath

          I have to see what oath he took to agree he actually betrayed it.
          Does the oath also say "I'll cover the ass journalists killers [wikileaks.org]?"

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          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday September 14 2020, @03:19PM (3 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 14 2020, @03:19PM (#1050795) Homepage Journal

            Been down THAT road many times. The journalists chose to embed themselves into an insurgent enemy unit. That unit was actively engaged in firing upon US troops when the helicopter fired on it. The journalists carried a long-lensed camera that was mistaken for a rocket launcher. Sux to be part of an insurgent unit when it meets superior fire power. If you are incapable of laying down your preconceived notions before watching the video, that is on you.

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            Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:52PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:52PM (#1050988)

              Runaway only had to gobble four cocks before forgetting his oath as a soldier.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @10:00PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @10:00PM (#1050991)

                And, how long have you been a stalker/fan of Runaway? You should see a shrink about your obsession.

                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 15 2020, @07:41AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 15 2020, @07:41AM (#1051179)

                  I was stationed on a base his ship stopped at. We kept in touch, he told me about this site a little while ago when trying to spread some Facebook spin about the President's disrespect of veterans. That bullcrap pisses me off, so I shared a rather intimate detail Runaway was bragging about on a Facebook group.

                  I guess you are another internet tough guy that wishes they'd had what it takes to enlist. I feel for you son, but that does not remove your responsibilities.

          • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday September 14 2020, @06:04PM

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday September 14 2020, @06:04PM (#1050887) Journal

            Snowden and Manning both swore similar oaths.

            Interesting how Runaway only cares about one of them....

            It's a moot point, anyway. They swore their oaths to defend the constitution. Blowing the whistle on un-constitutional activities IS defending the constitution.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @05:58PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @05:58PM (#1050880)

          Bradley Manning was not and is not a journalist. Bradley Manning was never entitled to any considerations due a member of the press.

          Members of the press are not due any considerations that are not due to every other fucking citizen.

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday September 14 2020, @06:19PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 14 2020, @06:19PM (#1050903) Homepage Journal

            Want to try again? Journalists are routinely given courtesies at crime scenes not afforded to the public. Walk into any police department, and ask them for an interview, and you'll be politely asked to leave. An accredited journalist will get at least some kind of statement from the PR people, but not you. Visit the mayor's office expecting to get an interview. Try to snag an interview with any political candidate without press credentials, and see how far you get.

            Government bends over backward to please the press, and even more so when the press is perceived as "friendly".

            When was the last time you got to sit in on a White House press conference?

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            Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Monday September 14 2020, @01:40PM (5 children)

      by c0lo (156) on Monday September 14 2020, @01:40PM (#1050736) Journal

      Trump could redeem some of his stupid schitzls by pardoning both Assange and Snowden before leaving office.

      He actually can't pardon them. Neither of them have been sentenced.
      He can't put an end to their prosecution either, the next administration can make an U-turn, the same way Trump U-turned many of the Obama's.

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      • (Score: 1, Informative) by fustakrakich on Monday September 14 2020, @01:48PM (4 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday September 14 2020, @01:48PM (#1050745) Journal

        He actually can't pardon them.

        Ford pardoned Nixon before any charges were filed. And besides, I wouldn't so quick to pardon a guy that ran off to Russia. And another thing, if Snowden had real information, he would be dead, like Epstein

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        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday September 14 2020, @07:02PM (1 child)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 14 2020, @07:02PM (#1050931) Homepage Journal

          You're being silly now. The DNC doesn't have a headquarters in Russia.

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          Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @07:10PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @07:10PM (#1050939)

            Maybe not, but they sure are mad now! Flinging mod points like poo!

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday September 14 2020, @08:11PM (1 child)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday September 14 2020, @08:11PM (#1050958) Journal

          Ford had a few years of runway in front of him...

          Not sure how you pardon nonexistent charges on the way OUT.

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