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Well if Dr. Johnny Bananas is saying it then it must be true!
White House Cites Herd-Immunity Petition Signed by Fake Experts Including ‘Dr. Johnny Bananas’
Dr. I.P. Freely, Dr. Person Fakename are also on board. (and no, none of these are a joke)
White House Cites 'Dr. Johnny Bananas' on COVID Immunity
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Now KEN and BARBIE are PERMANENTLY ADDICTED to MIND-ALTERING DRUGS ...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @06:21PM (57 children)
Did Anne Thraques also sign the petition? That could make a difference on how I view this.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday October 14 2020, @06:43PM (56 children)
Not sure...
Dr. Inje C. Tbleach signed on though.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @06:48PM (55 children)
Trump says he wants to kiss every man *and* guy: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=sSkvffPdcxw [youtube.com]
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday October 14 2020, @06:54PM (44 children)
Oh yeah, the stable genius is definitely on it this week!
‘You better vote for me’: Trump demands Puerto Ricans elect him despite island not getting presidential vote [independent.co.uk]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @07:01PM (43 children)
Does covid turn people gay? A gay president would be easily blackmailed.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:23PM (1 child)
Wouldn't that be a preference [newsbusters.org] like blackmailing the Ukrainian government to fire a prosecutor [nypost.com] or can people not help being the way they are?
(Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:36PM
Which .conf file does it go in? And is it in ~ or buried somewhere in ~/.local or ~/.config?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 4, Funny) by DannyB on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:44PM (35 children)
Trump makes a bet with Putin. Trump says covid does not turn people gay, and Putin says it might.
Trump says to Putin, "if I lose the bet, I will give you a BJ".
Putin, then remarks, "but what if you win the bet, and I lose, and covid really does turn people gay? Then what do I have to do?"
Trump says to Putin, "if I win the bet, then you have to allow me to give you a BJ".
If you eat an entire cake without cutting it, you technically only had one piece.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:49PM (33 children)
All the tds people are being tricked into voting for a racist homophobe: https://i.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/bh7jl5/biden_1973_gay_federal_employees_are_security/ [reddit.com]
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday October 14 2020, @10:21PM (32 children)
I thought you guys stopped using the TDS thing, once it became obvious he really is a moron?
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @10:30PM (31 children)
I already voted and Trump wasn't the vote. Trump is just hilarious when he riles all the hubristic uberdependent pseudo intellectuals into a frenzy. Your kind is hated by like 80% of the population.
(Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Wednesday October 14 2020, @10:39PM (5 children)
Liberals don't hate, they pity. Only the profoundly stupid think that liberals hate. IIRC, there was an aristarchus submission on this? Ah, here it is! Fox News uses the word ‘hate’ much more than MSNBC or CNN [soylentnews.org].
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @10:45PM
> Liberals don't hate, they pity.
A pity the left aren't liberals. [theatlantic.com]
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @10:47PM (3 children)
Whatever you want to call them they get offended by the shape of a pastry and call the cops on you if you don't wear a mask.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @12:09AM (2 children)
I HATE you, AC!!! I hate you with a python! I hate you as much as Trump loves himself. I hate you all the way to Topeka, and back! I hate you with a pastry!! I hate what you say, I hate what you think, and I hate what you excrete!!! Hate you, AC!! We all hate you!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @01:05AM (1 child)
Go have a cup of java and calm down.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @06:16AM
I HATE your java! I am Fox News, and I know you hate me, because I am so hated, but you superior, more educated, smarter, more intelligent, less racist and more woke, people! Oh, feel my pain!!! It hurts so bad to be a deplorable!! The things we do not know! That hurts. The things we do not understand! Hurts even more! And, no one told me there was going to be math! Ouch! No wonder Republicans have to resort to all sorts of ways to screw up the election results! They could never win on their stupidity! I hate republicans! And since they are the New South, and the Neo-Confederates, I will never rest until the Gen. Sherman of our generation burns their cities, burns their crops, and burns their asses! And burns their internet access. Die, Nazis, die. Der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which, by the way, had no actual workers in it, much like Trump's Republican partei, is Tot!!
(Score: 4, Interesting) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday October 14 2020, @11:23PM (24 children)
It looks like I'm right. Once Trump is gone its going to be hard to find a single American who ever voted for him, just like George W.
That seems like a weird thing to admire in the leader of your country. I would have thought some kind of integrity, or even just basic honesty would be good things, but "owning the libs" is what you've gone for.
You're speaking for 80% of your country now? That's a promotion.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @11:42PM
At this point being an admirable politician means one who doesn't try to micromanage everyones lives. Still will never vote republican though, and definitely not democrat.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:01AM (13 children)
I can't remember an election in which we were offered such things.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:28AM (11 children)
Really?
That sounds like a terrible way to have to live.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:36AM (10 children)
Well, look at our alternatives today. Trump/Pence vs Biden/Harris. Last time it was Trump vs Hillary. Do you see any integrity anywhere in those choices? The nearest thing to integrity we've seen in decades was the Hopey-Changey guy. A lot of people kept right on hoping, until he left office. He didn't promise anything, he just offered some hope.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:47AM (3 children)
They mean in New Zealand where they are going to be playing wack a mole with lockdown for the rest of that country's existence. Until it goes bankrupt of china annexes it.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday October 15 2020, @08:47PM (2 children)
I'll think of you when I'm at the rugby on Sunday, watching the All Blacks beat Australia along with 45,000 other covid free people.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday October 26 2020, @09:17AM (1 child)
Why is that not New Zealand beating the Wallabies?
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday October 26 2020, @07:53PM
Ha! Excellent question.
I don't know, it just is, maybe.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday October 15 2020, @05:37PM (5 children)
Donald Trump Praises Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping and Kim Jong-Un Over Joe Biden: 'These People Are Sharp' [newsweek.com]
If you eat an entire cake without cutting it, you technically only had one piece.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 15 2020, @06:33PM (1 child)
Uh-huh. Maybe you missed that Sleepy Joe thinks he is running for the senate? As bad as Trump is, Biden is worse. He steps on his dick each and every time he makes an appearance - or even a virtual appearance. If Biden ever had it, he has lost it. I keep waiting to hear him echo Hillary with, "But it's my turn this time!"
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @09:19PM
Lol sleepy joe? You're a hilarious parody of everything you claim to hate.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @08:41PM
Don't think he is wrong. So what's your point? He should call every foreigner a dumbass while singing paeans to Biden?
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday October 15 2020, @08:45PM (1 child)
TMB is reduced to just saying things, and pretending it is true. You're wasting your time linking to evidence he's wrong, because he can make things up faster than you can use a search engine.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday October 16 2020, @03:35AM
The hell? Why're you getting me involved in this?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday October 15 2020, @04:48AM
Where's the demand?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:39AM (4 children)
The progs, not libs, are fucking insane. Having someone in office who's quite happy to tell them to go fuck themselves instead of playing politically correct bullshit games is quite nice, even for those of us who didn't vote for him.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @05:40AM (3 children)
You got played like a fool, your taxes will now fund one of the largest heists ever seen through the trillions in stimulus packages laundered through the stock market. Hooray for someone playing you like a fiddle, "telling it like it is" to feed you the hate you crave after decades of manipulation by corporate media.
Now those same interests are trying to strong arm the Democrats into agreeing to another corporate fire sale with minimal support for the average citizen.
But hey, play more tribal politics and roll wallow in the mud; I look forward to your friends bitching about the deficit during the next "liberal" administration.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @06:20AM
TMB was always protesting taxes, but never for the right reasons. Not too bright, Community College drop-out, like Charlie Kirk of Turning Prick America.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:09PM (1 child)
Trump's more liberal than Biden by a long shot. That's what happens when you get actual liberty most everywhere, liberal and conservative mean the same thing and progressives can only be authoritarians.
That don't mean I like Trump but putting up with him is totally worth it to keep your insane asses out of power.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @09:28PM
Keep the Confessions of a Dangerously Stupid Mind coming. I think by the election I'll have enough to publish my coffee table book "Shit Conservatives Say."
Good times!
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 15 2020, @04:09PM (3 children)
Thank. Fucking. God.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday October 16 2020, @03:39AM (2 children)
I didn't vote for Trump last time and probably won't vote for him this time but I absolutely voted for GW twice. Maybe you lot should talk to more folks who don't agree with everything you say and you won't end up believing shit that ain't true as often.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 17 2020, @10:03PM (1 child)
I thought you were a libertarian, and you voted for GW a 2nd time???
This journal has been a godsend, never have you so nakedly shown how hypocritical and stupid you are! I'm loving how badly Trump broke you fuckwads.
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday October 18 2020, @04:07AM
I wasn't a libertarian back then. Maybe one of these days age will bring you a bit of wisdom as well.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday October 26 2020, @09:13AM
> Putin, then remarks, "but what if you win the bet, ... and covid really does turn people gay?
Do you people (upmodders included) really have no reading comprehension skills? Or just the short-term memory of pondlife?
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:25AM (4 children)
No, it's the vaccination that turns you gay.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @03:26AM (3 children)
You've had the vaccine?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @06:21AM (2 children)
Runaway has always been gay, livestock is just a sideline.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @06:53AM (1 child)
Congrats, homophobe.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @08:26AM
Cows and horses, and goats, need love, too! Join the Oaf Keebler's and Ammon Bundy Man-animal Love League! Beats furries, with real fur!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:03PM (9 children)
He's got to be high on dexamethasone. That's the only reason I can think of for him acting like this. When that stuff wears off he is going to be a complete mess.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday October 14 2020, @10:46PM
I had to look up dexamethasone: found this, which would explain A LOT about Trump:
--changes in your menstrual periods....... :)
Seriously, the photo of him from the article does show a darkening of his skin-- another side effect of it. Hmmm...
Also looks like a puffy cheek?
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @09:18PM (7 children)
He has some serious 'roid rage. In hindsight, I wonder if he had it at the debate too or if that was just an upper to make it through.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday October 16 2020, @03:39AM (6 children)
It's called testosterone. You'll get some too if your balls ever drop.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 16 2020, @05:23AM (5 children)
If testosterone makes you unable to self-regulate your behavior, I'd rather keep the smooth front side than be mistaken for my backside.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday October 16 2020, @12:22PM (4 children)
Oh, you're under the mistaken assumption that men should act like whiny little bitches. No, that is not in fact the case. That's just you.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 16 2020, @11:00PM (3 children)
So you're asexual? Or a woman still in transition? I'm just trying to figure out why you're such a whiny bitch that tries to cover it with false confidence.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday October 17 2020, @10:47AM (2 children)
Sad troll is sad.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 17 2020, @05:52PM (1 child)
That wasn't trolling, just trying to make sense of your own words. Don't like confusion then learn to communicate better. I hear local community colleges offer some good courses.
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday October 18 2020, @04:09AM
You hear wrong. The only things you'll get taking humanities courses at college are indoctrination and pomposity.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @07:03PM (38 children)
What a POS traitor Trump and the GOP all are. They ignore the greatest threat to humanity, and downplay a pandemic for no seemingly sane reason. Do they just want to blame the fallout from COVID on anyone but themselves? Do they really want Americans to die? Are they idiots or more evil than that?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @07:06PM (15 children)
Yes, Trump told us go hug a Chinese tourist or else you are racist.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:06PM (14 children)
Being a trollish idiot does not help your cause, whatever the fuck that is. Seems to be whatever Trump tells you it is, no matter how it violates your morals or beliefs. Keep the troll train rolling *pukes*
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:09PM
If it wasn't for trump even more of you idiots that trust the government run healthcare system would be dead.
Everyone who understands that's going is fine either way.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:38PM (12 children)
It kinda does. Showing someone spouting bloody stupid nonsense as the idiot that they are is worth more than any carefully thought out rebuttal.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:54PM (11 children)
Not quite because you presume other people aren't teetering on the edge of such bullshit propaganda. Hell, just a few months ago you sounded much like the AC with your hoax / cures / anti-mask rhetoric. Such nonsense is mostly fine if there are some good rebuttals, otherwise it can serve to reinforce the dangerously ignorant propaganda.
We are seeing right now the danger of misinformation. Censorship is not a great solution as over-arching legislation, but then again allowing thousands of bots and astro-turfing social media accounts is also bad. Hopefully we are able to regulate internet activity for maximum freedom, which yes includes giving people the boot if they violate platform rules. 1st Amendment protects us from the government, it does not guarantee us anything beyond the right to speak our minds and it does not guarantee us a platform for our speech.
Forcing platforms to host all speech will be terrible, but regulating ISPs/hosting providers that are the backbone of basic internet service should be regulated to not lock out legal activity. To head off your outraged rebuttal remember these wise words "don't like it? build your own!" If that was good enough for you not long ago it should be good enough today.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @10:13PM (2 children)
Yea, when you are on the side of all the international corporations I'm sure that's the side of good and you aren't just parroting propaganda they paid billions of dollars to feed you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @05:56AM (1 child)
Not on their side, I'm on the side of freedom. If you want to create some anti-monopolization legislation that is fine by me, but repealing 230 protections will only create draconian systems where corporations are actually ENCOURAGED to create ridiculously restrictive filters based on AI projections.
I think the best anti-monopolization legislation would be to require interoperability between platforms, if something is banned on one platform then it just links to the originating source with a disclaimer if they want. True freedom of association with some basic minimums like ISP net neutrality concepts.
Thoughts?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @10:59AM
Regulation always favors centralization and monopolies. I assure you all the largest and most politically connected corporations want as much regulation as possible. Have you looked around and seen who is profiting off these lockdowns? What they fear is having to compete fairly.
In everything you say you are on their side.
(Score: 2, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:28AM
So, what flavor boots are your masters wearing today? #zukcandonowrong
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:42AM (6 children)
You assume I troll with things I don't believe. I don't. Bitchslapping idiots with the truth is much more effective and deeply satisfying.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @06:00AM (5 children)
Having your auto-respond bot handle some of your load huh? Eat too much bacon yesterday?
(Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:10PM (4 children)
See? Insane. There is no such thing as too much bacon.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 16 2020, @11:03PM (3 children)
Sounds like someone is too much of a coward to find out! baaawwwwkk bawwwk bagaaawwwkkk
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday October 17 2020, @10:48AM (2 children)
I've tried. My imperfect body fails before bacon stops being awesome.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 17 2020, @10:05PM (1 child)
Mmm ya, the self own. Ba da da da daaaaaa I'm lovin' it!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday October 18 2020, @04:09AM
Dude, I'm plenty awesome but I will never be as awesome as bacon. Thinking that would be absurd levels of hubris.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:12PM (18 children)
Greatest threat to humanity? If the death rate starts out "0." and ends in "%", it is not the greatest threat to humanity. You are a hysterical idiot.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:28PM (10 children)
I agree. The GOP also lies about threats that are likely to be much deadlier such as the longer term effects of unmitigated climate change. COVID, serious as it is, does not measure up to the harm that will be caused if we don't mitigate climate change. You're correct, this isn't the deadliest lie told by the GOP.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:33PM (9 children)
Climate change happens over a span so long that nobody who doesn't Rip Van Winkle it has any excuse for dying due to it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:36PM (8 children)
Wars on climate change and the common cold. We should declare war on aging.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:40PM (6 children)
We should declare war on woke people. They're obviously of subhuman intelligence for taking an anti-nap position.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:30AM (5 children)
We've lost the War on Stupid. Maybe we'll have better luck in the War on Woke.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:43AM (2 children)
I think I'll nap through it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 15 2020, @07:49AM (1 child)
You'll miss out on a lot of fishies, but that's your call.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:11PM
Bells on the ends of the poles.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 17 2020, @12:28AM (1 child)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement [wikipedia.org]
Sorry bub, that cross burned a long time ago.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday October 17 2020, @10:50AM
Oh yall ain't even remotely the same as folks from the 60s. They wanted liberty and equality, yall screech demands for privilege and tyranny.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday October 15 2020, @04:51AM
By killing old people?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:56PM (6 children)
There already are deaths genius, and it is going to get much worse during this next decade. Anti-science people should be locked up on farms where they can do something useful that doesn't require much brain power. Don't worry, free Netflix accunts!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @11:18PM
I see what you did there.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:44AM (4 children)
Which would those be? Science demands proof, dipshit.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 16 2020, @05:19PM (3 children)
*yawn* do your own research lazy bum
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday October 16 2020, @06:55PM (2 children)
You're the one telling me I'm wrong, the burden of proof is yours.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 17 2020, @12:32AM (1 child)
No it isn't, at least according to your personal standards. I see no reason to elevate those standards up to my own when dealing with you.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday October 17 2020, @10:50AM
Up to you. Talk to you some other time then.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:03AM
Well, yes, actually. It's time to clean up the world, and give it back to the intelligent hominids.
(Score: 1, Troll) by shortscreen on Thursday October 15 2020, @01:12PM (1 child)
All this time I thought people were calling Trump a fascist dictator because they didn't like him. Turns out they wanted Trump to come to their house, put a mask on their face, and lock them in the bathroom to keep them from catching COVID. Now they are very disappointed that he didn't do that, because presumably they couldn't stop themselves from going out and catching COVID.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:12PM
Duh, they're all about government making people do things they don't want to. It underpins every last thing in their platform.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @09:24PM (9 children)
I'm less concerned with the bogus signatures. There are serious ethical issues with the declaration [gbdeclaration.org]. There are also factual issues raised, such as if it's feasible to attain herd immunity given the uncertainty about the potential for reinfection by SARS-CoV-2 [nature.com].
The essence of the declaration is that groups at high risk of death should remain isolated while many of the containment mechanisms should be greatly reduced for everyone else. The declaration specifically mentions ending remote work, for example, despite the fact that many people are more than capable of working remotely. It calls for full reopening to occur. The idea seems to be allowing the infection to rapidly spread through much of the population deemed low risk while isolating everyone else.
This is unethical. We know that a non-negligible amount of people in the low risk category will still develop serious complications. This includes longer term damage to the lungs and heart. Some of these people will be long haulers, perhaps 2% of the population, who won't be able to resume a normal life for an extended period of time following their infection. And yes, some of these low risk people will die, almost certainly at higher rates than what is observed with the seasonal flu. These people are being sacrificed to build up herd immunity that might not even be attainable naturally. They're going to be placed at significant risk for a goal that may not be achievable in the absence of a vaccine.
Sacrificing one segment of society by intentionally increasing their risk of exposure to a deadly virus to save another segment of society is unethical. This is particularly true when we have far greater confidence in our ability to produce a safe and effective vaccine than we do in naturally attaining herd immunity.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2020, @11:21PM (5 children)
Dude, this is by far NOT the first coronavirus infecting humans, nor will it be the last (unless hysterical idiots manage to extinct the humanity).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus#Infection_in_humans [wikipedia.org]
Before mindblasted by the media blitz, you likely had not even known of the things; still, you managed to survive till now despite that.
Humans, same as other species, adapt to coexist with new infections; it is the way of life, and nature does not give a flying fuck about what "isn't feasible" for some monkeybrain. Example in point: the flu.
You are free to hunker in your basement till People's Liberation Army comes knocking, but the bullshit your leaders are still trying to sell, is already stinking to high heaven.
"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 15 2020, @01:10AM (1 child)
You only need to fool most of the people at election time.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 15 2020, @04:16PM
Most? Not if you're Republican...
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday October 15 2020, @10:15PM (2 children)
"Humans, same as other species, adapt to coexist with new infections"
Biological evolution does this with mass death. The more death, the faster the adaptation.
We'd like to accomplish coexistence without that much grief.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday October 16 2020, @03:41AM (1 child)
Then stop making it take longer to accomplish. The more strains of the virus you allow to evolve by dragging things out, the longer it's going to take and the more people are going to die.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday October 16 2020, @12:23PM
The humans evolve my mass death.
The viruses evolve by outcompeting other strains of virus.
It tends to be the strains that do not kill their humans that survive better,
because their humans remain infectious for longer.
-- hendrik
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:05AM (2 children)
Opinion noted.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Thursday October 15 2020, @01:09PM (1 child)
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Was Spock wrong?
(Score: 2, Redundant) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 15 2020, @02:16PM
Living it from an individual perspective is the act of a hero, forcing it on others along with your definition of "needs" is the act of a villain.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.