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posted by martyb on Saturday September 20 2014, @01:13PM   Printer-friendly
from the innovate-or-die dept.

Ian Bicking has confirmed that Mozilla has quietly shut down Mozilla Labs.

This development raises some interesting questions about the future of Mozilla and their products:

With Firefox's usage declining, with Firefox on Android seeing limited uptake, with Firefox not being available on iOS, with Thunderbird stagnating, with SeaMonkey remaining as irrelevant as ever, with Firefox OS suffering from poor reviews and little adoption, and now with a reduction in innovation due to the closure of Mozilla Labs, does Mozilla have any hope of remaining relevant as time goes on?

Will Mozilla be able to reignite the spark that originally allowed them to create products like Firefox and Thunderbird that were, at one time, wildly popular and innovative?

Is Mozilla still capable of innovating without Mozilla Labs, or will they slowly fade into irrelevance as the last remaining users of their products move on to other offerings from competitors?

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Tork on Sunday September 21 2014, @04:11AM

    by Tork (3914) on Sunday September 21 2014, @04:11AM (#96146)

    You are basically saying, "Bigotry is bad, but it's okay for me to engage in it." or "Intolerance is bad, unless it's something I don't like." It's all so absurd.

    "I want people to have equal rights" is absurd?

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  • (Score: 2) by khallow on Sunday September 21 2014, @08:21AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 21 2014, @08:21AM (#96205) Journal

    "I want people to have equal rights" is absurd?

    Who said that? Instead, what we have is:

    you've got it the wrong way around, hounding bigots because they are bigoted, does not make you a bigot, there are some views which are better than others, not all views are equal.

    equal rights for marriage is a better view than declaring gay marriage an abomination, you can't call me bigoted because I refuse to accept that you're a homophobe and won't accept your views when you're using those views to harass and intimidate people who are doing nothing wrong.

    '

    As the original poster stated, some views are better than others. And as a result, it is just fine to hound bigots.

    • (Score: 2) by Tork on Sunday September 21 2014, @09:05AM

      by Tork (3914) on Sunday September 21 2014, @09:05AM (#96220)
      I don't understand what it is you disagree with.
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      • (Score: 2) by khallow on Sunday September 21 2014, @11:24AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 21 2014, @11:24AM (#96252) Journal

        You asked a leading question for a statement no one made or disputed.

        • (Score: 2) by Tork on Sunday September 21 2014, @04:50PM

          by Tork (3914) on Sunday September 21 2014, @04:50PM (#96364)
          That is not true and you know it. That is where your line of reasoning is going. That's the problem with word-smithing, It still requires aubstance to back it up.
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          • (Score: 2) by khallow on Monday September 22 2014, @02:38AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 22 2014, @02:38AM (#96552) Journal

            That is not true and you know it.

            You put the following in quotes: "I want people to have equal rights" Who said that? As I noted, nobody in the thread has made that statement. So you started your contribution to this thread with false pretenses, claiming that someone somewhere merely stated an uncontroversial statement.

            In context, you're accusing an Anonymous Coward of stating the above quote was absurd. But what he actually wrote was:

            You are basically saying, "Bigotry is bad, but it's okay for me to engage in it." or "Intolerance is bad, unless it's something I don't like." It's all so absurd.

            So to summarize, you wrote a leading question based on a straw man. Now, you're indignant that somehow my accurate summary of your actions is "not true" and I "know it", belittling it as "word-smithing". Well, maybe you should have written something other than what you wrote and treat other posters' arguments fairly and without that grostesque misrepresentation. Then this "word-smithing" wouldn't be such a problem.

            • (Score: 2) by Tork on Monday September 22 2014, @03:19AM

              by Tork (3914) on Monday September 22 2014, @03:19AM (#96569)

              You put the following in quotes: "I want people to have equal rights" Who said that?

              The people he was mis-describing.

              Well, maybe you should have written something other than what you wrote and treat other posters' arguments fairly and without that grostesque misrepresentation.

              He mis-characterized the view and I corrected him and you knew that's what I was doing.

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              • (Score: 2) by khallow on Monday September 22 2014, @04:52AM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 22 2014, @04:52AM (#96602) Journal

                The people he was mis-describing.

                Maybe you ought to go back to that post and actually argue that rather than play silly rhetorical games? Please include your reasoning too for why you think that description was inaccurate. We don't automagically know what you are thinking.

                He mis-characterized the view and I corrected him and you knew that's what I was doing.

                Right, "corrected". We still don't know what was supposed to be inaccurate about the AC's characterization, especially given what chris.alex.thomas actually wrote. And I still don't know what in the world you are thinking. For example, you could just be disingenuously trolling away. Or you could have genuine psychological problems that cripple your understanding of others' viewpoints. Maybe more than one thing applies. I can't say.

                But your continued insistence on knowing better than me what I think and believe is getting rather bizarre.

                • (Score: 2) by Tork on Monday September 22 2014, @05:33AM

                  by Tork (3914) on Monday September 22 2014, @05:33AM (#96611)
                  My post was clear and you understood it the first time around. Wouldn't you prefer to quit playing dumb and return to the topic?
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