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Maine Crime Fell Following 2015 Repeal of Gun Control Law

When Maine began allowing eligible residents to carry concealed firearms without a government license in 2015, gun control advocates warned that Wild West-style gun violence would erupt across the state.

Instead, the opposite has happened.

In fact, property crime and violent crime have fallen in Maine since the 2015 reform, according to crime data tracked by the FBI.

The reform, introduced by State Sen. Eric Brakey (R-Auburn) and signed into law by Republican Gov. Paul LePage, ended a state-run gun control program that required individuals to obtain a permit before carrying a concealed firearm — effectively adopting a policy known informally as Constitutional Carry.

While rates of violent crime increased nationally from 2015 to 2020, the rate of violent crime in Maine fell steadily beginning in 2015, after a slight increase from 2014 to 2015, according to data collected by the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting Program.

Property crimes, such as robbery, larceny, and burglary, which had already been declining since 2012, continued to fall in line with the national trend. Property crime rates are now lower than at any time since 1985, when the FBI data begins.

Is the old adage — an armed society is a polite society — proven true by Maine’s experience?

The correlation between decreased gun control and decreased crime doesn’t mean expanded exercise of Second Amendment rights is responsible for the decline.

But it does suggest that repealing the concealed carry permitting law in 2015 did not coincide with any increases in violent crime, as many anti-gun critics predicted.

Despite what the evidence shows about violence, crime, and firearms use in Maine, some state lawmakers are nonetheless planning a new push for gun control legislation.

According to reporting in the Bangor paper, State Rep. Vicki Doudera (D-Camden) is part of a group of Democratic lawmakers looking to advance gun control bills in response to several hoax threats made against Maine schools.

It’s not clear how new gun control laws would prevent hoax threats made online or over the phone.

During her first term in office, Gov. Janet Mills, a Democrat, typically shied away from supporting gun control measures popular with the far left.

However, her calculus may change now that she’s not navigating Augusta politics with a view toward re-election to the Blaine House.

https://www.themainewire.com/2022/12/maine-crime-fell-following-2015-repeal-of-gun-control-law/

Alright, I can't say that crime fell because constitutional carry became the law. If you look closely, neither does the author make that claim.

What I can say, most definitively, is that the gun control crowd has it all wrong. They predicted that crime, gun crime, and so-called "gun deaths" would increase because of constitutional carry! Flat out wrong!

Where the author asks whether an armed society is a polite society, I will boldly state that to be a fact. Only idiots and crazies will act out in the presence of other people who are able and willing to deal with them. Even most of the idiots and crazies prefer to seek out unarmed sheep in "gun free" zones. They seldom walk into a police station, where almost everyone is armed, to start shooting random strangers.

I will also state that gun control laws actually create criminals. Many people over the past century have been convicted of violating some asinine law that doesn't even make sense, let alone pass constitutional examination. How about idiot concealed carry laws that say, if you purchase a brand new weapon, a box of ammo, throw them on the seat of your vehicle, and drive home, you're a criminal? No weapons, no ammo, within reach of persons in the vehicle is and/or was the law in many states.

Constitutional carry is the only way to go. If you're not a prohibited person, you have the right to carry concealed, open carry, or to stow your weapons any place you like, in any manner you like. If you're stupid enough to allow children to get to your weapons, and an accident happens, then you are liable under all manner of civil laws. But the state need not get involved.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Reziac on Tuesday January 03, @06:48PM (3 children)

    by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday January 03, @06:48PM (#1285011) Homepage

    My state went Constitutional carry, and we already had a stand-your-ground law (we have the right to defend all persons and property with reasonable force, anywhere, any time, and no duty to retreat). Wait, won't this lead to daily re-enactments of the Gunfight at the O.K Corral? Uh, no, in fact far as I know it's led to zero violent incidents.

    However, we have very little crime other than what's secondary to meth.

    Free sample! Don't they look like fine upstanding citizens?
    https://montana.arrests.org/index.php?county=919&page=1&results=56 [arrests.org]

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 03, @06:55PM (2 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 03, @06:55PM (#1285014) Homepage Journal

      I'm not 100% certain that all of those are primates . . .

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Reziac on Tuesday January 03, @08:32PM

        by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday January 03, @08:32PM (#1285034) Homepage

        I had a similar thought...

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      • (Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Thursday January 05, @02:23PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 05, @02:23PM (#1285273) Journal
        There's some wolverine or badger in there, but I'm pretty sure they're mostly primate.
  • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday January 06, @02:42AM (2 children)

    by krishnoid (1156) on Friday January 06, @02:42AM (#1285407)

    But it does make other deaths [pressherald.com] easier to come by. Which is very unfortunate along entirely separate lines.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 07, @02:17AM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 07, @02:17AM (#1285594) Homepage Journal

      Maine has a history of suicide. I can't recall the statistics, but suicide was a real concern when I lived there in the '80s. This article shows that the suicide rate was climbing, long before the current gun laws went into effect. https://www.mainepublic.org/maine/2018-06-08/cdc-report-maines-suicide-rate-has-climbed-more-than-27-percent [mainepublic.org] If there is any cause and effect between the law and suicide at all, it is probably statistically insignificant.

      Maine people are a bit insular, and a bit peculiar. I certainly didn't figure them out in two years. You can't blame isolation alone. A lot of people in the world are as isolated as Mainers, without the high suicide rates.

      All in all, it's less troublesome to clean up a suicide by firearm, than a suicide by automobile. The bits and pieces don't get strewn about as much.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08, @05:17AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08, @05:17AM (#1285788)

        All in all, it's less troublesome to clean up a suicide by firearm, than a suicide by automobile. The bits and pieces don't get strewn about as much.

        If it's just a desire to die there's usually less collateral damage too. I know a family without a dad because some idiot wanted to die because his girlfriend left him. Got out on the highway and deliberately head-onned into a truck at high speed. The truck caught fire, but was so smashed up they don't know if their dad burnt to death or was killed in the impact.

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