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Self-Victimhood Is A Personality Type, Researchers Find:
[...] A new paper in the scientific journal Personality and Individual Differences posits a Tendency for Interpersonal Victimhood (TIV), an archetype defined by several truly toxic traits: a pathological need for recognition, a difficulty empathizing with others, feelings of moral superiority, and, importantly, a thirst for vengeance.
[...] In one of this paper's experiments, for instance, a computer split a pot of money between itself and a human participant; this person was led to believe the computer was also a human participant. Sometimes the pot was split unevenly, and the human participant was given a chance to take vengeance by reducing the computer's pot without enriching his own. Researchers discovered that participants classified as having higher TIV scores were "strongly associated with behavioral revenge" in this scenario.
TIV was also "associated with an increased experience of negative emotions, and entitlement to immoral behavior."
[...] Writing in Scientific American, psychologist Scott Barry Kaufman notes that "the researchers do not equate experiencing trauma and victimization with possessing the victimhood mindset. They point out that a victimhood mindset can develop without experiencing severe trauma or victimization."
Kaufman continues:
If socialization processes can instill in individuals a victimhood mindset, then surely the very same processes can instill in people a personal growth mindset. What if we all learned at a young age that our traumas don't have to define us? That it's possible to have experienced a trauma and for victimhood to not form the core of our identity? That it's even possible to grow from trauma, to become a better person, to use the experiences we've had in our lives toward working to instill hope and possibility to others who were in a similar situation? What if we all learned that it's possible to have healthy pride for an in-group without having out-group hate? That if you expect kindness from others, it pays to be kind yourself? That no one is entitled to anything, but we all are worthy of being treated as human?
Encouraging people not to be defined by their traumas—real or imagined—seems like solid advice. But when the traumatized person resents challenges to his victimhood status and wants to punish those who want to take it away from him, getting that advice across just might be a challenge.
Journal Reference:
Rahav Gabay, Boaz Hameiri, TammyRubel-Lifschitz. The tendency for interpersonal victimhood: The personality construct and its consequences, [link] Personality and Individual Differences (DOI: 10.1016/j.paid.2020.110134)
(Score: 2, Troll) by Fuck You Niggers 2 on Monday December 14 2020, @03:46AM (41 children)
Republican
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @04:51AM
Yep they sure were for the last 4 years playing victim. I mean BLM and Antifa practily define republicans. How could you see it any other way.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Mykl on Monday December 14 2020, @05:24AM (27 children)
While Trump fits this pretty well (though "Sociopath" is a much better fit for him), the described self-victimhood behavior seems much more suited to the 'woke' crowd to me.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by krishnoid on Monday December 14 2020, @05:32AM (10 children)
I thought his behavior was pretty much nailed (at least primarily) as "narcissistic". Sociopaths [reddit.com] are kind of a different animal.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @06:46AM (8 children)
The last non-narcissist president was probably Eisenhower. That was a long time ago.
Just running in the primary for any major office probably means a person is a narcissist. Losing the democrat primary for Wyoming's governor, or the republican primary for Hawaii's senator, is enough evidence of being a narcissist.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @02:10PM (2 children)
I've long said it: anybody who want's power probably shouldn't have it. At least with monarchy you have a chance of getting a good king
(Score: 3, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Monday December 14 2020, @08:59PM (1 child)
Even a quick look at the history of Europe will show you that the results of getting a bad king can be catastrophe.
The example I usually think of is James VI & I [wikipedia.org] of England and Scotland. He was the first of the Stuart kings of Britain, the worst of the British dynasties.
James I even wrote of the divine right of kings [wikipedia.org] right in the middle of the enlightenment, like the inbred idiot he was.
His son was even stupider, and caused a series of nasty civil wars that may have killed 20% of his subjects, then his head was removed, which was best for everyone really.
His great-grandson was such an idiot that he was deposed and sent into exile.
On the whole, kings are a crapshoot and we're better of with them in figurehead positions, if at all.
(Score: 1) by Socrastotle on Tuesday December 15 2020, @06:34AM
You have the benefit of seeing millennia of kings worldwide. For our democracy, how many years are you looking at? Our democracy of today scarcely resembles that of yesteryear. It was hardly 100 years ago that women's suffrage was passed. And if one wants to be especially pedantic it's been less than 60 years since the 24th amendment was passed and expanded - ending all poll taxes. I'm not implying anything about those decisions other than that as you work to expand the number of people voting, the game changes from one of persuading the privileged few into persuading the masses. And this is going to result in different outcomes.
So don't look merely at today but over the next 100 years. Where do you see our democracy headed? Will we even last that long? Let alone 1000 years.
One problem we face in democracy is that it creates an incentive for politicians to appeal to, a cynic might say prey upon, the worst of us: our prejudices, our greed, our emotions, our irrationality. A politician who confirms our prejudices, who promises state gifts (even if nationally destructive) to sate our greed, who appeals to our emotions and exploits our irrationality - that person is going to be elected, and likely with accolades. A politician who speaks plainly and advocates for the decisions which may be best for the nation but not necessarily pleasant in the interim? He'll find himself out of office in short order, and that's only if by some miracle he manages to get there in the first place.
Minority controlled systems risk the imposition of incompetent leaders, but the major benefit they have is that there exists a motivation for these leaders to actually try to do what they see is right. Check out Meditations [mit.edu] by Marcus Aurelius sometime. Those were the private writings, not intended for publication, of a man who was the most powerful and most wealthy individual on the face of the Earth. The emphasis there being that in his private writings he was always striving for justness, humility, and ever striving to attain greater wisdom. That is the sort of leadership we will never see in a democracy simply because it precludes the personality type that would strive (and be capable of) compelling the masses on a tremendous scale. Of course the succession following Marcus Aurelius is also a perfect example of the argument against minority controlled systems.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @04:00PM (4 children)
Disagree: Ford, Carter, Reagan, GHW Bush, and Obama seem unlikely to be either sociopaths or narcissists. And Biden, though he isn't the President yet. Probably not GW Bush, either. Still, that's a lot worse than in the general ppopulation .
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @07:00PM
Yes, notice that one doesn't need to be mentally aberrant to be a war criminal, they just need to be fine with murdering darkies for oil.
(Score: 3, Informative) by khallow on Monday December 14 2020, @09:11PM (1 child)
*Sigh* [freebeacon.com]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by krishnoid on Tuesday December 15 2020, @12:25AM
I could see that. But I can also imagine Obama didn't want to get involved in Syria considering we *still* haven't withdrawn fully from Iraq. Between that and lessons from the Vietnam war ... maybe he was just being prudent?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 15 2020, @06:54AM
I *might* agree with Carter, but I suspect that's probably due to my own ignorance. The others? "Come on, man." The issue is that most of us have a rather distorted view of what narcissism is - expecting to see it as somebody clearly and unflatteringly obsessed with themselves. In practice it's much more subtle. Many narcissists are extremely charismatic, and also give off an appearance of extreme confidence and great leadership. And our brains are attracted to this. We tend to subconsciously value confidence more than expertise. And so whoever can offer the greatest appearance of confidence tends to do well. And guess who that is? It's the narcissists. One of my favorite quotes hits on this, "The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt." That was stated in 1933 by Betrand Russell.
Anyhow, do a quick search for npd and charisma [duckduckgo.com] and you'll get a huge number of relevant hits - including discussion of why we keep electing narcissists.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @10:00PM
There's been some serious discussion that NPD and ASPD may be manifestations of the same condition. Psychopathy aligns with the clinical diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Sociopathy (factor 2 psychopathy) with Anti-social Personality Disorder. The creation and promotion of a false self does appear to be unique to NPD but is comparable by motive to the gaining and abuse of trust observed in the other conditions.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 14 2020, @07:19AM (10 children)
Bingo.
The old accepted name for this crap was "martyr complex". The most common form, easily found in every neighborhood, were the women who loudly sacrificed everything for their ungrateful offspring, and often times for their ungrateful spouses.
Today, the complex has been refined through identity politics, and the Dems are getting great mileage from it.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @07:56AM (9 children)
Projection as usual. Rs are the champions of identity politics, and while all politics involves a fair amount of that you idiots are so triggered by people wanting civil rights and equality that you think it is merely some political game. You truly are a vile person, sadly your victim complex keeps you from understanding the pain your "side" inflicts upon others..
(Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 14 2020, @08:09AM (5 children)
I guess you've got to spin it some way.
Which party sucks up to every minority, telling them "You've been SOOOOO mistreated, you need us to defend you!" Women, Blacks, gays, trannies, whoever, wherever, you have to segregate them and isolate them from everyone else.
SJWs are in the business of promoting identity politics, no matter how you spin things over there in LA-LA-Land.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @03:05PM (1 child)
You forgot about those poor victimized white working class folks that the other party does the EXACT same thing with.
Note: I'm not disputing your point, just saying, it's not a behavior the left has a monopoly on.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @05:07PM
It's different for them - they're taking their country back. It's theirs you see, wrongly stolen by Obama.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Monday December 14 2020, @10:18PM (2 children)
OK. Technically, women are not a minority.
Unless you redefine "minority" to mean "an oppressed group."
Making this new definition, the claim becomes
"Oppressed groups are oppressed."
I can hardly object to this meaning.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 14 2020, @10:36PM (1 child)
Gotta define "oppression" then.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Tuesday December 15 2020, @02:12PM
Guess so.
(Score: 2) by Tokolosh on Monday December 14 2020, @03:05PM (1 child)
I think we found one here.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @03:31PM
Because you're an idiot :-)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday December 14 2020, @04:35PM
Observe the Journal of the biggest victim on this site. [soylentnews.org]
Is it possible to find a single entry that ISN'T about what a huge victim he is?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @07:58AM (4 children)
It does fit them, but it also fits the people who talk about a 'war on Christmas,' have Christian persecution complexes in countries where a super-majority are Christian, and become insanely triggered at people kneeling during the anthem.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 14 2020, @08:10AM (3 children)
Which countries, precisely, have a "super-majority" of Christians?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @03:07PM (1 child)
65% of Americans are Christian.
InB4 'no true Christian' fallacy...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 14 2020, @08:06PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States#Statistics [wikipedia.org]
Depends on how you define "supermajority" I guess.
Thankfully, with all the Latin American immigrants, that percentage is likely to increase. It could be headed back to 80% soon!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Pino P on Monday December 14 2020, @05:36PM
Vatican 🥁
More seriously, consider neighboring Italy. The Eurobarometer survey in 2018 showed that 85.6% of its population is Christian: 78.9% Catholic, 4.6% orthodox Christians, 0.6% Protestants, 1.5% other Christians.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @05:47AM
Do not subscribe to SN until they ban the parent poster. He should be immediately and permanently banned.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @05:55AM
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @06:26AM
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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @06:27AM
FUCK YOU SPAMMER!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @06:34AM
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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @06:44AM
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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @06:50AM
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(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @07:09AM
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(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @07:22AM
RACIST SHITSTAIN
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @07:31AM (1 child)
The smoke of this racist shitweasel burning https://soylentnews.org/~Fuck+You+Niggers+2/ [soylentnews.org] yes that disgusting racist stalker flesh stinks as martyb tries to downmod hide the truth like he did to apk.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @08:40AM
It's obvious what triggered your outburst. Your personality type just got identified.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2020, @07:46AM
Please be kind and respectful to all your human brothers and sisters.
Sincerely,
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