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It's finally made it to the mainstream media this side of the pond, Critical Race Theory gets a mention in a Guardian article about a book highly critical of former President Trump.
Shortly before the deadly attack on the US Capitol on 6 January, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Gen Mark Milley, told aides the US was facing a “Reichstag moment” because Donald Trump was preaching “the gospel of the Führer”, according to an eagerly awaited book about Trump’s last year in office.
The book is called I Alone Can Fix This and is by Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker.
Milley’s invocation of Germany under the Third Reich follows a report in another book, Frankly, We Did Win This Election, by Michael C Bender, that Trump told his chief of staff, John Kelly, “Hitler did a lot of good things”.
Of course, Trump denies having made the remark.
This Milley chap seems to have his head screwed on the right way. It goes on:
Leonnig and Rucker report that Milley spoke to an “old friend”, who warned the general that Trump and his allies were trying to “overturn the government” in response to Joe Biden’s election victory, which Trump falsely maintains was the result of electoral fraud.
Milley refers to the Trump supporters as "Brownshirts" who were paramilitary supporters of Hitler in 1930s Germany, of course.
Trump’s supporters attacked Congress on 6 January, the day the electoral college results were certified . Five people died.
Leonnig and Rucker report that Milley called the attackers “Nazis” and, in reference to two far-right groups, said “they’re boogaloo boys, they’re Proud Boys”.
“These are the same people we fought in [the second world war],” he reportedly said.
And now for the CRT part:
According to New York magazine, the authors also report that Milley, who made headlines and stoked rightwing ire last month by defending teaching about historic racism in army educational establishments, met former first lady Michelle Obama at the Capitol on 20 January, the day Biden was inaugurated.
And here's the link.
Milley thinks that learning from history is a good idea:
"I do think it's important, actually, for those of us in uniform to be open-minded and be widely read," Milley said. "And it is important that we train and we understand.
"I want to understand white rage, and I'm white," he continued in reference to the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol by supporters of then-President Donald Trump. "And I want to understand it.
"I've read Karl Marx. I've read Lenin. That doesn't make me a communist," he added. "What is wrong with understanding, having some situational understanding about the country for which we are here to defend? And I personally find it offensive that we are accusing the United States military, our general officers, our commissioned, our noncommissioned officers, of being 'woke.'"
Critical Race Theory, hated by white supremacists, Neo-Nazis and Trump supporters. How very interesting! Thanks Aristarchus for bringing it to my attention.
That's the blue touchpaper lit. I shall retire to a safe distance.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 15 2021, @08:55PM (9 children)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house [theguardian.com]
As fake as the Mueller report I'm sure! I suspect deep down even conservatives knew this was true which is why they doubled down on blind loyalty. Can't let those pesky demons sow doubt!/s
I would have submitted as a story for the homepage, but such articles rarely get accepted.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Thursday July 15 2021, @08:56PM (2 children)
Indeed. I was thinking about putting that one up here too.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anti-aristarchus on Thursday July 15 2021, @09:04PM
CRT is on the move! And in the mean time, https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremlin-leak-appears-to-confirm-existence-of-trump-kompromat [thedailybeast.com]
Turns out there really is a pee-pee tape. Trump was trying to get a Golden Tower in Russia.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday July 15 2021, @10:59PM
Maybe take a listen to the author [youtube.com] before giving too much credence... the guy is just a bit hyper
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Thursday July 15 2021, @10:46PM (5 children)
Luke Harding...
That Luke Harding? [salon.com]
Most amusing
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 15 2021, @11:25PM (4 children)
Yoy always pop up to defend trump and republicans in a sideways fashion. You run a good troll game I'll give you that much.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Friday July 16 2021, @12:13AM (3 children)
I'm sorry.. You got something against the truth?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @01:24AM (2 children)
Not at all and I actually appreciated your background info on the author. Doesn't change your agent of chaos behavior.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @01:19AM
"Agent of chaos"
You fascists are fucking hilarious.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday July 18 2021, @08:18PM
:-) Well, you and Agent 99 stay right on it then
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Thursday July 15 2021, @09:03PM (3 children)
I think those books will confirm things that many already believed were true just by observation. I've already read quite a few choice bits from these books that are in the news.
Half the population has gone insane. People don't get vaccinated for political reasons, not out of any actual medical concern. (Just look at the colors on a map of vaccination rates.) Trump will be back in mid August. Mike Lindell has the evidence, and SCOTUS will overturn the 2020 election. And they have the gall to call anyone else deranged,, given their deranged dear leader. Signs of a changing climate are everywhere. Large parts of the US Southwest may become uninhabitable without power and water. Texas didn't think they would get 20-below freezes. Record high temps in the arctic. It will get worse.
White supremacists, Neo-Nazis and Trump supporters (but I'm being redundant) wish CRT would go away and everyone would move on to flat screens.
In the R's spirit of grown adults no longer being able to tell fantasy from reality, I'll leave you with a famous quote from a person whose words will go down in American history:
Meesa thinks a weesa should give the chancellor emergency powers. -- Jar Jar Binks
Young people won't believe you if you say you used to get Netflix by US Postal Mail.
(Score: 2) by Anti-aristarchus on Thursday July 15 2021, @09:08PM (2 children)
Well played! Took me a second to figure out why Trumpies would want everyone to have flat screens.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday July 16 2021, @02:12PM (1 child)
Thanks. My favorite was the last bit using a Jar Jar Binks quote in reference to grown adults who can't tell fantasy from reality.
Young people won't believe you if you say you used to get Netflix by US Postal Mail.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @07:52PM
I'm constantly amazed by how these sorts of stories trigger all sorts of anonymous Alt-Wrong types who come creeping out of the woodwork either to insult and threaten or to argue around in circles with confused jumbles of dissonant rhetoric and history salad. They're so energetic and persistent too.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 15 2021, @10:26PM (43 children)
No but if he'd understood it, it would have made him an anti-communist.
No, they also promote "racial consciousness". Two sides, same coin.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 15 2021, @11:58PM (40 children)
Translation: I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but it sounds good, and it supports the political agenda I am peddling.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @12:57AM (39 children)
No, you don't. [thelibertarianrepublic.com]
It only seems odd to people too stupid to understand that National Socialists are socialists.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 16 2021, @01:11AM (6 children)
Yeah, and WHY don't people get that the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea is democratic? And why don't people get that compassionate conservatism really is compassionate? It's right there in the name! No one EVER named something deceitfully, right?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @01:46AM (4 children)
Psychopaths do it all the time, like Marx branding slavery to the state as "freedom" or CRT activists claiming to be "anti-racist".
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 16 2021, @03:11AM (3 children)
You seem to have a bug up your ass about something. And also seem not to know a goddamn thing you're talking about. They make medicine for this I'm told.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @12:09PM (2 children)
"lived experience" [twitter.com] is narcissism - I'll stick with empiricism thanks.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @11:18PM (1 child)
What's 'empiricism'? Go back to school and try to pay attention this time.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @05:52PM
Did they teach about reductive false equivalence at your school or do you consider natural science and the vacuous solipsism of human "science" to be equivalent?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @03:29AM
Agreed. And the Rational Wiki is the epitome of rationality. Fervently obsessing over intersectional identity politics makes Atheism Plus™ better than regular atheism.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @01:26AM (31 children)
I love when people say the Nazis were socialists. Lets you know how ignorant they really are.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @01:43AM
You're a Nazi. Deal with it! [independent.co.uk]
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @05:32AM (24 children)
Today you learned. [wikipedia.org] That's known as the 25 points and laid out the political foundation for the Nazi party.
- We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to nourish the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) must be excluded from the Reich.
- The first obligation of every citizen must be to productively work mentally or physically. The activity of individual may not clash with the interests of the whole, but must proceed within the framework of the whole for the benefit for the general good.
- We demand abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
- We demand nationalization of all businesses which have been up to the present formed into companies (trusts).
- We demand that the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.
- We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
- We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
- We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.
- We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.
And so on. Of course it seems many Americans today seem to think socialism means the government gives you lots of money and you don't work, and somehow society keeps moving on pretty much the same as always, but that's called delusionalism - not socialism. The Nazi party was hardcore socialist. However, they were also anti-communist, which is where the contradictions come into play. Because socialism is generally scene through the lens as a liminal phase towards communism. And indeed I suspect the main reason there was racist more than anything. The Nazis wanted to genocide the Slavs. The Slavs also happened to be disproportionately congregated into the USSR. Trying to declare people worthless rats that need to be exterminated, while also striving to mimic their government - well that doesn't work so well for the narrative.
(Score: 3, Informative) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @12:01PM (23 children)
Not on this planet they weren't. They were fascist [wikipedia.org].
But you knew that anyway, didn't you?
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @02:12PM (13 children)
We are gradually redefining fascism was we tread down the exact same path as fascists of the past did. This [wikipedia.org] is the fascist manifesto, which was declared the official position of Mussolini's fascist party, they very source of the word fascism. Here are some key values from it:
And much more. Fascism itself derives from fascio which means something like a bundle or sheath. The idea is that alone people are weak and isolated, yet together they are strong and unbreakable. The word itself did not have any meaning (in the political sense) before the above. This is obviously not on the "far right of the traditional left-right spectrum"?
In an effort to demonize and otherize all of these awful events throughout history we often miss the countless valuable lessons they have to offer. Fascism in particular has nothing to do with ideology, left or right. The reason the fascists were relegated to little more than becoming a political pejorative (in dozens of languages no less) is not because of what they believed in, which for the most part was generally good stuff, but because of the means and methods they used to try to enact such ideology. They believed the ends justified the means.
The problem with Machivalienism is that the grand ends we imagine rarely, if ever, come to pass. Yet the awful deeds on the way there, done in the name of some grand cause, are what we all live through. Suffice to say that 100 years from now people are not going to be looking back on the 2020s rejoicing at "Yeah! This is the moment Americans realized that the true cure to racism was to become racist, but against the people who were historically the racists." That, if you have not yet realized it, is the fundamental underpinning of CRT - that the cure to racism is racism. And it's about as dumb as the original version was.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @02:51PM (11 children)
I wondered when the Fascist Manifesto parrot was going to appear.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @03:04PM (10 children)
Yes, quite inconvenient to the narrative isn't it?
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @03:11PM (9 children)
It's a diversion, right enough but it's a very confused and disingenuous argument.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @03:45PM (8 children)
Seems you are confused, Mussolini was a Marxist and fascism originated in the Italian anarcho-syndicalist movement.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @03:55PM (7 children)
So Mussolini started out a Marxist and ended up a fascist going all the way across the political spectrum? It seems like dictatorship was his thing, which ever end it was going to be at.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @04:34PM (6 children)
Fascism didn't originate on the right.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @04:56PM (5 children)
It certainly ended up there, and so it continues to be to this day.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @05:19PM (4 children)
Right, because Trump was like Hitler 2.0, right? ;-)
Fascism is most clearly identified with how the powers that be treat those that they disagree with. Had the fascists simply remained a normal political party nobody would know the word fascist today except for historians in a way similar to how an American might be familiar with the terms federalist, whig, etc but have little to no understanding beyond the fact that they were political ideologies/parties of the past.
The reason the fascists would go down in history is because they moved towards extreme intolerance, violence, censorship, suppression, and just generally trying to destroy the lives of everybody who disagreed with them. About the time you're trying to hurt people because of them having the wrong political opinion, you should know that you're well on your way towards fascism.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @06:49PM (3 children)
You are Vicky Pollard [youtube.com] and I claim my £5.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @03:01PM (2 children)
You refuse to engage in any debate, because you realize your own worldview is not only unsupported by data but directly contradicted by such. So you resort to ad hominem and cling to those who will affirm your sad biases, like a lost puppy desperately seeking affection.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Saturday July 17 2021, @06:32PM
...in a battle of wits with an unarmed anonymous coward who is desperately trying to argue that up is down and left is right.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 2) by turgid on Saturday July 17 2021, @06:34PM
So you keep posting ignorant, confused and bigoted drivel as an anonymous coward.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anti-aristarchus on Friday July 16 2021, @08:35PM
Actually, the Fasces [wikipedia.org] was a bundle of rods around the handle of an axe. You can see a lot of examples in American art and architecture, especially in the District of Columbia, for example, the chair Lincoln is sitting in, inside his memorial, and flanking the flag in the House of Representatives. It represented the power of the Roman people to punish, and was carried by lictors.
The main function, in relation to modern fascism, however, is when the fasces were handed over to a single authority, one whose word was law, a dictator, in times of national emergency. (Think invading Celts, or Hannibal.) This is the modern connection to authoritarianism.
Amazing thing about the Romans, this worked a couple times. Emergency, hand over supreme executive power to a dictator, and after the crisis is over, he gives it back. Usually, as in the Jar-jar Binks example above, once you hand over absolute power, you never see it again.
Americans don't have to worry, because the Donald could not hold on to a fasces, (or a glass of water), and he probably would try to play golf with it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @02:51PM (8 children)
What was Fabian Socialist and co-founder of the institutionally antisemitic UK Labour party, [independent.co.uk] George Bernard Shaw? [jewishpress.com] Fairly certain he was an anti-capitalist, socialist eugenicist - just like Hitler.
Which perfectly describes the aspirations of modern left.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @03:56PM (7 children)
Except it doesn't. So there.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @04:32PM (5 children)
Really? [chicagotribune.com] Viewing the world through a dialectical lens of oppressor and oppressed always leads to reprehensible outcomes. [wikipedia.org]
If only the woke would actually "WAKE UP!" [twitter.com]
* Note Tatchell links to the New Statesman which (like the Economist) was founded by the Fabians. A symptom of poor education along with his "not real socialism" claim.
Leftism has always been a complete sociopath enabling shitshow. Socialists should be as unwelcome in public institutions and center left political parties as Nazism. That it is not suggests there's still lessons to learn but at what cost? What will the death tally be this time?
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @04:52PM (4 children)
Keep it up, you're doing a grand job...
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @05:52PM (3 children)
Not as good as this guy [timesofisrael.com] eh? Only socialists can be publicly owned like that!
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @06:56PM (2 children)
I don't know. You tell me. [hopenothate.org.uk]
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @07:29PM (1 child)
Tell you what? That the far-right and the far-left are a bunch of psychopaths? If we widen child abuse to include psychological and emotional abuse, [medcircle.com] CRT praxis ticks many of the boxes. As does the defense of it, "It isn't real CRT", "you don't understand it", "we aren't teaching it", "we'll defend the abusers". [newsweek.com]
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @07:46PM
Triggered, snowflake? I notice you post anonymously. And your goalposts are on wheels. Apart from that...
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @05:37PM
The above comment came during a debate [forbes.com] between a couple of guys on Twitter. What makes it interesting is who the two guys were. One was Brian Armstrong, the head of Coinbase. The other is Dick Costolo. Costolo was not only the head of Twitter but remains a major political player in Silicon Valley, and one of the loudest advocates for things like CRT. He sits on the board of companies including Patreon while also being a major player in intentional venture capital.
When a no-name says something like this, you laugh. When an incredibly well connected and influential man worth hundreds of millions of dollars says it, you might want to consider what's happening. You have serious players making genuine death threats against people for having the wrong opinion. Can you even imagine the media response if somebody equally influential on the right did anything even remotely like this? Welcome to fascism.
(Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Friday July 16 2021, @03:41PM (4 children)
The 2nd best is when they say the Democrats were that party of slavery as they are waving Confederate flags around.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @04:00PM (3 children)
There's so much stupid in this world. By the way, the fortune at the bottom of this page just now is "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person."
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @05:47PM (2 children)
And of course you are the brilliant individual setting on high above it all. Dunning Kruger Effect [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @06:45PM
Go and get some wits.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @10:03PM
No, it just seems like it considering how far you have to look up.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @12:36AM (1 child)
the republican hate machine tried to overload a previously existing function. the stated goal was to have an umbrella term for whatever they wanted the rank-and-file to get emotional about, so as to stop clear thinking and rational engagement.
but namespace collision is a bitch.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @03:27AM
but namespace collision is a bitch.
Especially in the Tolkien Ring, eh?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @05:20AM (9 children)
"Radical Islamic terrorism", hated by white supremacists, Neo-Nazis and Trump supporters. Might we now say Allahu Akhbar brother? Here [youtube.com] is your new favorite song!
Trying to define your worldview by what other people dislike is about as logical as I'd expect from somebody who fails to see CRT for what it is. You would have made an excellent Nazi.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @07:28AM (8 children)
I doubt it. There's too much wrong with me. They'd probably have sent me to the gas chamber.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @02:20PM (7 children)
That sort of stuff did not happen until power was firmly established and consolidated. Learn from things like the Night of the Long Knives [wikipedia.org]. When Hitler was coming to power he relied extensively on a sort of paramilitary unit that ran around in brown shirts working to intimidate rival politicians, prevent them from speaking, disrupt organizing, and so forth. This group obviously felt they had significant sway with the Nazi party since they were a major component of their rise to power. The first thing Hitler did after gaining power was to engage in a mass assassination of the brownshirt's leaders.
Similar events took place in various communist revolutions as well. Because the governments knew that once the people that put them in power had realized what they had done, they would inevitably become some of the first people to now be out on the streets protesting and agitating against the forces they had just empowered.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @03:28PM (6 children)
Ah, so the brown shirts were originally misunderstood populist heroes? You have an ummmm...interesting...view of history.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @03:58PM (4 children)
Isn't it just?
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @05:58PM
A wise man seeks to have his views and values challenged.
A fool seeks to have his views and values affirmed.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Eratosthenes on Friday July 16 2021, @10:34PM (2 children)
Americans, in my experience, have no view of history. Also Geographically challenged, not sure where they are, or why. Rioters were Trump's Brown Shirts, or Moussie's Black Shirts, or Britain's Black and Tans, or Duvalier's "Tonton Macoute". Paramilitiary militias of seriously stupid and gullible people who get used by evil for its ends, and then discarded.
Ἀριθμητικὴ εἰσαγωγή
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @03:14PM (1 child)
So the brown shirts, black shirts, and so on were all just guys that spontaneously rose up, protested for a day of their own accord, and that was that.
..... I can see why one of the trademark features of "Progressive" ideology is to try to destroy the past. Quite inconvenient isn't it?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @10:24AM
DOJ releases Capitol riot videos from major conspiracy case involving the Proud Boys [cnn.com]
Yeah! I was a totally spontaneous attempt to overthrow the Constitution of the United States of America, what with all the tactical gear, chemical weapons, communications hardware, and firearms waiting for when the shit got real! Oaf Keeblers are going to go down hard for this, "One-eyed" Rhodes may have to shoot his other eye out. Prong Boys will have to move to Canada, with Gavin McInnes when he gets expelled. And the QAnon will have to trust the plan, that they never knew about before the totally unforeseen attempt to take over America. No, the Brown shirts, the Black Shirts, and Trump's Brown Pantsers all were organized instruments of violence.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 16 2021, @07:58PM
I think the logic goes something like "one baddie turned on the other baddie, so the other baddie couldn't have been a baddie in the first place."
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].