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Journal by quietus

I am convinced territorial disputes, violations of international law and China’s ambitions for global supremacy can only be approached multilaterally.

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What will be crucial, regardless of the outcome of the [Wednesday AEDT] US presidential election, is whether the West can be more unified in its dealings with Beijing.

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We have always had our tiffs across the Atlantic. That won’t change. What’s key is that we get the big stuff right. China is big stuff."

So spoke Germany's Defence Minister, Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer in an interview with the Sydney Morning Herald.

In a historical first, Germany is going to link up with a non-NATO member, Australia, to patrol the Indo-Pacific: German naval officers will be embedded within the Australian Navy, a German frigate is also sent to make a mark.

This news means that 5 Western nations will now be patrolling the Indo-Pacific: the United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, Germany and Canada.

Along the way, the German Defence Minister also confirmed that Huawei would be excluded from German 5G telco networks.

"China is a country that understands very well the political dimension of IT networks and data flows. I am sure our counterparts in Beijing understand that we Europeans can only operate technology we trust."

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Tuesday November 03 2020, @06:33PM (12 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 03 2020, @06:33PM (#1072529) Journal

    <no-sarcasm>
    We need to seriously pay close attention to China. They are more organized than the US. They have a plan. And I don't think their plan is in our best interest.
    </no-sarcasm>

    China could cut off our supply of MAGA hats!

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    While Republicans can get over Trump's sexual assaults, affairs, and vulgarity; they cannot get over Obama being black.
    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 03 2020, @07:25PM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 03 2020, @07:25PM (#1072547)

      China is no threat. This posturing is just marketing for the coming war, to make it more palatable to the public. The entirety of Asia is surrounded by US military bases and aligned countries. All of these countries are pushing hostile anti-china and anti-russian rhetoric.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 03 2020, @07:43PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 03 2020, @07:43PM (#1072554)

        Loooool

        China is trying to claim soveriegnty over international waters and has gotten big into the economic imperialism game. So you an idiot or a shill?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 03 2020, @09:53PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 03 2020, @09:53PM (#1072620)

          I hope you're first in line to volunteer your children to die fighting the "red menace". I'll keep opposing war on the simple moral grounds of murder being bad.

          • (Score: 2) by quietus on Wednesday November 04 2020, @08:54AM

            by quietus (6328) on Wednesday November 04 2020, @08:54AM (#1072817) Journal

            Do you also oppose concentration camps on moral grounds? If the United States had stood by during WWII, you think that at one time or another, the US itself would have faced invasion?

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Wednesday November 04 2020, @11:22AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 04 2020, @11:22AM (#1072847) Journal
            Are you opposing war? For a glaring historical example, appeasing Hitler was doing on multiple occasions for the alleged purpose of preventing war. But it didn't. Instead, it just started a world war on Hitler (and several other dictatorships') terms. A huge part of the reason the world is so free and peaceful now is because the parties who started the Second World War worked at cross-purposes (particularly, Nazi Germany and the USSR ended up at each other's throats).
      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 03 2020, @08:11PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 03 2020, @08:11PM (#1072564)

        Can't find the -1 Just Plain Stupid moderation.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 03 2020, @10:59PM (3 children)

          No shit. The three large nuclear powers do not have actual hot wars with each other for a very good reason.

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          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
          • (Score: 2) by quietus on Wednesday November 04 2020, @12:21PM (2 children)

            by quietus (6328) on Wednesday November 04 2020, @12:21PM (#1072856) Journal

            To quote Gandhi (from memory): the main thing that history learns is that what never happened before, will happen.

            Also, MacArthur, Korean War?

            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday November 04 2020, @03:40PM (1 child)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 04 2020, @03:40PM (#1072893) Journal

              Also, MacArthur, Korean War?

              China's first nuclear test happened in 1964.

              • (Score: 2) by quietus on Thursday November 05 2020, @09:57AM

                by quietus (6328) on Thursday November 05 2020, @09:57AM (#1073356) Journal

                The USSR in 1949 -- it's hard to imagine Stalin would have just stood by with nuclear weapons being used so close to the Russian border.

      • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Wednesday November 04 2020, @02:27AM

        by shortscreen (2252) on Wednesday November 04 2020, @02:27AM (#1072742) Journal

        China is a threat to the west in the same way that the little piggy who built his house out of brick was a threat to the ones that didn't.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 03 2020, @10:55PM

      Okay, now that one was funny.

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      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
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