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The FBI recovered a document describing a foreign government’s nuclear capabilities during its search of Mar-a-Lago, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday.
The Post, citing unnamed sources, did not identify the foreign government named in the document describing the country’s military defenses.
The content of the more than 11,000 government documents and photographs FBI agents recovered from Donald Trump’s Florida estate last month has not been revealed, but previous reporting from the Post indicated classified documents about nuclear weapons were among the items federal authorities were looking for.
As of now we've got the word of a few unnamed sources so a little grain of salt is likely warranted but c'mon, man, we all know it's true!
FBI found document on foreign nuclear defenses at Mar-a-Lago – report
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2022, @07:18PM (22 children)
Ok, you got your evidence, where's the arrest warrant??
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 08 2022, @07:53PM (9 children)
Delayed by a corrupt and incompetent Trump-appointed judge's complete fabrication of executive privilege for a loser who is not in the executive branch anymore AGAINST the current Executive Branch of the United States.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 08 2022, @08:05PM (7 children)
A decision the Department of Justice has now appealed:
DOJ appeals decision to appoint special master in Trump FBI raid document case [cnbc.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2022, @08:20PM (6 children)
That's not an arrest warrant. They can do like they do to the rest of us. Take him in, THEN let the courts sort it out. Your DOJ treads much too lightly
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2022, @08:35PM (4 children)
Makes sense though, Trump has the possible ability to call for political violence. Arresting him without a full trial would trigger all the assholes into murdering their neighbors or elected officials. You also cannot ignore the corrupt judges appointed by Trump, two of which are supreme court justices! Trump even gave the game away when the GOP threatened to turn on him but they need the judges. GOP bent the knee, with Ted Cruz giving the most spineless showing.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @03:34AM (3 children)
Trump will call for political violence no matter what.
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @04:10PM (1 child)
Oh look, they've found even more:
U.S. reveals more classified records may be missing in Trump probe [reuters.com]
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @07:48PM
The sanctity of our legal system is intact and we can all rest well knowing the investigation is being done by a completely non-partisan entity.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @04:19PM
Very much lock him up, just gotta address the rightwing bullshit of whining about political witch hunts while also trying to pretend that the traitor not being in jail right now somehow proves some conspiracy. The conspiracy is obvious, GOP cheats and lies to get Trump elected so he can vastly increase the swamp by adding hundreds of corrupt federal judges, so Trump was understandably pissed when the cheating failed. Nothing motivates Americans quite like throwing out Nazis.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by cmdrklarg on Friday September 09 2022, @04:52PM
Patience. They're going to dot their 'i's and cross their 't's while getting their ducks in a row. Throwing Florida Man into the jail he deserves requires getting it right the first time.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2022, @08:28PM
Exactly. I wondered why MAGAs remained so obstinate, and it is because they have a few more tricks to try. This is one, same excuse as before with executive privilege. Now liberals are being criticized because the justice system is being extra careful and following rules. How else would this judge's bs decision have consequence? The deep state was Trump the whole time! Gaslight, obstruct, project; not just a meme apparently.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @02:31AM (3 children)
Just like the police do with everyone else, they are waiting to get an arrest warrant until they convene a grand jury or file a complaint. And because of Trump's political and organizational power they are waiting to convene a grand jury or file a complaint until one of two things occurs: they have overwhelming evidence or they have identified and searched the entire criminal organization to the furthest extent they believe possible. To do it any earlier is just stupid because three key things happen as soon as they arrest Trump: the clock starts ticking on the speedy trial (which drastically reduces the time to collect additional evidence), Trump can challenge the probable cause of his arrest (resulting in even more disclosure of the evidence, which is a dumb thing to do if you are still trying to figure things out), and signals to others involved just how far things have gone (resulting in attempted absconsion and destruction of evidence). In addition to that concern, the government is very aware of the repercussions of this arrest in particular, including the procedural/political optics, the erratic behavior of the defendant, and the potential of violence from Trump supporters.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @04:13PM (2 children)
This special master nonsense they've injected into the process has one single purpose: DELAY
Then they point to the delay like it's evidence of innocence.
The problem for them is that just slows down the releases to a constant trickle and we saw that worked against Clinton even though she actually was innocent. So I'm not sure it's the BEST strategy but it may be better than hurrying up and going to jail.
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @05:21PM
Haha, the Iron Lady wins again!
Judge throws out Trump's lawsuit against Hillary Clinton [axios.com]
(Score: 4, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @07:52PM
Right right, 'cause 8 YEARS without an indictment means you are guilty while 8 weeks without an indictment means you are innocent!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @04:30PM (7 children)
According to Q Clinton was supposed to be arrested back in 2016.
Where's her arrest warrant?
Or, are you willing to concede she was innocent yet?
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @07:34PM (6 children)
No, why should I? She's untouchable too, more so than Trump, they are together as one. None of these people are "innocent". This is the trap the DOJ has to avoid, and why the light touch on Trump. His only crime that separates him from the rest is lack of style and grace. And all the secrecy precludes any honest judgement and reporting on the matter. If we don't demand transparency the whole thing is suspect, just partisan bullshit.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @07:35PM (5 children)
So the absence of an indictment for 8 years means nothing but the absence of an indictment for 8 weeks means everything.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @07:46PM (4 children)
*sigh* Another strawman/diversion.. so typical... the absence of an indictment only signifies the absence of admissible evidence and/or prosecutorial discretion not to prosecute, You cannot determine innocence or guilt until the case has been brought to trial.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @07:49PM (2 children)
Or, 8 weeks is not a long time to the legal system and building an airtight case falls somewhere in the range of 8 weeks to 8 years to build....
But hey, ignore the simple hypothesis in favor of your incredibly complicated one....
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @08:17PM (1 child)
"8 weeks"? Please! They had almost two years... but don't let that stop you from making more excuses... that's what your party does best, you serve them well
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2022, @06:19AM
Flamebait
Go, democrats, go!!
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @07:55PM
Exactly wrong. Correct statement: "Only you, DeathMonkey, no-one else, can determine innocence or guilt until the case has been brought to trial."
(Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Friday September 09 2022, @02:47AM (10 children)
No we don't. I'm reminded of the hubbub surrounding police officer Brian Sicknick's death, which was advertised as being due to bludgeoning by a fire extinguisher. That story lasted until he was lying in state. Then the truth came out that he hadn't died from physical violence. We can get even older examples. For example, the "Dubya" Bush administration leaked so many lies that way. You could gauge the relative truthfulness of a statement by whether they were willing to state it publicly.
And there's a big reason why this happens: an unnamed source can't be blamed when the lie falls apart. There's no risk of accountability.
(Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @03:42PM (9 children)
The people who assaulted Sicknick have been convicted of assault and are sitting in jail right now.
Just because he died of a stroke afterward doesn't mean they didn't bludgeon him.
Also, I'm sure it's completely impossible that a beating could loosen up a blood clot...
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @09:30PM (8 children)
For the record, most patients I see with TCVI end up having a TIA sequela and a significant percentage have full-blown strokes. TBIs in general have to be watched carefully for sequelae such as strokes and aneurysm. In addition, the CSR itself would have exacerbated cardiovascular issues. The fact that they are now trying to pretend like this is some new and made up phenomenon to deflect blame just reeks of desperation to me.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by khallow on Saturday September 10 2022, @02:26AM (7 children)
And then explain what you're really saying. The huge problem with this narrative BTW is that while Sicknick was assaulted, he wasn't bludgeoned [cnn.com].
No blunt force trauma - no traumatic brain injury (that "TBI"). Alternate explanations quickly run into legal obstacles to any sort of murder charge - such as the mere stress of being a police officer in a mass protest could have been enough to do Sicknick in with that acronym soup. If you can't prove that a given action contributed, then you're stuck.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 10 2022, @02:56AM (6 children)
Who should we believe? The guy on the internet that still doesn't know what CSR stands for despite attempting to look it up or the real experts that talked to CNN? [cnn.com] and the autopsy doctor who said "all that transpired played a role in his condition” instead? Even without TBI (which I hadn't heard until your article, BTW), there is plenty there to say what he went through probably hastened his death. Without the autopsy report and due to the complexity of the human organism, it probably won't ever get to beyond a reasonable doubt to prove two people in particular cause his death. But you have to be completely daft to act as though it had nothing to do with it.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 10 2022, @03:14AM (4 children)
Obviously not you since you choose not to illuminate this thread in any way, including what CSR allegedly means.
Without evidence of blunt force trauma what do you really have? Incidentally, looks like the prosecutors agreed with me. After all, the charge was assault - which doesn't even mean potentially lethal assault - not some variation of murder or homicide.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 10 2022, @04:24AM (3 children)
Neither of which disagree with anything I said.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 10 2022, @10:49AM (2 children)
Think about why that happened. The fire extinguisher assault story was pushed pretty hard. The retraction wasn't. You're a living example of why this one weird propaganda trick works so well and I bet you're far from the only one.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 11 2022, @08:22AM (1 child)
Well, certainly not khallow, right-wingman extrodinaire! He as TBI, Traumatic Brain Inadequacy. His brain was left in a truck, so it was obviously rebutted, and not an insurgency at all. Obvious butthole. Carry on, our dear and spongy khallow. We will hear echoes of your white supremacist sympathy in our dreams.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2022, @06:34AM
Say goodnight, ari!
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday September 12 2022, @01:36PM
Personally, I put more blame on the police department and/or himself. Sure, "don't blame the victim". Except sometimes, one should really know when to quit. In the event that you have a serious health condition. Perhaps, you should take your own health more seriously. Which could possibly lead to oneself, changing jobs, moving to a different city, or even different part of the country. Some health conditions benefit greatly from changes in locale or literally just changing to a job that is much less stressful.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @03:09AM (17 children)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @04:21PM (1 child)
When it is officially announced I expect a lengthy journal detailing how you were wrong and how bad you feel for defending a traitor.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @05:46PM
I love the concept that he stole a bunch a bunch of top secret documents but totally NOT the nuke stuff! Like he had someone actually sorting the crap he was absconding with!
(Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @05:12PM (14 children)
Triggered by primary source citations!
Quick, get over to a Runaway thread where everything is six op-eds deep!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @05:35PM (1 child)
Seriously, the "TruthaboutDumbs" is not a reliable source, for anything.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 09 2022, @05:44PM
Is that what we are calling Runaway journals now?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @05:48PM (11 children)
Personally it is funny as shit how Runaway1956 has started banning ACs in his journal. Free speech, facts don't care about your feelings, Mr. Toughguy that will shoot any feds that try and arrest them is just too sensitive about ACs calling out his lies :^/
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @07:50PM (8 children)
Yeah, being an AC I too noticed that the little runaway's journal is now cordoned off as his personal "safe space". Poor little runaway! He seems to imagine that sticking his fingers in his ears will make all those contrary opinions on his shitty views magically go away.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2022, @11:06PM (7 children)
Well yes but it seems that the Aristarchus Collective is still only allowed to post in freeze peach zones like this journal.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 10 2022, @12:00AM (6 children)
So all those new accounts are Runaway1956 trying to make aristarchus look even worse? Not a far out theory, not like they have any integrity to worry about.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 10 2022, @12:44AM
Plausible. Runaway does love him some sockpuppets. But would the janrinok allow such shenanigans and malarky?
In the mean time, Runaway has been forced to stop using racial slurs. Effectively, he has censored all ACs, and now has been cancelled.
(Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Sunday September 11 2022, @12:42PM (4 children)
I wonder why he is using ari's email addresses to create all these false accounts? He couldn't activate the accounts you think he is creating if that was actually the case. Or, perhaps there is another, more logical, explanation.....
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2022, @08:13AM (3 children)
Once again, janrinok breaches user confidentiality to fight back against the hordes of aristarchoi that infest his brain. If it were me, I would use an ari email if I were Runaway, for extra ammosexual juice. But seeing how only those with admin privileges, and the sacred trust that implies, have access to such information, the whole question is moot. Or, it was.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday September 12 2022, @08:42AM (2 children)
In what way? I know who is creating those accounts. You know who is creating those accounts. And both of us know it wasn't Runaway. How would Runaway know your email addresses? We don't publish them. So unless you have told him, you are clearly lying.
Now, what confidential information have I given out? I haven't divulged who is actually creating those accounts. I haven't divulged the email addresses. I haven't given away any personal details.
But I do know who is the only account to ever use this IP hash before. Only one account has ever used this hash to contact SN in over 8 years. There is no confusion, no collision of hash numbers - they were all logged in accesses. Now if you want to continue this charade I can reveal the account name - because it doesn't provide any personal information whatsoever. Anyone can look up all of the account names. In fact, you have openly used it on IRC and admitted that it is one of yours. You recently claimed that information that has been released by the individual concerned is NOT a compromise of personal data. How would you like to test your claim now? I have lots of account names that you personally have already compromised. By your logic they are all fair game.
You are struggling to justify why you continue to post on this site. Nobody cares. You are not important to its survival. You are not defending anyone's rights. You are simply a Troll.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2022, @05:27PM (1 child)
Janrinok doth protest too much! Who'd of thought the old man to have so much bile in him? Yes, it was all me, whoever I am. A troll, just trolling for a reaction. And evidently getting one.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 13 2022, @02:14PM
No winder janrinok is so confused, I'm not you so stop confusing the guy, getting older is hard enough!
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 11 2022, @08:51AM (1 child)
Runaway could limit comments to his journal entries to "friends", but he has no friends, other than Ethanol_fueled, who just popped into IRC to spew a bunch of Nazi anti-semitism that Runaway did not disagree with. No, by not allowing AC postings, Runaway is hiding under the skirts of janrinok, who has censored all the members who call out right-wing nutjobs like Runaway, and Eth, and VLM, and chromas. By dis-allowing ACs, Runaway is benefiting from the janrinok system-wide banning of true ACs, so that he can identify every comment on SN, and take actions to ban, discombuberate, or censor any given Soylentil.
Of course, the flaw in the plan is that there are plenty of reasonable logged-in Soylentils who will still call Runaway on his Trumpist racism and misogyny, and general assholerry, so he is still getting spanked hard in his own journal.
[I hear that someone is investigating the logs of the broadband provider in a certain part of Arkansas, to see exactly who got connected exactly yesterday. OpSecs, Runaways, you ain't got them.]
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday September 23 2022, @12:19AM
2 weeks late, almost, but I'm interested in this :) Details?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2022, @08:19AM
Seems like the Former Guy is going to DC. No one knows why, but there are some ideas. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-unannounced-trip-washington-dc/ [rawstory.com]
This is what real Republican power looks like, people!
Trump swallowed the "football"? Not surprised.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 03, @05:19AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/14/trump-motive-mar-a-lago-documents/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter [washingtonpost.com]
Investigators see ego, not money, as Trump’s motive on classified papers
Federal agents and prosecutors have come to believe former president Donald Trump’s motive for allegedly taking and keeping classified documents was largely his ego and a desire to hold on to the materials as trophies or mementos, according to people familiar with the matter.
As part of the investigation, federal authorities reviewed the classified documents that were recovered from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home and private club, looking to see if the types of information contained in them pointed to any kind of pattern or similarities, according to these people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
That review has not found any apparent business advantage to the types of classified information in Trump’s possession, these people said. FBI interviews with witnesses so far, they said, also do not point to any nefarious effort by Trump to leverage, sell or use the government secrets. Instead, the former president seemed motivated by a more basic desire not to give up what he believed was his property, these people said.