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The howls of TDS and the Atlantic is FAKE NEWS yesterday, only to be admitted to by Trump today.
Donald Trump White House Press Briefing Transcript September 23
We want to have… Get rid of the ballots and we’ll have a very peaceful… There won’t be a transfer frankly, there’ll be a continuation. The ballots are out of control. You know it, and you know who knows it better than anybody else? The Democrats know it better than anybody else.
Yesterday: Trump campaign's plan get rid of the ballots and simply declare Trump the winner
TDS Yesterday, Direct Quote from Trump Today
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Now KEN and BARBIE are PERMANENTLY ADDICTED to MIND-ALTERING DRUGS ...
(Score: 3, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 24 2020, @06:26PM (37 children)
Oh, my bad! He didn't admit to it today, he admitted to it YESTERDAY!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by DannyB on Thursday September 24 2020, @09:46PM (26 children)
It is amazing, or not so amazing, that crazy people will cry TDS when anyone reports facts that make Trump look bad.
Especially when it is Trump's own words.
They just can't handle it.
But they will call YOU (and me, and others no doubt) DERANGED.
For facts.
Another one, is I produced a long list of articles, and several that are detailed timeline comparing the dates of what Trump said about COVID, compared to what actually happened, increasing cases, deaths, etc. Watching that time line starting in March truly shows just how responsible Trump is. Yet what did the first comment say? It is: sophistry. Something to make Trump look bad.
Free clue: Trump makes himself and his cult followers look bad.
If you eat an entire cake without cutting it, you technically only had one piece.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @03:41AM (4 children)
I suspect Trump is one of the unbegotten. Once I was scrutinizing his words and a glass jar exploded in the froom.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @08:18AM (3 children)
Who put a glass jar in a froom? Everyone knows glass becomes very unstable in a froom.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @09:38PM (2 children)
Actually, I dont know. Maybe Trump put it there!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @10:17AM (1 child)
I think you're right. I bet he thought covfefe would stabilize it.
(Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Monday September 28 2020, @10:40PM
No, the glass jar must be contained in a Covfefe within a Froom but is stable only in Thighland!
Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @08:09AM (20 children)
I HATE to break it to you, but you and the rest of you who are infected with TDS are comical. I mean, it's actually entertaining to watch you nuts go apeshit over anything Trump says or tweets.
Trump's been around for a long time and just likes attention. He's like a little kid who just isn't happy until he gets someone stirred up one way or another. Ignore him and you'll do him the greatest dishonor.
Here's how Freedom of Speech works: if you say dumb shit, I barely care! See how that works? You can babble on all you want and I go about my life.
I don't get my medical advice from a president! Amazing, huh! You probably think I'm an IDIOT. I should do everything Trump says, right? Bad news for you- I didn't take orders from Obama, nor idiot Bush, nor Trump, nor will I from Biden if he wins. Get that? I'm going to wear a mask if Trump does or doesn't. I'm going to wear one even if my radical right-wing friends don't. I'm going to wear one even if my radical left-wing friends don't.
Do you see the comedy in your "logic" yet? You and the lot of you freak out over stupid shit! That's what's so comical!
The root of it is that y'all hate Trump so much, but the irony is: if he's such an idiot, why do you give so much credit to what he says?
It's Congress who you should bellyache about and AT.
Go get a life. Stop all the kvetching and be the great citizen you have the illusion you are. Even with COVID and the mess there's still a ton to do- productive, fun, uplifting, inspiring, helping, adult. You've got wisdom and skills. Stop wasting so much time here, making yourself and others miserable, and do something creative and productive. Tutor / teach the knowledge you have. Get a teaching certificate. Something useful.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @08:14AM (4 children)
Too old a shtick, worked pre-2016, no longer today.
I'll do one better, just mod you Troll and move on.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @08:20AM (3 children)
You're right- freedom of speech is a thing of the past.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @08:36AM (2 children)
Your freeze-peaches don't carry my obligation to listen.
Nor does it impede my freeze-peaches to communicate to others: "This is a troll post". Right or wrong, my opinion is still freeze-peach.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @03:30PM (1 child)
And yet you did, then couldn't control yourself and had to reply, more than once.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @04:08PM
Isn't it amazing how people can react when under no obligation?
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 25 2020, @04:50PM (10 children)
You can't explain it to them: THEY CAUSED TRUMP TO BE ELECTED!! Mainstream media put Trump into office, and mainstream media is ensuring that he stays in office for the next four years.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @05:24PM (7 children)
So you hate the MSM, cry about them pushing authoritarian agendas, tell us they are the ones causing Trump to be elected . . .
AND THEN YOU DECIDE TO VOTE FOR TRUMP?
Am I taking crazy pills? Did teh gubbmint aerovehicles spray LSD laced chemtrails everywhere? WHAT IS GOING ON WITH REALITY??? WHEN DID RUNAWAY BECOME A REBEL AND A BOOTLICKER AT THE SAME TIME???????
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 25 2020, @05:44PM (6 children)
Yes, you must be taking crazy pills. I didn't vote for Trump. I won't be voting for Trump. But I DAMNED SURE won't be voting for the lefties who are taking the crazy pills.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @06:22PM
Not voting for lefties or Trump? So you're voting for Biden?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @06:49PM (1 child)
Well that is an improvement over refusing to say you won't vote for Trump. His incompetence hand narcissism has killed Americans, his greedy corruption has stolen so much tax payer money, and his divisive rhetoric is leading us towards civil war.
Anyone But Trump 2020
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 26 2020, @03:49PM
"Anything but Nixon, man ... a blender ... anything!" -- NatLamp Radio Dinner
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Funny) by Magic Oddball on Saturday September 26 2020, @12:23AM (1 child)
I admit that I'm feeling increasingly tempted to buy a fake-campaign lawn sign that says "Giant Meteor 2020 / Just End It Already!"
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday September 26 2020, @08:34AM
See also https://is2020over.com/ [is2020over.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 13 2020, @09:37PM
So you're taking injections rather than pills?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @08:37PM (1 child)
Yeah, it would be much better if they just rolled over and let the raping of the Republic continue unabated! Resistance is futile!</sarcasm>
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday September 27 2020, @01:17PM
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @06:06PM (2 children)
That works until you're either Jewish and living in Germany during the 1930s or black, brown, and/or LGBT and living in the USA during the 2020s.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @03:50PM (1 child)
What? It's never been better to be black, brown, or of nonstandard sexual or gender orientation in the USA. Rodney King was 30 years ago. 20 years ago gay marriage was illegal and gayness was frowned upon. The police are still jackbooted thugs that love to abuse their power, but nowadays they are many times more likely to face consequences than in the past.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @07:56PM
I don't remember there being concentration camps 20-30 years ago.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday September 28 2020, @12:09AM
That is a weirdly low bar to set for the president of your whole country.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 24 2020, @09:50PM (1 child)
Admit this [townhall.com]
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday September 28 2020, @12:24AM
Great link!
The first thing that site tries to do is grift money with a popup that wants money to "fight for the supreme court".
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @12:06AM (3 children)
dead heat in the polls in battleground states plus a 48% approval rating for Trump
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @03:43PM (2 children)
So we can just make up bullshit now and it's true?
Heck, if you're going to lie, why not just make it higher? 54% approval rating for Trump! 76%! You could even say that Trump has 103% approval rating and Biden has negative 12%, and Fox News Believers would believe it!
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 25 2020, @05:16PM (1 child)
SHHH!!!
What do 2020 Trumpers and 2016 Clintoners have in common: they both though they had it in the bag
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @01:02AM
Oh [newsweek.com] who is the bagman? [baltimorechronicle.com]
Do you ever have moments of lucidity where you realize you are retarded?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @01:56PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/top-republican-in-pennsylvania-senate-shoots-down-false-theory-that-legislature-would-rig-electoral-college-for-trump?_amp=true [washingtonexaminer.com]
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:44PM (2 children)
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/midst-pandemic-blanketed-wildfire-smoke-city-berkeley-focused-banning-candy-bars [zerohedge.com]
And Dems actually want us to believe they are sane and rational. Think I'll go eat a Snicker's bar . . .
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 29 2020, @10:13PM (1 child)
You already shitposted that crap ya spammer!
Is this all you've got left to distract you from the truth about Trump? We predicted you would bury your head in the sand and double down on hatred. It isn't too late big guy, come join us in the reality appreciating sanity loving corruption hating version of reality! It really isn't bad at all, empathy even makes you feel better! Hatred is so Spanish Inquisition anyway.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday September 29 2020, @11:11PM
https://i3.cpcache.com/product/281946426/rotflmao_mousepad.jpg?side=Front&height=460&width=460&qv=90 [cpcache.com]
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday September 24 2020, @07:03PM (78 children)
Trump's base would support him no matter what he did. We're not dealing with functioning humans here; they're wired to be "authoritarian follower" types. Don't try to reason with them, don't waste the energy on them, don't give them the time of day. They are enemies of the US, of the Constitution, and of civilization in general...*and there is nothing we can do about it.*
Either "gray rock" them (look it up; it's how you deal with an abusive narcissist), or mock them mercilessly. Trump and company's entire schtick is built on lies and puffery. They've convinced their followers that their clownshoes are combat boots, their giant clown wigs are army helmets, and their bouncy polka-dotted trousers with a hula hoop in the middle are "tactical" army gear.
There remains nothing left but to isolate them, mock them, or some combination of both as you see fit. They willingly and gleefully burned their human cards ages ago.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 24 2020, @07:23PM (29 children)
The day Obama was elected Bush's base simply disappeared. On Jan 20 you couldn't find a single person who supported Bush ever.
I predict the same will occur when Biden is elected.
Now that isn't to claim any actual problems will be resolved by it, that's on the Dems, but it will make this forum significantly less terrible!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 24 2020, @07:36PM (2 children)
Then it'll be "taxes are theft!!@@!!" as people earning over 200-400k / year pay a little more. Can't wait for whining about insignificant things like dijon mustard, tan suits, and too-casual salutes.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 24 2020, @08:24PM (1 child)
God, tan suits again, that would be wonderful!
Also, you'll need to be earning over $400k to get a tax raise from Biden.
Biden: 'No new taxes' for anyone making under $400K [thehill.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 24 2020, @10:22PM
Gosh, for once I got my timing right...my income fluctuates and by nearly random chance, last year was a big year (there will be small years for awhile now, no more big ones in sight).
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Thursday September 24 2020, @09:18PM (20 children)
Something I've noticed on my commute this year is the comparative lack of Trump campaign signs. In 2016 they were EVERYWHERE. Now there are only a few here and there in yards that appear to be die hard GOPers.
In 2016, there was a distinct lack of Clinton signs, even in the yards of people who had signs up for the Democrats of local and state elections. IIRC correctly there was one, maybe two small signs.
This year I am seeing a LOT of Biden-Harris signs. Not quite as many that had Trump signs in 2016, but definitely a massive increase over the Clinton tally.
Now, this is just anecdotal, but I do find it curious. It'll be interesting to see if it is an indication of a actual shift in support, or if it is just less outward expression of it.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 24 2020, @09:57PM (11 children)
We already know Trump has lost the vote. He has lost supporters and didn't even get the popular vote in 2016. This election will show just how badly the GOP can undermine democracy. The EC needs to go, makes it way too easy to just cheat key districts.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 24 2020, @10:28PM (5 children)
Abolish the college, defund the police, burn it all down -- The Democrats.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 24 2020, @11:10PM (4 children)
1. Yup
2. Nope, reallocate some police funds for services that police should not be used for
3. Nope, that is what Trumpers are doing
So we now have Trump going full dictator saying he will throw out ballots and he won't step down peacefully. You idiots are psychotic.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @06:17PM (3 children)
Oh damn, I'm a left libertarian and I was hoping we actually would abolish the police, prisons, and the private accumulation of socially produced wealth that those institutions exist to protect.
Egh fine I guess technically we have to be in the socialist era first anyhow.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @02:07AM (2 children)
Libertarians should also be in favor of abolishing ICE. Libertarians don't want to allow actual criminals to enter the country, but otherwise believe in open borders. That is often used to attack Democrats but Libertarians are the real party of open borders. It's in the party platform. I give Libertarians a lot of credit for their consistency of supporting the free movement of both goods and labor across borders. As a Democrat, I agree with all of the views you stated in your comment. For that matter, I agree with Libertarians about open borders. As a Democrat, I see a lot more common ground with Libertarians than I do with Republicans.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @07:22AM (1 child)
Defund ICE! Abolish DHS, or in the Original German, the Swartz Heimatschutzministerium! About time to make America, American again, and not kitcshy New York Real Estate Reality TV show-ish. Death to Trump, death to his brand, death to Fox News! And death to the alt-right, the neo-nazis and neo-confederates, death to stupid and deplorable! Death to Religious freedom that demands the right to discriminate! And death to their gods, all of them. So, are we done? Defund the Republican party, all the Billionaires have more or less recognized it is a money-pit of grifters!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 13 2020, @09:47PM
Death to Extremists!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @12:10AM (4 children)
you're forgetting that the riots are costing dems votes
no rational voter wants to see his neighborhood burnt down
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @12:42AM (1 child)
Why has that happened? Last I heard it was the West coast with neighborhoods burning and Trump couldn't give a fuck or allocate federal funds to help.
I hope you're just a troll and don't actually believe all the FUD about protesters hiding under your bed to getcha when you fall asleep.
Meanwhile we have rightwing terrorists prepping on their FB groups to murder protesters. Gaslight Obstruct Project as usual, soon to be updated to Genocide Objectify Persecute.
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 25 2020, @05:18PM
Revealed: pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies [theguardian.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @07:37PM (1 child)
I do! If it will get rid of those Millennial gentrifiers who are driving my property taxes sky high, and attracting Starbucks and Hole Foods and "gourmet" hot dog shops. We may have adopt Sherman tactics. Oh, and fuck Trump!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @07:29AM
I do, too. You ever notice, that when a neighborhood burns, the neighbors help each other out, so none of their houses burn. Instead is the houses that are unoccupied, because they are owned by absentee speculators. Or, at worst, by Republicans like Mr. and Mrs. Karen, in St. Louis. [yahoo.com] Somebody ought to have shot them for that shit. But, point being, all their neighbors were kinda hoping for the same outcome? Because no body liked them. So, people, when the "riots" are coming to your neighborhood, talk to your neighbors, have a plan, and watch out for the White supremacist cops. Peace and love, y'all!
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday September 25 2020, @08:11AM
You are not living in a swing state, that would be my guess.
Trump campaign is focusing hard in swing states with republican led legislatures: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
The "bad mouths" go further and say [businessinsider.com.au]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 3, Insightful) by deimtee on Friday September 25 2020, @08:30PM (1 child)
Just from watching the news here, I would guess that a lot of potential sign displayers are having second thoughts. Displaying a Trump sign appears to be an invitation for a passing mob to throw a few molotovs or at least tear down the fences, smash a few windows and graffiti the walls.
Not saying it actually is, mind you, but the news sure paints it that way.
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @05:14PM
Yup, was just about to post the same thing. You'd have to be a major fool to put up a Trump sign. If you're a Trump supporter / voter, you're much safer putting up a Biden sign, or none at all.
That said, I'm almost stunned to see Trump signs on my neighbors' yards, and my area / county has been swinging more and more left, as the city folk flee the city and infest my once remote rural farming suburbs- farms gone now. Thank you cities and your liberal governments which breed more criminals, rising crime rates, more productive people leaving, bringing the city's productivity and general living status down down down.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @08:39PM
I'm not seeing as many Trump signs either. However based on people I talk to who had a sign last year but didn't this year, his support is mostly the same in number but more wishy-washy in terms of enthusiasm. He really only dipped with retirees when he threatened their Social Security and working women who think hes generally blown it on COVID and calming things down. I think it is a sign that the Republican voters know that putting his signs out and actually be seen supporting him this year is a bad idea despite their plan to vote Red until they're dead.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @04:00PM (3 children)
In my area, I've seen very few signs for either Trump or Biden. There's a distinct lack of excitement or care about the election, probably because most people have already decided? At this point I doubt many people are going to be swayed without some very serious blunder or event happening.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @05:20PM (2 children)
Nope. As commented above, Trump supporters are not as stupid as the left seems to think. A Trump sign is as good as a "smash, loot, and burn here" sign.
As some young conservatives in a Chicago area demonstration commented: ' "You don't see the Republicans attacking other people," a student organizer says. '
'nuff said.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @06:46AM
Actually, they are, and then some. Getting rid of the Affordable Care Act? Stupid Trump supporters. The Ayn Paul Ryan Tax cut for the wealthy, fucking over the middle class? Stupid Trump supporters. Cutting back on environmental and labor laws, outsourcing jobs, and basically fucking over the middle class and renters? Trump supporters, more stupid than the left thinks. So stupid, in fact, that Trump is going to let a large majority of the them die of Covid-19, from attending his Narcissistic rallies. How stupid do you have to be. Reminds me of Thulsa Doom. Do you know the secret of steel? Trump supporters, jumping off cliffs of their own self interest, into the Doom of the Trump(tm) Republican Party, UnAmerican.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday September 28 2020, @12:54AM
You can if you look hard enough. [theguardian.com]
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday September 24 2020, @09:48PM (4 children)
Big problem there: Trump will win.
Even if he loses. He will stay in office.
I don't know what he'll do, but he just won't leave.
If you eat an entire cake without cutting it, you technically only had one piece.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 24 2020, @10:08PM
Trump will win.
Chaa! He's running unopposed!
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 25 2020, @06:58PM
Well, the Atlantic followed by Trump himself just told what he'll do. Ignore the ballots and then get Republican legislatures in friendly states to force the Electors declare Trump the winner.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @08:48PM
He'll just "inspect" the bunker again.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:36AM
Call Pest Control.
(Score: 3, Touché) by krishnoid on Thursday September 24 2020, @08:15PM (3 children)
The guns are real, though.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 24 2020, @08:26PM (2 children)
Oh yeah, there will definitely be violence from the white supremacist terrorists still but that was going to continue no matter what.
They'll just go back to blaming it on "economic anxiety" when they go shoot up another historical black church.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 24 2020, @11:35PM (1 child)
https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/24/wisconsin-mail-in-voting-absentee-ballot-usps-election/ [dailycaller.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @12:00AM
Gee, maybe we should have an experienced Postmaster that isn't a political crony hellbent on destroying the USPS for his own monetary gain??
Just a thought!
PS: we already know Trump and his cronies are staging false-flag attacks on Democracy in some vain attempt to discredit the election. If there is doubt about the election then Trump is out and we'll have President Pelosi. Not my preferred future, but fuck if I'm letting a fascist dictator with a daddy complex destroy the rule of law in this great country!
(Score: 2, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 25 2020, @01:04AM (15 children)
Those protesters you are watching on television are not Trump supporters. The "fiery but peaceful" protests are against Trump, and against law and order. The "Wall of Teats" in Portland are all against Trump.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 25 2020, @03:42AM (13 children)
HA HA You're just trying to turn around what we've all known since the beginning. "antifa" rioters are Trump people. Trump is the one that benefits from the burning cities, since he targeted the democrat ones. Then he tells people the democrats can't control it. It's great propaganda. Look how you are falling for it!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @03:56AM (12 children)
Yes, Trump bullied democratic governors to send covid patients into nursing homes then replicate tried to blame them! Its the same trick.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 25 2020, @04:17AM (2 children)
Nothing to do with the rioters that he sends out. Who is stupid enough to believe the democrats benefit from that?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @04:30AM (1 child)
Read this: https://www.scribd.com/document/477366112/Flynn-Memo-Sept-24-2020 [scribd.com]
They really are that stupid and self destructive.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 26 2020, @03:54PM
Still nothing to do with who the rioters are...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by dry on Friday September 25 2020, @04:32AM (8 children)
Well, he knew how contagious it was and how deadly to old people and didn't say anything. If you watch a blind man walk over a cliff edge and don't say or do anything to try to stop him, have you committed a crime?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @04:51AM (7 children)
You must have no idea how you seem to normal people when discussing this. Assuming you exist of course.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @05:00AM (6 children)
Haha the MAGA turd thinks it is normal!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @05:05AM (5 children)
PanDEMic = dem panic
Most importantly though is that the spying and debt increases according to plan.
(Score: 2) by acid andy on Friday September 25 2020, @12:00PM (4 children)
Puh-lease! Where were all these complainers when civil liberties were truly being eroded as the surveillance state expanded? All this whining now about how wearing masks is authoritarianism when the real dangerous authoritarianism that's been growing for 20 years just got ignored or even supported by the general public. It's so depressing.
Master of the science of the art of the science of art.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @12:50PM (3 children)
Wat?
The point is that the president is irrelevant to the overall plan that's been unfolding over decades. Anyone voting republican or democrat (like you) is a useful idiot selling out their country.
There does seem to be something good about trump just because the usual suspects are so against him, but surveillance and debt has only increased on his watch.
Why isn't there any actual legitimate criticism of Trump rather than the BS like the OP that just makes people disgusted with Democrats?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @05:30PM (1 child)
The "usual suspects" as you call them are like the shepherd. Tending the flock carefully so they can harvest later. Trump is like the wolf, just eats the flock with no care for sustainability.
We can argue about how bad the government abuses of power have become, but right now we need to kick the wolf out if we want to survive long enough to make things better.
Personally I would rather the electorate work together and spend a few administrations demanding zero changes except for the specific issues like removing mass surveillance, ending our occupations of foreign countries where feasible, and passing election reforms to ensure we remain a viable democracy. I would happily forget about more drastic changes like universal healthcare and education if it meant conservatives would stop trying to go full fascist so we could work together to fix the Very Bad Things the government is doing.
(Score: 2) by acid andy on Friday September 25 2020, @05:40PM
I've been having similar thoughts lately. For all the flamewars the go on on this site, almost everyone is against authoritarianism. We mostly disagree on which bits of authoritarianism we care about, but we ought to be able to identify this common ground. Pity so few in the wider public understand or even care about such issues.
Master of the science of the art of the science of art.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @04:02PM
Flamebait, Redundatnt
Telling the truth only triggers the democrat moderators.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @03:45AM
The fascist defends murder under the guise of law and order, while condemning protesters under the same.
Constitutional rights be damned, just look at Florida's attempt at anti-protester police state legislation.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by c0lo on Friday September 25 2020, @07:43AM (14 children)
This is not how you deal with de-radicalization, on the contrary.
Even if you'd get rid of the polarizing political figures in US, it would take a lot of time for the people of US to find a common ground. Isolating into two "us and them" tribes, taunting each other at the best of their behaviour, is no gonna cut it.
And if you escalate, you will get to a point of literally in-fight (and you and ari will be as guilty for is as runaway and fusta).
(put this dystopian scenario in your pipe and smoke it: if a civil war starts in US, all that China and Russia will need to do is to let/encourage you fight long enough until you will ask UN for peace keeping operations. Guess whose troupes will "maintain peace" in US?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday September 26 2020, @02:42AM (13 children)
The country's already a lost cause. I understood that in November 2016, and had long-distance premonitions of it that day in 2001 when the towers came down, close enough for me to see the smoke going up. I simply don't care any longer. Why the hell do you think I'm trying so hard to get out of here? Canada's been on my radar since 2008, believe or it not.
The US is dead. Let it burn. I just need to make sure I'm on the other side of the border before the burning begins in earnest.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday September 26 2020, @06:47AM (12 children)
I see... almost "Fuck you, I got mine" with the minor difference in the fact you haven't yet got it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday September 26 2020, @07:37AM (5 children)
We have to support our millennia Azuma, she is the hope of the future. Just, not a lot of hope there? I keep telling her, I have been though much darker times, and the American situation right now seems like farce more than tragedy. The conservatives have reduced themselves to their core, rampant selfishness and destruction. Not going to play well in the hinterlands, or for that matter anywhere. So they will implode. Like to see what happens if the Supreme Court, with a Catholic Majority, reverses Rowe v. Wade. Has anyone been paying attention to Poland? Solidarinosc? Just because you can seize power, and ram through your minority opinion, does not mean you have the power to make it stick. Republicans have overreached, they have gone too far, they have touched the Black Sun, they have come undone.
So I hope our junior editor stays the course, resists the greener maple leaves across the river, and make America what it was before. Just hoping.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday September 26 2020, @08:33AM (3 children)
First, I wasn't judgemental, only cynical.
Second, you can't ask to sacrifice her life only because you put your hopes in her. Personally, I chose to immigrate as well (so, I got mine, too) and I can sympathize with her feelings.
Also as a matter of personal choice, I stopped short of the "fuck you" towards those I left behind - it's such a waste of time and mental energy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday September 26 2020, @09:16AM (2 children)
I of course defer to our Soylentil of actual experience. But it hardly seems analogous, unless you were under Lukashenko, in Belarus, or Nicolae Ceaușescu in Romania, or, . . . but this is a well known game, where I try to get c0lo to reveal his country of exile, which is not important. Of course, we have many expats here on SoylentNews. Janrinok is in exile across the channel. Bradley-small-number is landlocked in Swiss territory. khallow is an exile in Wyoming, from Califorinia, at least for the tourist season. And of course, Ethanol_fuckered, exiled to San Diego, but only because no one knows he is there, yet. Not to mention myself, right now far from my native Samos, which I miss very much. But the point still stands, we run away only because we can improve the world where we end up. Getting rid of Trump seems to be the task of the world today, so anyone who has any say is obligated to say! Just saying.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @11:52AM (1 child)
Canada has its share of rightwing assholes who fly the confederate flag. Pure insanity.
If the US devolves into fascism it will have world wide consequences. I can't blame Azuma for wanting to leave, but it seems our fate is to confront the 2nd coming of the Nazi ideology.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @01:38PM
Wtf? The US has already been fascist for quite awhile buddy. A vote for democrats or republicans is a vote for fascism and 40% of the population keeps voting for it. I think 20% vote just because though so it's more like 20% of the US is fascists.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:18PM
:-) As if you aren't begging the question, "Before" what?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday September 26 2020, @10:47PM (5 children)
No more so "fuck you got mine" than anyone else fleeing a third-world country, with the caveat that I'm trying to get out *before* the dunghill hits the windmill at a good fraction of the local speed of sound.
I've seen too many friends suffer or die needlessly or just plain disappear because of what the US is like for poor people. I nearly went that way myself far too many times. The thing that clinched it for good, though, was getting out of the womens' shelter last year and being told by the transition coordinator that, at 20K a year before tax from working full time, I was "too rich for assistance." That was...absolutely stunning, and not in a good way. That, I think, marked the moment I just gave up entirely.
Look, I have a good idea of what's coming for this country and when, and it is tragic. The splash damage alone will be more than enough to take me out if I get caught in it. It's time to leave, has been time for years, but only now have i gotten close enough in space and time to have a snowball's chance in the Malebolge of pulling it off. I'm calculating on still being stuck here for another 12-14 months unless things go completely to shit, in which case I will be quite literally running across the Peace or Rainbow Bridge for asylum.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday September 26 2020, @11:34PM (4 children)
This I can understand and accept as rational.
What doesn't fit in my head is your compulsion to contribute to the polarization of the shit, it will only add to the strength of the shitstorm; the polarization is in good part the cause which drove your need to emigrate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday September 26 2020, @11:54PM (3 children)
Simple: because there is no fixing these people, so all I can do is bait them out and make them display their evil to the very last drop, in public, on full display, and then shred their sociopathic horseshit into tiny little memetic confetti for all to see.
They've long since sold their souls. I want no one who's watching to be in any doubt as to what that means, or to be naive about just how disgusting, animalistic and craven these people have become by their own willing, nay, gleeful decision to drop their human cards in the incinerator.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday September 27 2020, @12:23AM (2 children)
That won't do any good, just make the more radicalized and drag others into the same pit. At the very best, you're wasting your time. At the worst, you're pushing a physical confrontation sooner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 27 2020, @01:39AM (1 child)
Are we talking about the same thing here? I think something got lost in there somewhere.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday September 27 2020, @01:53AM
At least I'm talking about your
(attacking them at personal level, not their nonsense).
What are you talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @03:36PM (4 children)
Trump's "base" have known of him for a very long time. We find him just as annoying as you do. We just have thicker skin. Not "triggered". We care what he does, not what he says or tweets. Like many have commented here, he should just STFU. But he's a talker, which just annoys the triggered-annoyed even more.
It's not that people love Trump; it's that we hate the hypocritical swamp that govt. and politics have become, and we're willing to vote for a Trump before we vote for another career politician / clever-mouth verbal wit like a Reagan or Clinton.
Obama was actually pretty cool on all fronts. I'd vote for him again any day.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @05:35PM (2 children)
So you choose literal fascism over a career politician? Methinks your head is screwed on backwards.
If Trump was just an incompetent idiot and we weren't in the middle of a pandemic I wouldn't mind your stance too much. But we are in a pandemic, we do need effective leadership, and Trump is actively destroying our society while stealing tax payer money. Your rebellious attitude does not match reality, well unless you actualy believe all the lies Trump and Fox Newz tell you. Then you're just a fool.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @01:33AM (1 child)
You literally don't literally know what literally fascist literally means. And by so badly misusing and bastardizing the term, you do great dishonor to those who suffered under Hitler, Mussolini, Hirohito, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Gaddafi, NK's Kims, and lots more.
As I wrote above, I don't get my medical advice from any politician.
We are in a pandemic and we all know that. So stop getting your advice from politicians.
Effing moron.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @03:17AM
You know the world is laughing at idiots at you right? Not my fault you're a fascist that sees fascism and thinks "good that is what is supposed to happen" and therefore you can't comprehend that your support of evil is just that. You think evil is good, therefore to you fascism is what stops you from being fascist.
It is a bunch of craziness, and now that Trump has made it clear that he is a fascist even Republicans are saying "Ok, we see what you guys were talking about."
Buy a fleshlight, it'll save us all a lot of grief.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 25 2020, @07:14PM
So do I. His policies are mostly typical terrible Republican policies, and he's continuing many of the abysmal, authoritarian policies of previous administrations (7+ wars overseas, the drug war, unconstitutional spying)
Trump is part of the swamp. Trump is the swamp on steroids. Trump appointed countless swamp monsters into his administration, such as Goldman Sachs goons like Steve Mnuchin. His tax cuts overwhelmingly benefited the mega-rich, who are also part of the swamp.
How is he draining the swamp, again? What specific policies does he support that result in the swamp being drained?
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:45PM (7 children)
Functioning humans, you say?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/midst-pandemic-blanketed-wildfire-smoke-city-berkeley-focused-banning-candy-bars [zerohedge.com]
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @10:49PM (6 children)
Feeling extra stupid today?
They are nit banning candy bars, just preventing them from being located at the register.
After that, what should Berkeley be doing about the fires? Should the politicians ban wildfires??
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 27 2020, @10:54PM (5 children)
Of course they shouldn't ban fires. They should get their lazy asses out on the line to fight the fires. They have no qualms with sending the state's prisoners out there, after all.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 29 2020, @07:40PM (4 children)
Sorry but we are a bit busy generating most of the GDP so your welfare state can be propped up.
Why don't you get off your entitled butt and come help us out as a thank you?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday September 29 2020, @09:56PM (3 children)
You can kiss my entitled ass, LOL!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 29 2020, @10:18PM (2 children)
Don't worry, I expected nothing more than your typical hatred. By the way, Republicans are overly being impacted by the fires as they are the majority in most rural areas. Your partisan hatred blinds you to compassion for your fellow citizens, even those who have your same beliefs.
Pretty well sums you up.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday September 29 2020, @11:07PM (1 child)
WTF are you even trying to say here? You appeared to start out with a claim that California contributes to my well being in some way (despite all the left-wingish agitprop that comes out of Hollyweird). In effect, I thumb my nose at you, mocking your claim. Then - WTF? Did your train of thought get derailed or something? Are you onboard Sleepy Joe's Crazy Train?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 30 2020, @07:50PM
Boomer brain can't operate outside of propaganda talking points and hate. #SAD #ManWomanPersonCameraTV